hey lude owners. i have a DA, just bought the jdm h22a w/ the lsd tranny, then got the mounts and it's going in next week...just a quick question.

i know the jdm h22a comes with 220 hp, 161 tq.

i inspected the head yesterday, and the motor has Skunk 2 stg2 Camshafts, AEM Cam Gears, Crower Valve Springs and Retainers, AEM Pulleys, AEM Fuel Rail, AEM Fuel Pressure Regulater, RC 370 CC Injecters, chipped p28 ecu, DC-Sports 4-2-1 header, HKS 3" Header-back exhaust, custom intake.

i was thinking maybe 230 whp, 200 tq to the wheels? Is that too high???

opinions please...

 

might do if you put the dyno time in, someone spent all that money on head and valvetrain work and only managed a DC sports header? bit of a false economy

 

well if smsp made a header for an h22 i would spend a G and buy it, but whatever, it's not that big of a deal to me.

 

well for starters the jdm h22 only puts out 200hp and thats to the motor. so its maybe 160-180 to the wheels.

so I am thinking with the dc being the restriction you could maybe put out 200whp with the right tuning/ good tuner.

 

he does........

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and it comes with 200 bhp.


u wont know what it makes until you get on a dyno.....bench dynoing tends to get your hopes up and then you dont make the power you "figured" you would make

what are you planning to tune with?

 

A lil OT, If I were you I'd sell the tranny and mounts and look into this (if you haven't already).

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1638988

 

smsp do make a header for the H22, the only problem is its like $1200 which is about $1199 more than i can afford.

 

just letting you know similar preludes are barely getting 200 to the wheel with that setup

 

oh. the moderater on here (Aquafina) told me that smsp doesn't make a header for an H22...still, it's about $800 than i have right now.

so this is wrong then? it's right out of Sport Compact and this engine is directly from Japan, it's a '97 motor...take a look, tell me if this is wrong.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
5G ’99+ Prelude USA BB6 H22A 2157 10.0:1 200hp@7000/156lb-ft@5250
5G ’97-’98 Prelude USA BB6 H22A1 2157 10.0:1 195hp@7000/156lb-ft@5250
5G ’97+ Prelude SiR Japan BB H22A 2157 10.6:1 200@6800rpm/161lb-ft@5500
5G ’97+ Prelude Type S Japan BB H22A 2157 11.0:1 220@7200rpm/163lb-ft@6500
4G ’92-’96 Prelude S USA BB F22A1 2156 8.8:1 135hp@5200/142lb-ft@4000
4G ’92-’96 Prelude Si/SE USA BB2 H23A1 2258 9.8:1 160hp@5800/156lb-ft@4500
4G ’94-’96 Prelude VTEC USA BB1 H22A1 2156 10.0:1 190hp@6800/158lb-ft@5500
4G ’92-’96 Prelude Si Japan BA F22 2156 160hp@6000/148lb-ft@5000
(DOHC, non VTEC)
4G ’92-’96 Prelude VTEC Japan BB H22 2157 10.6:1 200@6800/161lb-ft@5500
3G ’90-’91 Prelude 2.0S USA BA B20A3 1958 9.1:1 104hp@5800/111lb-ft@4000
3G ’90-’91 Prelude 2.0Si USA BA B20A5 1958 9.0:1 135hp@5800/111lb-ft@4000
3G ’90-’91 Prelude Si USA BA B21A1 2056 9.4:1 140hp@5800/135lb-ft@5000
3G ’88-’89 Prelude Si USA BA B20A5 1958 9.0:1 135hp K4</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

i dunno what that wierd code is in that quote, but just look at the bold print.

 

we're using a p28 ecu chipped by a guy who has a fully tuned 12 second turbo accord. he knows what he's doing.

 

i know here in the UK we got a H22 5th gen which was badged as a motegi special, that came with the red top 220bhp engine but i dont know the code for it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 9311dan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh. the moderater on here (Aquafina) told me that smsp doesn't make a header for an H22...still, it's about $800 than i have right now.

so this is wrong then? it's right out of Sport Compact and this engine is directly from Japan, it's a '97 motor...take a look, tell me if this is wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the line you highlighted says TYPE S, so if you bought a TYPE S motor, the one with the red top like pizzaman said, than yes you have 220 crank hp

 

if you want that sort of power i would think your going to have to bump compression somehow then dial your P28 into it, i know a guy over here with a motegi (type s) and he's got CAI, exhaust, fancy plugs and all the rest of it and he's still not much faster than my base, i think if he got hondata and some dyno time however it would be a different story

 

do you think je high compression pistons, eagle rods, and a resleeve is a good idea?

 

i'm only just starting to learn about H22's myself (more used to aero engines!) but i think if you want big power you'll have to up compression, pistons are the best way to do it and unfortunately that means sleeving. as far as manufacturers go ppl on here have their preferences but in my opinion aslong as they give you the compression you want and they're from a reputable supplier go for 'em. you could always look into mahle gold series, i hear you can use them without resleeving

 

see, i was originally gonna do a b18C1 swap, but that fell through so i bought this motor, which i've never researched, therefore i don't know anything about it. which sucks b/c it's going in my car next week.

the head is built very well, all i need now is what i said above and the block will be decent...then i can boost.

i don't want to get pistons to avoid a resleeve. if i'm going to get high-compression pistons, i want to do it right, so resleeving is a must IMO...thanks for the opinions though!

 

if you intend to boost then sleeving is probably the best way to go, but those cams will be worthless to you aswell as your high comp pistons obviously and i think the later model H22's came with open deck designs, speak to the guy a few threads down, he's making good power with a stock H23 and H22 head. good info if your thinnking about boost

 

true. i can't decide what i want to do.

an N/A H22 integra would be pretty cool, but i could no doubt make more power turboing it or even S/C it.

hmmmmmmm.

 

i know everyone is going to come a totally shoot me down right now but i think supercharging a prelude is dumb, cometh the flameth!

 

1998 Prelude
JRSC
9lbs pulley
440 DSM Injectors
Walbro Fuel pump
Kamakaze Header
Custom 3" exhaust
AEM Pulleys
Fuel Rail
Fuel Pressure Reg.
Lightened Flywheel
Clutch (not sure what kind?)
NEPTUNE


268whp on pump gas. 291whp on E85

 

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JRSC


268whp on pump gas. 291whp on E85</TD></TR></TABLE>

I like him

 

his power output has ALOT to do with the tuning software.

 

If it's a fast NA integra you want then it's not hard to do with a H22. Looked up a guy nakes skunked he has a 12.2 second NA integra that only puts out like 220ish to the wheels or so.

 

he has a b series tranny as well. Which really helps in his case.