ALL MTR EM1 -----> SCAMMER!!!!
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ALL MTR EM1 -----> SCAMMER!!!!
So here's the story, I noticed he had a set of "CTR" cams for sale barely used and I've been looking for a new or like-new exhaust cam to go with my intake cam. So I asked him if he'd be willing to seperate it and just sell me the ex. cam. i asked for pics of the distributer side end, but all he would send me were shitty cell phone pics. I should've known somethng was up, but he answered my questions and assured me they were ctr & in like new condition. Since I'm getting ready to put my head back together, I figured I'd just go for it. Paid $150 for the cam 07/13 and didn't recieve until 07/27, but didn't really mind because he kept me informed. However, when I opened the box I knew something was wrong.
Looks like a stock b16 ex. cam to me!!! I contacted him immediately and he just replied "all sales final, you got pics & you said ok" and gave me this bullshit story, like it was my fault. He refused to give me a refund when I offered to ship it back. Here's the pics, if you think he should refund me my money, PM him and tell him what you think of scammers. If anyone in CT knows him, give him a kick in the nuts for me & tell him to be a man and refund me my god damn money.
The shittiest part of this whole thing is that he gave me this sob story "oh, I have parts on my credit card I have to pay for, that's why I'm selling them" So, because I've been in that situation, I thought I was helping out a fellow h-t member pay back some parts and I end up getting fucked over. Karma's a bitch man, you'll get yours!!
ALL MTR EM1, YOU KNOW YOU SCAMMED ME, DEAL WITH THIS LIkE A MAN AND REFUND ME MY MONEY FOR YOUR ******* STOCK B16 EX. CAM!!
Pics:
His shitty cell phone pics:
Distributer side of cam recieved:
comparison to my friend's CTR Ex. cam (notice the HUGE difference in cam profile???):
CTR ex cam on left, shitty stock b16 ex cam on right
CTR on top, **** cam on bottom
Cam he sent me:
Friends VERIFIED CTR Ex. Cam:
And for anyone who doesn't know, the infamous cam guide:
Looks like a stock b16 ex. cam to me!!! I contacted him immediately and he just replied "all sales final, you got pics & you said ok" and gave me this bullshit story, like it was my fault. He refused to give me a refund when I offered to ship it back. Here's the pics, if you think he should refund me my money, PM him and tell him what you think of scammers. If anyone in CT knows him, give him a kick in the nuts for me & tell him to be a man and refund me my god damn money.
The shittiest part of this whole thing is that he gave me this sob story "oh, I have parts on my credit card I have to pay for, that's why I'm selling them" So, because I've been in that situation, I thought I was helping out a fellow h-t member pay back some parts and I end up getting fucked over. Karma's a bitch man, you'll get yours!!
ALL MTR EM1, YOU KNOW YOU SCAMMED ME, DEAL WITH THIS LIkE A MAN AND REFUND ME MY MONEY FOR YOUR ******* STOCK B16 EX. CAM!!
Pics:
His shitty cell phone pics:
Distributer side of cam recieved:
comparison to my friend's CTR Ex. cam (notice the HUGE difference in cam profile???):
CTR ex cam on left, shitty stock b16 ex cam on right
CTR on top, **** cam on bottom
Cam he sent me:
Friends VERIFIED CTR Ex. Cam:
And for anyone who doesn't know, the infamous cam guide:
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Re: ALL MTR EM1 -----> SCAMMER!!!! (The Tech-1)
This guy still refuses to give me a refund even with all this proof. Also, because this wasn't an ebay transaction and I got SOMETHING from him, paypal won't investigate a claim. So basically, he could've sent me a tree branch in the mail and paypal will do nothing about it (just a warning to everyone out there about aypal).
SO, if you read this & agree with my side of the story, send ALL MTR EM1 a text saying this is bullshit & he should give me a refund. Thanks all for the support
SO, if you read this & agree with my side of the story, send ALL MTR EM1 a text saying this is bullshit & he should give me a refund. Thanks all for the support
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(7:33 AM 8/7/2006) all mtr em1: Not possible after this....
http://hondamarketplace.com/zerothread?id=1707880
I told you I bought those Cams from H-T from a member who claimed he was a rep from HMotorsOnline.com , Now if you got scammed then so did I but, I DID SHOW YOU MANY PICS AND ESPECIALLY THE ONES OF THE DIZZY SIDE!!! You then stated "Yea It's kinda hard to see but Ill take your word for it." "I'll Take them."
I have it ALL SAVED!
You knew what you were buying and now you dont want them, thats now my problem.
http://hondamarketplace.com/zerothread?id=1707880
I told you I bought those Cams from H-T from a member who claimed he was a rep from HMotorsOnline.com , Now if you got scammed then so did I but, I DID SHOW YOU MANY PICS AND ESPECIALLY THE ONES OF THE DIZZY SIDE!!! You then stated "Yea It's kinda hard to see but Ill take your word for it." "I'll Take them."
I have it ALL SAVED!
You knew what you were buying and now you dont want them, thats now my problem.
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"Ill take your word for it"
That right there is where I told you the pic of the dizzy side was blurry & I couldn't tell ****, but I TRUSTED they were what you said they were. I THOUGHT I was buying a TR ex. cam, you sent me a stock b16 ex. cam.
REGARDLESS of what you "thought" it was, it is nothing but a stock b16 cam and is DEFINITELY not worth $150. I didn't know what I was buying, I trusted that it was a CTR as YOU TOLD ME, and YES it IS your problem.
Think of it this way, you've got some crower cams, right? What if the guy you bought them from told you over & over they were crowers, then when you got them they were stock cams, but the guy you bought them from said "well, I bought them as crowers, so it's not my problem". You're telling me you'd just say "oh well, guess that's my problem"?
HELL NO, you would be pissed, as I am now.
Hey how about this: I have a ford escort that the guy I bought it from SWEARS it's a Ferrari, how about I sell it to you for $180,000? Good deal, huh?
I will continue to PM you about this until I get a refund, if anyone here agrees with my side of the story, pm ALL MTR EM1 to give me my goddamn money back. F scammers!
That right there is where I told you the pic of the dizzy side was blurry & I couldn't tell ****, but I TRUSTED they were what you said they were. I THOUGHT I was buying a TR ex. cam, you sent me a stock b16 ex. cam.
REGARDLESS of what you "thought" it was, it is nothing but a stock b16 cam and is DEFINITELY not worth $150. I didn't know what I was buying, I trusted that it was a CTR as YOU TOLD ME, and YES it IS your problem.
Think of it this way, you've got some crower cams, right? What if the guy you bought them from told you over & over they were crowers, then when you got them they were stock cams, but the guy you bought them from said "well, I bought them as crowers, so it's not my problem". You're telling me you'd just say "oh well, guess that's my problem"?
HELL NO, you would be pissed, as I am now.
Hey how about this: I have a ford escort that the guy I bought it from SWEARS it's a Ferrari, how about I sell it to you for $180,000? Good deal, huh?
I will continue to PM you about this until I get a refund, if anyone here agrees with my side of the story, pm ALL MTR EM1 to give me my goddamn money back. F scammers!
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Re: (all mtr em1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all mtr em1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just read the dispute man....</TD></TR></TABLE>
expletive that....own up to the fact that the item is not as described and just refund the mans money..... its really not that hard.
expletive that....own up to the fact that the item is not as described and just refund the mans money..... its really not that hard.
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so i guess we all know your word means absolutely ****...i hope you get banned...it is a seller's responsibility to know what they are selling to the public...if it was not the item that was advertised then the seller NEEDS to refund in full...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nfn15037 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Another scammer from CT...shocking.
Refund the money, douche.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lol.... I must of got lucky, scored a brand new Precision 750hp Intercooler for $410 from CT
Refund the money, douche.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lol.... I must of got lucky, scored a brand new Precision 750hp Intercooler for $410 from CT
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jvtec95 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BUMP, so no one else gets scammed by this guy!!
If you read this, let him know what you think of scammers.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Like I said AGAIN AND AGAIN, I bought these cams from a "so called" HMotorsOnline.com Rep. So to the best of my knowledge they ARE REAL. how DO I KNOW YOUR NOT SENDING ME BACK B16 CAMNS AND KEEPING MY CAMS's!
I showed you ALL the asked for for, especially the dizzy side, You agreed, simple as that, That not a SCAM in my EYES OR I am sure sand if you were skeptical about it you shouldn't have even bid end of story.
If you read this, let him know what you think of scammers.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Like I said AGAIN AND AGAIN, I bought these cams from a "so called" HMotorsOnline.com Rep. So to the best of my knowledge they ARE REAL. how DO I KNOW YOUR NOT SENDING ME BACK B16 CAMNS AND KEEPING MY CAMS's!
I showed you ALL the asked for for, especially the dizzy side, You agreed, simple as that, That not a SCAM in my EYES OR I am sure sand if you were skeptical about it you shouldn't have even bid end of story.
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Re: (all mtr em1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all mtr em1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Like I said AGAIN AND AGAIN, I bought these cams from a "so called" HMotorsOnline.com Rep. So to the best of my knowledge they ARE REAL. how DO I KNOW YOUR NOT SENDING ME BACK B16 CAMNS AND KEEPING MY CAMS's!
I showed you ALL the asked for for, especially the dizzy side, You agreed, simple as that, That not a SCAM in my EYES OR I am sure sand if you were skeptical about it you shouldn't have even bid end of story. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Dude your a joke, so basically you get screwed and you figure I am just going to screw someone else to make up for it.... let me ask you a ?, you have been a member for a little over 2 months, how did you manage to lose 5% worth of points already?????
Like I said AGAIN AND AGAIN, I bought these cams from a "so called" HMotorsOnline.com Rep. So to the best of my knowledge they ARE REAL. how DO I KNOW YOUR NOT SENDING ME BACK B16 CAMNS AND KEEPING MY CAMS's!
I showed you ALL the asked for for, especially the dizzy side, You agreed, simple as that, That not a SCAM in my EYES OR I am sure sand if you were skeptical about it you shouldn't have even bid end of story. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Dude your a joke, so basically you get screwed and you figure I am just going to screw someone else to make up for it.... let me ask you a ?, you have been a member for a little over 2 months, how did you manage to lose 5% worth of points already?????
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i love how he blames a trust worthy company like hmotorsonline.com for him getting the shaft on.. then he shafts someone else. HM dont scam people..guy. thats some ***** right there... your just some kid who know nothing about parts they are stealing or selling and rip people off.i ****** hate newbee seller and shady *******...
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Thank you, right on.
It's not even the $$, really, its the principle.
I will be filing a police report tomorrow and filing with an online fraud claim agency. I even offered to send him his cam back for half what I paid, just to get SOME of my money back. Hope you're happy with the results of your actions when you have collection agencies calling you.
As a side note, if I were you ALL MTR EM1, I wouldn't show your face around H-T again. I will MAKE SURE everyone knows what a scammer you are.
It's not even the $$, really, its the principle.
I will be filing a police report tomorrow and filing with an online fraud claim agency. I even offered to send him his cam back for half what I paid, just to get SOME of my money back. Hope you're happy with the results of your actions when you have collection agencies calling you.
As a side note, if I were you ALL MTR EM1, I wouldn't show your face around H-T again. I will MAKE SURE everyone knows what a scammer you are.
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Oh yeah, read this:
(2:33 PM 8/14/2006) all mtr em1: I bought them as ctr cams and sold them as ctr cams. I am a newb who knows noting about this spec thing or rings thing on the dizzy side all i know is i like Honda and the H-T Community. I am dealing with the same **** with the kid I Sold the OTHER CAM TOO. You think I wanted this?
So me and the other kid must've BOTH tried to switch cams on you!! What an amazing coincidence!!
Ignorance is NOT an excuse
If you're too stupid to know what you're selling DON'T sell it!
(2:33 PM 8/14/2006) all mtr em1: I bought them as ctr cams and sold them as ctr cams. I am a newb who knows noting about this spec thing or rings thing on the dizzy side all i know is i like Honda and the H-T Community. I am dealing with the same **** with the kid I Sold the OTHER CAM TOO. You think I wanted this?
So me and the other kid must've BOTH tried to switch cams on you!! What an amazing coincidence!!
Ignorance is NOT an excuse
If you're too stupid to know what you're selling DON'T sell it!
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