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Just out of curiosity, is there anyone around here who regularily practices double clutching? i dont want to start no "fast and the furious" bullshit, just me and a buddy got into a discussion this weekend and i'd like to see who (if anyone) does it on a regular basis, as part of their driving style...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ***-assin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We have snycros well not the cable b16 drivers 
No need to double clutch.
</TD></TR></TABLE> My synchros are 17 years old, in synchro years that is ancient

No need to double clutch.
</TD></TR></TABLE> My synchros are 17 years old, in synchro years that is ancient
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> My synchros are 17 years old, in synchro years that is ancient
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agreed, i'm not even sure they're still very useful
</TD></TR></TABLE>agreed, i'm not even sure they're still very useful
did u notice on the movie the kid w/ the jetta, he looks under the hood of the eclispe and says it has a cold air intake, ha it has a turbo and an intercooler the coldair wont help plus u can see the filter by the raditor it not cold air. good movie tho.
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All modern street-car gearboxes have synchros. All of them. Even on 1st and reverse! Many transmissions have very badly worn synchros (gruunch!), but they are there...
I double-clutch most down-shifts. Heel-toe as well if I'm on the brakes at the time. It's become a habit for me--I started out doing it for my autoX car (practicing on the street what I needed on the track) and it has simply become a habit. Then again, my autoX car has notoriously fast-wearing synchros, so I need to give them all the help I can.
There is also some hope that double-clutching will extend the life of the synchros to be equal or longer than the life of the car...
--DD
I double-clutch most down-shifts. Heel-toe as well if I'm on the brakes at the time. It's become a habit for me--I started out doing it for my autoX car (practicing on the street what I needed on the track) and it has simply become a habit. Then again, my autoX car has notoriously fast-wearing synchros, so I need to give them all the help I can.
There is also some hope that double-clutching will extend the life of the synchros to be equal or longer than the life of the car...
--DD
ok. i just wanna clear something up. double clutching comes from truck drivers with transmissions that have more than 8 gears or so. ill explain
youre in a mac truck and you have no load. theres no need to start off in first and shift all the way to 10th gear hittign each gear. so.... you can
start off in second, immediately shifting to 5th. you do this by...
pushing in the clutch and pulling the shifter out of second and into nuetral. then, let the clutch out. then re-depress teh clutch pedal and shift the truck into 5th. then let the clutch back out again.
that is double clutching. pumping it a couplet imes to g et it in reverse isnt double clutching. downshifting isnt double clutching.
/thread. stop watching movies like that. and tell your friends they are rocking double digit intelligence quotients.
youre in a mac truck and you have no load. theres no need to start off in first and shift all the way to 10th gear hittign each gear. so.... you can
start off in second, immediately shifting to 5th. you do this by...
pushing in the clutch and pulling the shifter out of second and into nuetral. then, let the clutch out. then re-depress teh clutch pedal and shift the truck into 5th. then let the clutch back out again.
that is double clutching. pumping it a couplet imes to g et it in reverse isnt double clutching. downshifting isnt double clutching.
/thread. stop watching movies like that. and tell your friends they are rocking double digit intelligence quotients.
I do it when I am out on the road course. I do it every once in a while I do it on the street but typically I just shift. I learned to double clutch on all the old farm trucks and tractors.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Loserkidwac »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was pretty sure reverse dosn't have a syncro..atleast i wouldn't want one for reverse
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B series and D series don't have synchros on the reverse. NSX's do though. I saw one cracked open last weekend and was surprised to find out they had a synchro for reverse.
And double clutching isn't need on cars with synchros. When you downshift on the road course you are "rev matching" (or pick a term similar to that) but you are not double clutching. That is something that was done on old cars before synchros and I think in big rigs.
NOBODY with a Honda should be "double clutching."
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B series and D series don't have synchros on the reverse. NSX's do though. I saw one cracked open last weekend and was surprised to find out they had a synchro for reverse.
And double clutching isn't need on cars with synchros. When you downshift on the road course you are "rev matching" (or pick a term similar to that) but you are not double clutching. That is something that was done on old cars before synchros and I think in big rigs.
NOBODY with a Honda should be "double clutching."
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88 rex »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
B series and D series don't have synchros on the reverse. NSX's do though. I saw one cracked open last weekend and was surprised to find out they had a synchro for reverse.
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I though so...I didn't think you would want one so you didn't accidently slip into reverse...but i have heard about some higher end baller cars having them, exactly what i want on my $80K+ car, the ability to shift into reverse while doing 120mph
B series and D series don't have synchros on the reverse. NSX's do though. I saw one cracked open last weekend and was surprised to find out they had a synchro for reverse.
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I though so...I didn't think you would want one so you didn't accidently slip into reverse...but i have heard about some higher end baller cars having them, exactly what i want on my $80K+ car, the ability to shift into reverse while doing 120mph
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDEFTONESx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok. i just wanna clear something up. double clutching comes from truck drivers with transmissions that have more than 8 gears or so. ill explain
youre in a mac truck and you have no load. theres no need to start off in first and shift all the way to 10th gear hittign each gear. so.... you can
start off in second, immediately shifting to 5th. you do this by...
pushing in the clutch and pulling the shifter out of second and into nuetral. then, let the clutch out. then re-depress teh clutch pedal and shift the truck into 5th. then let the clutch back out again.
that is double clutching. pumping it a couplet imes to g et it in reverse isnt double clutching. downshifting isnt double clutching.
/thread. stop watching movies like that. and tell your friends they are rocking double digit intelligence quotients.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Finally someone who understand the difference between rev matching and double clutch..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88 rex »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
And double clutching isn't need on cars with synchros. When you downshift on the road course you are "rev matching" (or pick a term similar to that) but you are not double clutching. That is something that was done on old cars before synchros and I think in big rigs.
NOBODY with a Honda should be "double clutching."</TD></TR></TABLE>
Kudos to you too..
All you other ricers are just cracking me the hell up.
youre in a mac truck and you have no load. theres no need to start off in first and shift all the way to 10th gear hittign each gear. so.... you can
start off in second, immediately shifting to 5th. you do this by...
pushing in the clutch and pulling the shifter out of second and into nuetral. then, let the clutch out. then re-depress teh clutch pedal and shift the truck into 5th. then let the clutch back out again.
that is double clutching. pumping it a couplet imes to g et it in reverse isnt double clutching. downshifting isnt double clutching.
/thread. stop watching movies like that. and tell your friends they are rocking double digit intelligence quotients.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Finally someone who understand the difference between rev matching and double clutch..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88 rex »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
And double clutching isn't need on cars with synchros. When you downshift on the road course you are "rev matching" (or pick a term similar to that) but you are not double clutching. That is something that was done on old cars before synchros and I think in big rigs.
NOBODY with a Honda should be "double clutching."</TD></TR></TABLE>
Kudos to you too..
All you other ricers are just cracking me the hell up.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDEFTONESx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
pushing in the clutch and pulling the shifter out of second and into nuetral. then, let the clutch out. then re-depress teh clutch pedal and shift the truck into 5th. then let the clutch back out again.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That is exactly what I do on most downshifts, though I never downshift into 5th..
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I do it because I believe that it will extend the life of my synchros.
...And sorry about the mis-information on the Reverse synchros.
--DD
pushing in the clutch and pulling the shifter out of second and into nuetral. then, let the clutch out. then re-depress teh clutch pedal and shift the truck into 5th. then let the clutch back out again.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That is exactly what I do on most downshifts, though I never downshift into 5th..

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88 rex »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And double clutching isn't need on cars with synchros.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I do it because I believe that it will extend the life of my synchros.
...And sorry about the mis-information on the Reverse synchros.
--DD
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDEFTONESx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok. i just wanna clear something up. double clutching comes from truck drivers with transmissions that have more than 8 gears or so. ill explain
youre in a mac truck and you have no load. theres no need to start off in first and shift all the way to 10th gear hittign each gear. so.... you can
start off in second, immediately shifting to 5th. you do this by...
pushing in the clutch and pulling the shifter out of second and into nuetral. then, let the clutch out. then re-depress teh clutch pedal and shift the truck into 5th. then let the clutch back out again.
that is double clutching. pumping it a couplet imes to g et it in reverse isnt double clutching. downshifting isnt double clutching.
/thread. stop watching movies like that. and tell your friends they are rocking double digit intelligence quotients.</TD></TR></TABLE>
this is exactly right, i drive an eighteen wheeler everyday at work. Trust me, if you guys drove one too you would know rediculous it sounds when i hear these ricers talking about double-clutching. If you try to shift a truck like a car you will not be able to get it into gear at all without double-clutching, not even if you pulled on the shifter your hardest with both hands, it will not go into gear.
youre in a mac truck and you have no load. theres no need to start off in first and shift all the way to 10th gear hittign each gear. so.... you can
start off in second, immediately shifting to 5th. you do this by...
pushing in the clutch and pulling the shifter out of second and into nuetral. then, let the clutch out. then re-depress teh clutch pedal and shift the truck into 5th. then let the clutch back out again.
that is double clutching. pumping it a couplet imes to g et it in reverse isnt double clutching. downshifting isnt double clutching.
/thread. stop watching movies like that. and tell your friends they are rocking double digit intelligence quotients.</TD></TR></TABLE>
this is exactly right, i drive an eighteen wheeler everyday at work. Trust me, if you guys drove one too you would know rediculous it sounds when i hear these ricers talking about double-clutching. If you try to shift a truck like a car you will not be able to get it into gear at all without double-clutching, not even if you pulled on the shifter your hardest with both hands, it will not go into gear.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIred91 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Finally someone who understand the difference between rev matching and double clutch..</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you don't rev-match with the clutch pedal out, then your totaly wasting your time (since you won't be accelerating the main-shaft). It's still called double-clutching (or double-declutching in the UK). At least it is according to Bob Bondurant...
If you don't rev-match with the clutch pedal out, then your totaly wasting your time (since you won't be accelerating the main-shaft). It's still called double-clutching (or double-declutching in the UK). At least it is according to Bob Bondurant...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave_Darling »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That is exactly what I do on most downshifts, though I never downshift into 5th..
--DD</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do you have a tranny in your car with more than 5 forward gears? Call me crazy, but you would need to be in at least a 6th gear to "downshift" into 5th gear. Or did you mean "upshift?"
That is exactly what I do on most downshifts, though I never downshift into 5th..

--DD</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do you have a tranny in your car with more than 5 forward gears? Call me crazy, but you would need to be in at least a 6th gear to "downshift" into 5th gear. Or did you mean "upshift?"
double clutching is for old school hot rods too because some older transmissions don't have syncros. my red necked neighbor is all about domestics I let him drive my b16 hatch and tried to double clutch it. I waited till we pulled over and I double kicked his *** for grinding my gears!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EFMENOEFU »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">double clutching is for old school hot rods too because some older transmissions don't have syncros. my red necked neighbor is all about domestics I let him drive my b16 hatch and tried to double clutch it. I waited till we pulled over and I double kicked his *** for grinding my gears! </TD></TR></TABLE>
how is double clutching grind ur gears with synchros.. this makes easier for the gear to go in, thus making ur synchros last longer.
how is double clutching grind ur gears with synchros.. this makes easier for the gear to go in, thus making ur synchros last longer.
Okay, since some people seem to think that double-clutching is only for truck-drivers, lets talk about clutch-less shifting. Rev-matching, shifter lever preloading and smooth on/off throttle are all basic necessities. It sure makes a relatively boring trip to the store a hell of a lot more fun & exhilarating.






