ok heres his question. hes very limited on tires right now so just woundering what should he use right now for the track event

his car is a 93 240sx with a sr20det swap making around 220whp.

so..i have 4 15in wheels with 205/60 Yokohama AVS Intermediate... 2 17in wheels with 215/45 all season Bridgestones... and 2 16in with 225/55 Yokohama ES100
what would be the best combination? looking for neutral feel. really scared about spinning out.

also i have an uninstalled kaaz 2-way... should i install it..being that i already have a factory VLSD??

we all plan to go together all of us will be our first time road racing. any tips on what to do and basic things to prep the car?

btw heres a pic of his car

 

Nice looking car. There is a lot of information on here about what to do your first time out and how you should prep the car, so search around a little. Focus mainly on the brakes and tires (as far as the car is concerned). Go with the set of matching tires. The last thing you want to be doing at your first event is screwing around with different tire combinations. The intermediates will overheat and you won't have as much grip as with a summer tire, but at least it will be balanced. An all season tire would get shredded. Also, remember that you are not actually racing. You are doing a driving education event and you should treat it as such. Remember to relax and focus on improvement and having fun, not on getting ahead of the person in front of you. Drive within your own limits, which will be very low no matter how good of a driver you are on the street.

Edit - I forgot to address the LSD. Viscous LSDs aren't typically used in road racing because the fluid gets too hot and does not function properly. However, you're not racing, so don't worry about it. Just go out and have fun and learn some things. The only things you should be thinking about for the car are safety and reliability.

- Scott

 

^^^ yup.

just go out there and have some fun. your first priority would be to run a good brake fluid (motul rbf600 or ate superblue) and a decent brake pad. also i'd make sure the turbo is plumbed really well and won't spring any oil leaks on track.

otherwise, get out there and remember to try to keep LEARNING all day. you can't win at an hpde (which is what you're going to). well you can win, by becoming a safer, better driver and courteous neighbor on track.

have fun!

 

Exactly what others said.

Tell your friend to try not to be too nervous; there will be instructors at the event to help him. At this point he needs to focus on learning the proper racing lines. Have fun!!!

 

I am building a ITS 240sx. The very first thing you need to take off of that car is the rear sway bar. These cars are stupid in the rear and the sway bar does not help.
Your friend will have to stop all of the show items after this DE. He will be hooked and will cuting every thing out to make Min weight and safety regs.
Have fun guys and let us know how much you enjoyed it.
Carver

 

With that huge hole in the front end make sure that bumper and hood are solid that is a rather large amount of drag and pressure..

 

your gonna fit right in with that car

 

thanks for the input everyone. one more question
i have a eg with type r 5 lug. i have axxis untimates front and rear pads. will they be ok or i should upgrade?

 

The ultimates will be fine. You can run street pads, just expect some fade. The ultimates are pretty good for a street pad, from what I've heard. If you start to feel like the car is getting harder to stop, just start braking earlier. If it feels unsafe, bring the car in and let it cool off a while.

 

I had ultimates last track event I went to...you won't have a problem with fading as long as you don't dive in too deep...i was only using about 90% of my braking that day and they never faded...there's just really no need to push your car really really hard since you can't win anything imo

They WILL fade if pushed hard though...they even fade at autocrosses...but I drive a 3000lb car so you'll probably have better results.

 

This topic has some great advice for track newbies.

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The Yokohama AVS Intermediate is a summer tire. However, it's a very old summer tire; they haven't sold those in quite some time. You'd better check how old they are (click here to find out how), and if they're as old as I think they might be - early 1990s, maybe even older - I wouldn't use them on the track. (Although I agree with the advice on matching tires - you might be better off buying a new set of tires, or at least a new pair, then using a pair of decent summer tires like the ES100 with a pair of crappy all-seasons.)

 

just curious which event where and when?

 

we taking a drive up to canada. we rented the track for a day

 

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Oh no ... please tell me you're bringing a certified instructor or someone else who can effectively articulate the finer points of road track driving. There is a very good reason that most orgs require an instructor to ride with a first time driver for the first few sessions. Road tracks are dangerous if you don't know what you're doing and things can go very wrong very quickly if you don't have someone showing you how to approach the limits gradually.

 

there will be instructors there. i think my friends dad is also coming so he will be giving some pointers also.

 

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In addition to the safety factor mentioned here, the other problem with novices driving without instruction is that they will learn bad habits and techniques that will be MUCH harder to undo later on...

 

Well I'm also a newbie on the track, so far I can tell you this - concentrate on your line and braking. Stepping on the go paddle is easy, stopping paddle takes a lot of pratice to get it right. GO AS FAST AS YOU, NOT YOUR CAR, CAN.

 

I suggest getting 16x8 wheels with 225 45 series tires. something with 200 tread wear. advan a032r, falken rt615, etc.

the 2way lsd will make you oversteer easily.
1.5way is more for road racing. 2way is for drifting.
vlsd works best when going straight.
you can adjust the torque bais on that 2way lsd to act as a 1.5way.

maybe do some suspension tweeks too. camber and toe. damping adjustments is good.

 

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The Yokohama A032R is an R compound track tire. Its treadwear rating is 60.

The Falken RT-615 is a very sticky street tire. Its treadwear rating is 200 but it wears about twice as fast as most other 200 rated tires.

Both are great for the track. Neither one is a good choice if treadwear is important to you.