gs-r future??
I have a 96 gsr and I was wondering how much horsepower I have actually gained from the things on my car. I have 4-1 dc headers, cold air intake, skunk 2 intake manifold, and a 2 1/2 inch exhaust with magnaflow cat. I am not really sure what I want to do next. If anyone could help me with AROUND how much hp I am putting out and any suggestions on what to do next would help. Thanks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bodhi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">170 stock
I'd say you have around 220.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahahahahahahahahahaha. no.
I'd say you have around 220.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahahahahahahahahahaha. no.
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I'd say you have around 220.</TD></TR></TABLE>
reminds me of the ricer who told me his ls sat at 160 hp from his exhaust and intake
I'd say you have around 220.</TD></TR></TABLE>
reminds me of the ricer who told me his ls sat at 160 hp from his exhaust and intake
yea, I definately know I am not in the 200's or proly not even near it lol.... but seriously, does ne one have a clue has to approximately how much and anyone have some suggestions on what to do? hondata??? cams??? what?
if stock is 170 then you probably have 175 maybe 180. Next you need to decide how much money you want to put into it and what you want from your car. Do you want to go NA or Boost? If na, then i suppose you could start with some cams or something of that sort...but remember to get a good tune.
Or boost, well you might as well see the forum if you want to see what that takes.
IF you want to gradually build your car, NA might be for you, since you have to buy a craplpoad of stuff before you can actually have a turbo setup.
And lmao at 220 oh man i hope your joking guy
Or boost, well you might as well see the forum if you want to see what that takes.
IF you want to gradually build your car, NA might be for you, since you have to buy a craplpoad of stuff before you can actually have a turbo setup.
And lmao at 220 oh man i hope your joking guy
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aaro890 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if stock is 170 then you probably have 175 maybe 180. Next you need to decide how much money you want to put into it and what you want from your car. Do you want to go NA or Boost? If na, then i suppose you could start with some cams or something of that sort...but remember to get a good tune.
Or boost, well you might as well see the forum if you want to see what that takes.
IF you want to gradually build your car, NA might be for you, since you have to buy a craplpoad of stuff before you can actually have a turbo setup.
And lmao at 220 oh man i hope your joking guy
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building NA is probably as much or MORE then buying a kit for turbo set up... and no he doesnt have anywhere near 170-180 hp.. with those mods u probably have 140-155whp.. get some cams to compliment that manifold.. u will feel loss in low and midrange without cams
Or boost, well you might as well see the forum if you want to see what that takes.
IF you want to gradually build your car, NA might be for you, since you have to buy a craplpoad of stuff before you can actually have a turbo setup.
And lmao at 220 oh man i hope your joking guy
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building NA is probably as much or MORE then buying a kit for turbo set up... and no he doesnt have anywhere near 170-180 hp.. with those mods u probably have 140-155whp.. get some cams to compliment that manifold.. u will feel loss in low and midrange without cams
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building NA is probably as much or MORE then buying a kit for turbo set up... and no he doesnt have anywhere near 170-180 hp.. with those mods u probably have 140-155whp.. get some cams to compliment that manifold.. u will feel loss in low and midrange without cams</TD></TR></TABLE>
No where on this thread has anyone mentioned WHP, if the car has 180 HP it would have approximately 153 WHP. What you said makes no sense at all. I agree with the cam idea, some Skunk2 stage 2's would be nice
building NA is probably as much or MORE then buying a kit for turbo set up... and no he doesnt have anywhere near 170-180 hp.. with those mods u probably have 140-155whp.. get some cams to compliment that manifold.. u will feel loss in low and midrange without cams</TD></TR></TABLE>No where on this thread has anyone mentioned WHP, if the car has 180 HP it would have approximately 153 WHP. What you said makes no sense at all. I agree with the cam idea, some Skunk2 stage 2's would be nice
Well forgive my naivety..
I figured a header, cai, intake manifold, and a new exhaust would add more than 5-10hp.
My friend has an S4 and he had dyno charts of before/after he added his new exhaust. 27hp difference. I guess I'm still learning all the tricks of modding. =/
I figured a header, cai, intake manifold, and a new exhaust would add more than 5-10hp.
My friend has an S4 and he had dyno charts of before/after he added his new exhaust. 27hp difference. I guess I'm still learning all the tricks of modding. =/
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bodhi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well forgive my naivety..
I figured a header, cai, intake manifold, and a new exhaust would add more than 5-10hp.
My friend has an S4 and he had dyno charts of before/after he added his new exhaust. 27hp difference. I guess I'm still learning all the tricks of modding. =/</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, you are.. because your friends gains are with a boosted motor.. the gains are usually more magnified rather than an all motor honda..
I figured a header, cai, intake manifold, and a new exhaust would add more than 5-10hp.
My friend has an S4 and he had dyno charts of before/after he added his new exhaust. 27hp difference. I guess I'm still learning all the tricks of modding. =/</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, you are.. because your friends gains are with a boosted motor.. the gains are usually more magnified rather than an all motor honda..
cams next, but depending on the size of cam you get you might have to upgrade the valves,springs....etc
Once you get all of that done you will want to look into some sort of tune, hondata,chrome...etc. Get the car on the dyno and get it running the way it should run.
Then if you are still not happy with you power you need to consider going with pistons and rods. But at that same point you could decide to sell of what you have and go turbo as you are allready building the bottom end
Once you get all of that done you will want to look into some sort of tune, hondata,chrome...etc. Get the car on the dyno and get it running the way it should run.
Then if you are still not happy with you power you need to consider going with pistons and rods. But at that same point you could decide to sell of what you have and go turbo as you are allready building the bottom end
na- go wit cams and valvetrain upgrade. follow up wit tunin and/or bottom end build, also look at losing ur ac/ps if you already havent and get a type r crank pulley to help get ride of a little extra weight. theres alot of things you can do, but its all how you want to do it
turbo- look at homemade turbo, theres other complete kits to buy. just get ti tuned right to make the most of your money. a greatly tuned turbo can be fast and decently reliable. increase intake of air, fuel bein pumped and exhaust flow. is good idea to build a lil of the block to take a bigger boost
turbo- look at homemade turbo, theres other complete kits to buy. just get ti tuned right to make the most of your money. a greatly tuned turbo can be fast and decently reliable. increase intake of air, fuel bein pumped and exhaust flow. is good idea to build a lil of the block to take a bigger boost
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building NA is probably as much or MORE then buying a kit for turbo set up... and no he doesnt have anywhere near 170-180 hp.. with those mods u probably have 140-155whp.. get some cams to compliment that manifold.. u will feel loss in low and midrange without cams</TD></TR></TABLE>
aside from the fact no one mentioned whp...I suggested he could go with na because he could build it gradually. With a turbo setup, it may be cheaper in the long run, but you have to buy a bunch of crap first.
If you want to go NA, and get your cams, then make sure you get all tuned up. You can use hondata, although there are other programs which will work fine and are cheaper (free), such as crome, uberdata, etc.
building NA is probably as much or MORE then buying a kit for turbo set up... and no he doesnt have anywhere near 170-180 hp.. with those mods u probably have 140-155whp.. get some cams to compliment that manifold.. u will feel loss in low and midrange without cams</TD></TR></TABLE>aside from the fact no one mentioned whp...I suggested he could go with na because he could build it gradually. With a turbo setup, it may be cheaper in the long run, but you have to buy a bunch of crap first.
If you want to go NA, and get your cams, then make sure you get all tuned up. You can use hondata, although there are other programs which will work fine and are cheaper (free), such as crome, uberdata, etc.
You need some sort of Electronic Management System (EMS). Personally I would suggest Hondata (it's the only one I have had personal experience with), but you may want to ask some tuners who live near you. Also Skunk 2 cams and valvetrain would complement what you have nicely and put you probably at 175-185 whp when tuned.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bodhi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">170 stock
I'd say you have around 220.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahahahahahahahaha
I'd say you have around 220.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahahahahahahahaha
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building NA is probably as much or MORE then buying a kit for turbo set up... and no he doesn't have anywhere near 170-180 hp.. with those mods u probably have 140-155whp.. get some cams to compliment that manifold.. u will feel loss in low and midrange without cams</TD></TR></TABLE>
another person booing to N/A,
dude I'll go N/A any day
and plus this is not a thread about if he should go N/A or boost he wants to know how much hp he has and what he should do
id say you have about 155whp with those mods i would say maybe 157hp (if that!),
as for your future mods, it really depends if your going n/a or boost, its fine, its your car, but i recommend going all motor (in my opinion), so go with skunk or blox cams, b16a2 pistons, or jdm b16a pistons, hondata or crome to tune it...and you will have a great, fun, reliable setup
, and don't pay attention on people giving you opinions and their lame *** comment on boost and such and such....do research to find out what you should go for, because boost and n/a are 2 completely different things
building NA is probably as much or MORE then buying a kit for turbo set up... and no he doesn't have anywhere near 170-180 hp.. with those mods u probably have 140-155whp.. get some cams to compliment that manifold.. u will feel loss in low and midrange without cams</TD></TR></TABLE>another person booing to N/A,
dude I'll go N/A any day
and plus this is not a thread about if he should go N/A or boost he wants to know how much hp he has and what he should do
id say you have about 155whp with those mods i would say maybe 157hp (if that!),
as for your future mods, it really depends if your going n/a or boost, its fine, its your car, but i recommend going all motor (in my opinion), so go with skunk or blox cams, b16a2 pistons, or jdm b16a pistons, hondata or crome to tune it...and you will have a great, fun, reliable setup
, and don't pay attention on people giving you opinions and their lame *** comment on boost and such and such....do research to find out what you should go for, because boost and n/a are 2 completely different things
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another person booing to N/A,
dude I'll go N/A any day
and plus this is not a thread about if he should go N/A or boost he wants to know how much hp he has and what he should do
id say you have about 155whp with those mods i would say maybe 157hp (if that!),
as for your future mods, it really depends if your going n/a or boost, its fine, its your car, but i recommend going all motor (in my opinion), so go with skunk or blox cams, b16a2 pistons, or jdm b16a pistons, hondata or crome to tune it...and you will have a great, fun, reliable setup
, and don't pay attention on people giving you opinions and their lame *** comment on boost and such and such....do research to find out what you should go for, because boost and n/a are 2 completely different things</TD></TR></TABLE>
r u kidding me??? i gave thumbs down to the previous poster that i quoted. NA is BEST
another person booing to N/A,
dude I'll go N/A any day
and plus this is not a thread about if he should go N/A or boost he wants to know how much hp he has and what he should do
id say you have about 155whp with those mods i would say maybe 157hp (if that!),
as for your future mods, it really depends if your going n/a or boost, its fine, its your car, but i recommend going all motor (in my opinion), so go with skunk or blox cams, b16a2 pistons, or jdm b16a pistons, hondata or crome to tune it...and you will have a great, fun, reliable setup
, and don't pay attention on people giving you opinions and their lame *** comment on boost and such and such....do research to find out what you should go for, because boost and n/a are 2 completely different things</TD></TR></TABLE>r u kidding me??? i gave thumbs down to the previous poster that i quoted. NA is BEST
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r u kidding me??? i gave thumbs down to the previous poster that i quoted. NA is BEST
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i guess i had the wrong idea....i thought you thumbed down to n/a, oh well sorry man
oh yeah..........n/a
r u kidding me??? i gave thumbs down to the previous poster that i quoted. NA is BEST
</TD></TR></TABLE>i guess i had the wrong idea....i thought you thumbed down to n/a, oh well sorry man
oh yeah..........n/a
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC2SIR-G »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if his car has 180 HP doesnt mean it APPROXIMATELY has 153.. all motors varies
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The difference between the 180 and 153 figures mentioned has NOTHING to do with the motor.
180 was referring to horsepower at the crankshaft, which is the specification quoted by car manufacturers about their cars.
153 was referring to horsepower at the drive wheels (whp), which is the specification measured on the dynamometer and thus often quoted by tuners and those modding their cars.
The difference between the two figures is the drivetrain loss that occurs between the crank and the wheels (i.e. in the transmission). And 15 percent - the figure that Lan used to come up with the 153 number - is a typical figure for drivetrain loss in our cars.
</TD></TR></TABLE>The difference between the 180 and 153 figures mentioned has NOTHING to do with the motor.

180 was referring to horsepower at the crankshaft, which is the specification quoted by car manufacturers about their cars.
153 was referring to horsepower at the drive wheels (whp), which is the specification measured on the dynamometer and thus often quoted by tuners and those modding their cars.
The difference between the two figures is the drivetrain loss that occurs between the crank and the wheels (i.e. in the transmission). And 15 percent - the figure that Lan used to come up with the 153 number - is a typical figure for drivetrain loss in our cars.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .brian. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you might as well take of the IM if you have an otherwise stock motor. it is probably doing more harm than good.
and FYI, I/H/C/E do not yield very much WHP on hondas. </TD></TR></TABLE>
if that C stands for CAMS....id say thats a false statement...ive seen ctr cammed/skunk 2 stage 1 gsrs with bolt ons make in the 170 whp range
and FYI, I/H/C/E do not yield very much WHP on hondas. </TD></TR></TABLE>
if that C stands for CAMS....id say thats a false statement...ive seen ctr cammed/skunk 2 stage 1 gsrs with bolt ons make in the 170 whp range


