Falken Azenis RT-615
well im hoping to get enough money to buy some much needed tires for everyday driving and also to autox in. I'm looking at the Azenis RT-615's because i hear they are very very good and always see them at events. Cheapest i found the tires online were for $74 a tire and a total shipped of $324. I'm looking at 205/50R15...
I was just wondering if anyone knows anywhere else that will sell them cheaper shipped? I am tight on cash but still want good tires so any help or advice on maybe some different tires or w/e would be greatly appreciated.
here is the site for that price i found
http://www.vulcantire.com/azenis_rt615_t.htm
thanks
I was just wondering if anyone knows anywhere else that will sell them cheaper shipped? I am tight on cash but still want good tires so any help or advice on maybe some different tires or w/e would be greatly appreciated.
here is the site for that price i found
http://www.vulcantire.com/azenis_rt615_t.htm
thanks
When it comes to tires, cheap, and good is a hard to find combo. You will be very happy with the azenis, when the tread wears some, be sure to be careful in rain, and if you think you are gonna drive on snow with them, you got another thing coming 

You're probably not going to find them cheaper than Vulcan. At least your shipping charges aren't that much, since you're not too far from their warehouse in Scranton.
However, if you're really stretched for funds, one thing you need to be aware of is that the Falken Azenis RT-615 wears very rapidly. That means you're going to be replacing them fairly frequently (maybe every 10-12K miles) since you're using them for daily driving. As long as you're okay with that, by all means get them, since they're pretty much the stickiest street tire you can get (on dry pavement, anyway)! However, there are other tires you can get that will last a lot longer and cost less (and grip well in rain) - no, they won't grip as well as the Azenis, but you'll get at least three times as many miles to them before you have to replace them. In 205/50-15, for example, right now you can get the Kumho Ecsta SPT from the Tire Rack for $48/tire after rebate, and it offers a lot of performance for that low price - very good dry traction (not Azenis class, but still much better than most any other tire you can get for that price), outstanding wet traction (much better than the Azenis, Hankook, etc), and you should get 30-45K miles from them. Great "bang for the buck".
Again, I'm not knocking the Azenis, but since money is an issue, it's something to be aware of before you go out and buy them.
However, if you're really stretched for funds, one thing you need to be aware of is that the Falken Azenis RT-615 wears very rapidly. That means you're going to be replacing them fairly frequently (maybe every 10-12K miles) since you're using them for daily driving. As long as you're okay with that, by all means get them, since they're pretty much the stickiest street tire you can get (on dry pavement, anyway)! However, there are other tires you can get that will last a lot longer and cost less (and grip well in rain) - no, they won't grip as well as the Azenis, but you'll get at least three times as many miles to them before you have to replace them. In 205/50-15, for example, right now you can get the Kumho Ecsta SPT from the Tire Rack for $48/tire after rebate, and it offers a lot of performance for that low price - very good dry traction (not Azenis class, but still much better than most any other tire you can get for that price), outstanding wet traction (much better than the Azenis, Hankook, etc), and you should get 30-45K miles from them. Great "bang for the buck".
Again, I'm not knocking the Azenis, but since money is an issue, it's something to be aware of before you go out and buy them.
hmm the rain traction is kinda concerning me and i also want some decent tread wear..i wont be driving with these wheels/tires in the snow, ill be putting my steelies on for winter driving. Ill look more into the Kumho Ecsta series tires cuz i've heard their pretty decent for everyday/race use.
thanks for the help!
EDIT: which of the ecsta series tires would u recomend?
thanks for the help!
EDIT: which of the ecsta series tires would u recomend?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civexspeedy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ill look more into the Kumho Ecsta series tires cuz i've heard their pretty decent for everyday/race use.
thanks for the help!
EDIT: which of the ecsta series tires would u recomend?</TD></TR></TABLE>
As noted above, I was recommending the Kumho Ecsta SPT. The SPT is their "budget performance tire", designed for great bang for the buck, which is what you're looking for. Very good dry traction, outstanding wet traction, long treadlife, reasonable price.
Compared with the SPT, here are some other members of the Ecsta "family"...
Ecsta MX - Excellent dry traction, not-so-great wet traction, shorter treadlife than the SPT (figure 15-20K or so), higher price than the SPT - a very good performer on dry pavement but falls short in value
Ecsta Supra 712 - Performance a lot worse than the SPT, price about the same - not worth considering
Ecsta 711 - Performance pathetic, less expensive than the SPT - not worth considering
Ecsta ASX - All-season tire, performance in moderate to warm temperatures not as good as the summer tires listed above, worth considering only by those who have to use the same tires in snow the rest of the year (i.e. not worth considering by you, since you have steelies and winter tires)
Ecsta AST - All-season tire, performance worse than the ASX - not worth considering
thanks for the help!
EDIT: which of the ecsta series tires would u recomend?</TD></TR></TABLE>
As noted above, I was recommending the Kumho Ecsta SPT. The SPT is their "budget performance tire", designed for great bang for the buck, which is what you're looking for. Very good dry traction, outstanding wet traction, long treadlife, reasonable price.
Compared with the SPT, here are some other members of the Ecsta "family"...
Ecsta MX - Excellent dry traction, not-so-great wet traction, shorter treadlife than the SPT (figure 15-20K or so), higher price than the SPT - a very good performer on dry pavement but falls short in value
Ecsta Supra 712 - Performance a lot worse than the SPT, price about the same - not worth considering
Ecsta 711 - Performance pathetic, less expensive than the SPT - not worth considering
Ecsta ASX - All-season tire, performance in moderate to warm temperatures not as good as the summer tires listed above, worth considering only by those who have to use the same tires in snow the rest of the year (i.e. not worth considering by you, since you have steelies and winter tires)
Ecsta AST - All-season tire, performance worse than the ASX - not worth considering
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I always here people complain about Azenis in the rain. I haven't found them to be much different an other good dry weather tires. And if you are running any tire down on the wear bars (or close to) the traction is going to be reduced.
We run seperate set of full tread depth Azenis as our rain tires...
We run seperate set of full tread depth Azenis as our rain tires...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugenlude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I always here people complain about Azenis in the rain. I haven't found them to be much different an other good dry weather tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have. It's not surprising, when you look at the tread pattern and the void ratio; there aren't a lot of grooves to channel the water out away from under the tread, to avoid hydroplaning. It's also not surprising when you realize that the Azenis comes with only 8/32" tread depth when new, same as many R compound tires, unlike street tires which are usually in the 10-12 32nds range. (This means a brand new Azenis has the same tread depth as most street tires that are only at 60-75 percent.)
Still, at least the new Azenis RT-615 is better than the old Azenis RT-215 in this regard.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugenlude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you are running any tire down on the wear bars (or close to) the traction is going to be reduced.</TD></TR></TABLE>
tru dat
I have. It's not surprising, when you look at the tread pattern and the void ratio; there aren't a lot of grooves to channel the water out away from under the tread, to avoid hydroplaning. It's also not surprising when you realize that the Azenis comes with only 8/32" tread depth when new, same as many R compound tires, unlike street tires which are usually in the 10-12 32nds range. (This means a brand new Azenis has the same tread depth as most street tires that are only at 60-75 percent.)
Still, at least the new Azenis RT-615 is better than the old Azenis RT-215 in this regard.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugenlude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you are running any tire down on the wear bars (or close to) the traction is going to be reduced.</TD></TR></TABLE>
tru dat
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Still, at least the new Azenis RT-615 is better than the old Azenis RT-215 in this regard.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Definitely tru dat.
Old ones were MUCH worse than these in the rain; used to white knuckle drive with them in the rain. Was forced to use them one in the snow for a short drive - was more fun than Six Flags.
EDIT: I got mine from Vulcan as well; didn't find anyone cheaper.
Definitely tru dat.
Old ones were MUCH worse than these in the rain; used to white knuckle drive with them in the rain. Was forced to use them one in the snow for a short drive - was more fun than Six Flags.
EDIT: I got mine from Vulcan as well; didn't find anyone cheaper.
i think im gena go with the Kumho Ecsta SPT. cheaper than alot of the other high performance tires yet get great reviews and offer just the same amount of performance. also tire rack has that $40 rebate thing.
another question i had was if i would be able to fit 205/50R15 tires on my 95 civic coupe without rubbing or turning issues? the car is droped 1.5inches and i have 195/50R15 tires on right now with no rubbing issues what so ever. just wondering if i could fit wider tires on there..
thanks
Modified by civexspeedy at 1:41 PM 8/4/2006
another question i had was if i would be able to fit 205/50R15 tires on my 95 civic coupe without rubbing or turning issues? the car is droped 1.5inches and i have 195/50R15 tires on right now with no rubbing issues what so ever. just wondering if i could fit wider tires on there..
thanks
Modified by civexspeedy at 1:41 PM 8/4/2006
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civexspeedy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">another question i had was if i would be able to fit 205/50R15 tires on my 95 civic coupe without rubbing or turning issues? the car is droped 1.5inches and i have 195/50R15 tires on right now with no rubbing issues what so ever. just wondering if i could fit wider tires on there..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Since we're talking street tires for daily driving, stick with 195/50-15. I'm not sure about rubbing - it's very possible, especially on a lowered car. In addition, the 205/50-15 will make your car accelerate slower (like getting taller gears) and will make your speedometer and odometer inaccurate. The 195/50-15 tires are cheaper, too...
Modified by nsxtasy at 1:07 PM 8/4/2006
Since we're talking street tires for daily driving, stick with 195/50-15. I'm not sure about rubbing - it's very possible, especially on a lowered car. In addition, the 205/50-15 will make your car accelerate slower (like getting taller gears) and will make your speedometer and odometer inaccurate. The 195/50-15 tires are cheaper, too...
Modified by nsxtasy at 1:07 PM 8/4/2006
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ecsta MX - Excellent dry traction, not-so-great wet traction, shorter treadlife than the SPT (figure 15-20K or so), higher price than the SPT - a very good performer on dry pavement but falls short in value
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I priced them at ~$280-$285 shipped from tirerack with the $40 discount. Still cheaper than the Azenis but I never checked on the price for the SPT.
Ecsta MX - Excellent dry traction, not-so-great wet traction, shorter treadlife than the SPT (figure 15-20K or so), higher price than the SPT - a very good performer on dry pavement but falls short in value
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I priced them at ~$280-$285 shipped from tirerack with the $40 discount. Still cheaper than the Azenis but I never checked on the price for the SPT.
i got rt615's on my tc and the rain traction is way better then the gforce sports i had before then and the potenza re92's
but the tread is going fast as mutch as i drive to and from work i have been rotaiting these things weekly to try and keep the wear even
but the tread is going fast as mutch as i drive to and from work i have been rotaiting these things weekly to try and keep the wear even
Just remember to get them shaved if you plan on dry autocrossing. Otherwise your suspension will feel like rubber for your first few races.
I've run azenis RT-615's on the patriot course @ VIR in the snow, and was actually within 1s of some good drivers w/ 710's who had dry runs. I ran them full tread, of course. I think they do pretty well.
I've run azenis RT-615's on the patriot course @ VIR in the snow, and was actually within 1s of some good drivers w/ 710's who had dry runs. I ran them full tread, of course. I think they do pretty well.
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