i got a 93 civic cx with rear drum brakes so i wanted rear disk brakes since i was planning to go autox later on. i went to this shop in san bruno and told the guy i wanted GSR brakes. he sold them to me for 350 front and rear and TOLD me that it was GSR brakes. then while we were installing it we found out that the ebrake cable were too short so we went back and he gaves us new cable and we AGAIN asked him if it was GSR brakes he said yea so ok all good right. ok it was all good for awhile UNTIL i decided that i needed new brake pads i went and order GSR brakes and THEY DIDN"T FIT! i went to this other shop and had them look at it, they then told me that they were 93 EX brakes !!!! i went back to the shop that sold me those brakes and he said OH they are the same.... and he refused to give me GSR brakes i was being all polite about it at first too.

alright so sorry about all the ramble but my question is, are the 93 ex rear disk brakes the same as the GSR? are the performance REALLY that different and even if i decided that i would just keep it is ex rear and front diskbrake worth 350?

thank u honda-tech and all those who will give me feed-back

 

i guess its both your faults for not knowing what you were buying/selling, instead you took the sellers word for it, which isn't always good.

i just swapped out my stock eg brakes and i can tell you that the fronts wouldn't fit a 13" rim, so that means the brakes are bigger.

the rears were drums converted to discs, so i dont know if its the same thing. i'd imagine it to be similar.

 

i knew that when i brought the brake swap so i also got new rims 15 in rota slipstreams. thats how i didn't know they were NOT gsr brakes.... hey everyone was a noob once

 

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take his *** to court!

 

i believe rotors are the same calipers are different.

 

thxz guys should i really make a hugh deal and take his *** to court? haha cuz i rather just get my gsr brakes or jsut swap calipers

 

they are pretty much the same, just slight differences. they both still accomplish the same thing. and your going to pay about the same for rear disc brakes from a civic as well.

 

i think the 93 ex rear disc is smaller then gsr, the only one that is exactly the same would be 94-95 civic ex-abs. you can contact your local parts and ask for brake pads and they have the same code i hope this help...and yes it sucks to be scammed, but be more careful bro.

 

'92-00 Civic / Del Sol Rules and Guidelines

Rear disc brakes do nothing for autocross except bump you into a more difficult class. Your best bet to be competitive with an EH2 would be to swap drums back on, swap in a DX drivetrain, and run FSP.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i went to this shop in san bruno and told the guy i wanted GSR brakes.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why did you specifically want "GSR" brakes? Do you realize that all '94-01 Integras (except for the Type-R) have the EXACT SAME BRAKES, regardless of trim level? RS, LS, SE, GS, GSR - they are all the same. In addition, the Civic '92-95 4dr EX, '94-95 2dr EX-ABS, '94-95 4dr LX-ABS, and '94 3dr Si-ABS all have the same brakes as '94-01 non-ITR Integras.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he sold them to me for 350 front and rear and TOLD me that it was GSR brakes.</TD></TR></TABLE>
$350 for the ubiquitous 9.5" rears and loaded knuckles that fit 10.3" fronts is not a bad deal.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok it was all good for awhile UNTIL i decided that i needed new brake pads i went and order GSR brakes and THEY DIDN"T FIT!</TD></TR></TABLE>
The front pads didn't fit, I assume (since all rear calipers for double-wishbone Civic/Integra/del Sol/CRX are the same except for the Type-R).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i went to this other shop and had them look at it, they then told me that they were 93 EX brakes !!!! i went back to the shop that sold me those brakes and he said OH they are the same....</TD></TR></TABLE>
For the fronts, the knuckles and rotors are the same; calipers are where they differ. The '92-95 4dr EX and the '94-95 2dr EX-ABS (along with the '94 3dr Si-ABS and the '94-95 4dr LX-ABS) came with the exact same calipers as Integras (17CL14VN). The '93-95 2dr EX (non-ABS) used a caliper with a slightly smaller piston (16CL14VN) - the other car that shared this front caliper was the '94-97 del Sol VTEC.

For the rears, all 9.5" disc setups are the same. No differences.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and he refused to give me GSR brakes i was being all polite about it at first too. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Should have gotten it in writing.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright so sorry about all the ramble but my question is, are the 93 ex rear disk brakes the same as the GSR?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Identical. No difference whatsoever.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are the performance REALLY that different</TD></TR></TABLE>
For the fronts, no, they aren't all that much better. If you want, you can pick up a pair of 17CL14VN front calipers - they will bolt right up to your EX knuckles, and effectively give you Integra brakes (minus the ABS system, the proper proportioning valve, and a larger master cylinder).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and even if i decided that i would just keep it is ex rear and front diskbrake worth 350?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would say so.


Modified by Targa250R at 6:47 PM 7/29/2006

 

damm i was also thinking of buying rear disk brake setup on line, but guy says there off of gsr99 but know pics. and them said to send check for 150.00. please . i am not going to get skamed......

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by streetracerjoey210 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damm i was also thinking of buying rear disk brake setup on line, but guy says there off of gsr99 but know pics. and them said to send check for 150.00. please . i am not going to get skamed......</TD></TR></TABLE>
Buy it locally.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by streetracerjoey210 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damm i was also thinking of buying rear disk brake setup on line, but guy says there off of gsr99 but know pics. and them said to send check for 150.00. please . i am not going to get skamed......</TD></TR></TABLE>Go to a junk yard a take it off yourself...That's the only way you know for sure, if you do it your self!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
For the rears, all 9.5" disc setups are the same. No differences.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This correct. The only differences are the ebrake cables, and 90-93 Integras have larger trailing arm bushings.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">'92-00 Civic / Del Sol Rules and Guidelines


Rear disc brakes do nothing for autocross except bump you into a more difficult class. Your best bet to be competitive with an EH2 would be to swap drums back on, swap in a DX drivetrain, and run FSP.


Why did you specifically want "GSR" brakes? Do you realize that all '94-01 Integras (except for the Type-R) have the EXACT SAME BRAKES, regardless of trim level? RS, LS, SE, GS, GSR - they are all the same. In addition, the Civic '92-95 4dr EX, '94-95 2dr EX-ABS, '94-95 4dr LX-ABS, and '94 3dr Si-ABS all have the same brakes as '94-01 non-ITR Integras.


$350 for the ubiquitous 9.5" rears and loaded knuckles that fit 10.3" fronts is not a bad deal.


The front pads didn't fit, I assume (since all rear calipers for double-wishbone Civic/Integra/del Sol/CRX are the same except for the Type-R).


For the fronts, the knuckles and rotors are the same; calipers are where they differ. The '92-95 4dr EX and the '94-95 2dr EX-ABS (along with the '94 3dr Si-ABS and the '94-95 4dr LX-ABS) came with the exact same calipers as Integras (17CL14VN). The '93-95 2dr EX (non-ABS) used a caliper with a slightly smaller piston (16CL14VN) - the other car that shared this front caliper was the '94-97 del Sol VTEC.

For the rears, all 9.5" disc setups are the same. No differences.


Should have gotten it in writing.


Identical. No difference whatsoever.


For the fronts, no, they aren't all that much better. If you want, you can pick up a pair of 17CL14VN front calipers - they will bolt right up to your EX knuckles, and effectively give you Integra brakes (minus the ABS system, the proper proportioning valve, and a larger master cylinder).


I would say so.


Modified by Targa250R at 6:47 PM 7/29/2006</TD></TR></TABLE> WORD this guy knows hit ****.

 

just a small question.....do any egs or eks besides Si's have rear disks from the factory? just wondering........ (cough)no(cough)

 

good info TARGA

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KP LQQKN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just a small question.....do any egs or eks besides Si's have rear disks from the factory? just wondering........ (cough)no(cough)</TD></TR></TABLE>

for 92-95 civics that question is answered 4 or 5 posts up actually.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KP LQQKN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just a small question.....do any egs or eks besides Si's have rear disks from the factory? just wondering........ (cough)no(cough)</TD></TR></TABLE>

92-95 Civic Si, 92-95 Civic EX ABS, 99-00 Civic Si, 93-97 Del Sol Si, 94-97 Del Sol VTEC.

 

that blows man

If it's any consolation (probably not) I got screwed out of a 500 dollar head unit and 4 speakers which is money I'll never see again and recently just got scammed on a new pair of taillights, go figure

 

I got scammed on $100 for an ITR radio, $430 for 2 CDM ITR clusters & an EL cluster, $111 for an EG6 cluster, $30 for a Spoon oil cap. Yes, never again will I buy from private buyers without paypal.

 

i got scammed about five years ago on a carbon fiber hood.

bastard people.

 

Paypal isn't going to help much. Just pay with a M/O so you have an address to show up at with a baseball bat. I did that once and got a cash refund. Worked out pretty well.

 

question again...if im using the same master cylinder/ brake booster from the stock eg, is it fine just using that or should i swap it out and use the integra master cylinder/ brake booster or the 93-95 2dr EX master cylinder/ brake booster?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG-tofu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">question again...if im using the same master cylinder/ brake booster from the stock eg, is it fine just using that or should i swap it out and use the integra master cylinder/ brake booster or the 93-95 2dr EX master cylinder/ brake booster?</TD></TR></TABLE>


When I did my drum to disc I used a new master cylinder off a teg n also changed out port valve also so that it brakes evenly. n I used brake lines from a SI to make em work so the lines are long enough.

oh btw sorry bout us loss.