EF Rear foglight???
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EF Rear foglight???
For those of you have them how do u have them hooked up? Do u have them on a switch or do u have them hooked up straight? Do u have anyproblems gettin the car inspected either way?
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well by law in california like 85 or something and above have middle light and if you dont have it you can get pulled over and get a ticket...but I really not sure on the year they started to do it but its in the 80's
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yz125rider21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well by law in california like 85 or something and above have middle light and if you dont have it you can get pulled over and get a ticket...but I really not sure on the year they started to do it but its in the 80's</TD></TR></TABLE>
WTF??
It's a rear "fog" type light on the bumper, not the third brake light. And the year for that was 1986.
And yes, the alert light is to let faster drivers know that your fogs/high beams are on.
WTF??
It's a rear "fog" type light on the bumper, not the third brake light. And the year for that was 1986.
And yes, the alert light is to let faster drivers know that your fogs/high beams are on.
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Re: EF Rear foglight??? (nudvl)
i've got mine wired to its own switch. on a car with only one rear fog, it should be mounted on the driver's side of the car, in line with the driver's seat. the purpose of the light is not to tell other drivers the front fogs are on, but to make the car more visible from the rear in inclement weather. the original factory rear fog switch (no pics, sorry) is identical to the front fog switch, but with the usual "rear fog" stencil instead of the front - "light beams" on the stencil go straight out from the light, rather than downward as on the usual fog lamp switch.
here's the switches in a MINI:
front fog lamp is right of center, rear fog lamp is left of center (and switched on).
my front fog lamp (yes, there is only one, on purpose) is wired to a Honda OEM switch, but i've got my rear fog (non OEM, Hella surface mount) wired to a Hella flat illuminated toggle. not particularly attractive, but it's functional.
switch (on):
lamp (on):
here's the switches in a MINI:
front fog lamp is right of center, rear fog lamp is left of center (and switched on).
my front fog lamp (yes, there is only one, on purpose) is wired to a Honda OEM switch, but i've got my rear fog (non OEM, Hella surface mount) wired to a Hella flat illuminated toggle. not particularly attractive, but it's functional.
switch (on):
lamp (on):
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Re: EF Rear foglight??? (nudvl)
yeah i know that with cars like mercedes and such the rear fog light IS to stand out in bad weather. its used in europe and places with alot of snow and such. it helsp ALOT, saved a friends life...
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what jhota says is correct
its not to warn people about there headlights or anything.
its more of a safety standard as the light sits low enough below the fog as fog usually hovers over the ground and the rear "fog" light emits a solid red light allowing drivers from behind to be able to see the car up ahead..just like the front fogs they are aimed downwards to light the ground in front of you..
its not to warn people about there headlights or anything.
its more of a safety standard as the light sits low enough below the fog as fog usually hovers over the ground and the rear "fog" light emits a solid red light allowing drivers from behind to be able to see the car up ahead..just like the front fogs they are aimed downwards to light the ground in front of you..
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Re: EF Rear foglight??? (jhota)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jhota »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> the purpose of the light is not to tell other drivers the front fogs are on, but to make the car more visible from the rear in inclement weather.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is skewed information. Honda's design works like that. I know for a fact that the Audi TT European version has the "third" light on the car to let others know your highbeams are on. There are two kinds of these lights; the kind that are seperate from the rear tail lights and then the other which is in place of the second reverse light. In most cases the third seperate light is to alert the following driver of your presence. The light inplace of the reverse if for high beams. I have been to Europe several times and have found that the manufactures decide themselves how they want to use the third red light.
This is skewed information. Honda's design works like that. I know for a fact that the Audi TT European version has the "third" light on the car to let others know your highbeams are on. There are two kinds of these lights; the kind that are seperate from the rear tail lights and then the other which is in place of the second reverse light. In most cases the third seperate light is to alert the following driver of your presence. The light inplace of the reverse if for high beams. I have been to Europe several times and have found that the manufactures decide themselves how they want to use the third red light.
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ok cool. But I think we have gotten off subject a lil bit. How does honda have these "rear foglights" hooked up? When u turn on ur highbeams on do they go off, or do they stay on all the time when u turn ur lights on?
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if you look at the wiring schematics that I posted you can see
the fog light circuit can only be powered when the LOW beams are on. and since the fog light has a switch it is possible for them to be off or on when the low beams are on.
example.
1. Lights off - Fogs off
2. Low lights on- Fogs off
3. Low lights on - push button for fogs - Fogs On
4. switch up to High beams - fogs automatically turn off
5. switch back to low beams - fogs automatically back on
6. push button for fogs again and fogs off.
thats what it looks like from the schematics at least
the fog light circuit can only be powered when the LOW beams are on. and since the fog light has a switch it is possible for them to be off or on when the low beams are on.
example.
1. Lights off - Fogs off
2. Low lights on- Fogs off
3. Low lights on - push button for fogs - Fogs On
4. switch up to High beams - fogs automatically turn off
5. switch back to low beams - fogs automatically back on
6. push button for fogs again and fogs off.
thats what it looks like from the schematics at least
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Re: EF Rear foglight??? (drSquish)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drSquish »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
This is skewed information. Honda's design works like that. I know for a fact that the Audi TT European version has the "third" light on the car to let others know your highbeams are on. There are two kinds of these lights; the kind that are seperate from the rear tail lights and then the other which is in place of the second reverse light. In most cases the third seperate light is to alert the following driver of your presence. The light inplace of the reverse if for high beams. I have been to Europe several times and have found that the manufactures decide themselves how they want to use the third red light.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that's not a rear fog light. that's another lamp entirely - if it's a rear fog lamp, it's on its own switch, and it's used to make the car more visible.
every one of these cars (except for the green one in the immediate foreground) has rear fog lights. they all are on a separate switch. were they warning lights for the high beams, they would be wired to illuminate when the main beams were turned on. in fact, the manual for my Sovereign calls the rear fogs "Rear Fog Guard Lamps."
ECE Regulation 38 requires that vehicles be equipped with one or two red, manually switched, rear facing lights with an intensity of 150 to 300 candelas for use in conditions of poor visibility to enhance vehicle visibility. not to show the main beams are on.
you can look it all up here: http://www.unece.org/trans/main/wp29/wp29regs.html
the main beam warning light makes some sense though; primarily because all the asshats around here drive around at night with their rear fog lamps on. if it was wired to the mains, they at least wouldn't be able to turn that **** on without pissing off the folks in front as well.
This is skewed information. Honda's design works like that. I know for a fact that the Audi TT European version has the "third" light on the car to let others know your highbeams are on. There are two kinds of these lights; the kind that are seperate from the rear tail lights and then the other which is in place of the second reverse light. In most cases the third seperate light is to alert the following driver of your presence. The light inplace of the reverse if for high beams. I have been to Europe several times and have found that the manufactures decide themselves how they want to use the third red light.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that's not a rear fog light. that's another lamp entirely - if it's a rear fog lamp, it's on its own switch, and it's used to make the car more visible.
every one of these cars (except for the green one in the immediate foreground) has rear fog lights. they all are on a separate switch. were they warning lights for the high beams, they would be wired to illuminate when the main beams were turned on. in fact, the manual for my Sovereign calls the rear fogs "Rear Fog Guard Lamps."
ECE Regulation 38 requires that vehicles be equipped with one or two red, manually switched, rear facing lights with an intensity of 150 to 300 candelas for use in conditions of poor visibility to enhance vehicle visibility. not to show the main beams are on.
you can look it all up here: http://www.unece.org/trans/main/wp29/wp29regs.html
the main beam warning light makes some sense though; primarily because all the asshats around here drive around at night with their rear fog lamps on. if it was wired to the mains, they at least wouldn't be able to turn that **** on without pissing off the folks in front as well.
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