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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 07:45 AM
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saw this on an ebay auction for this benelli tornado. this pic made me interested

rear mounted radiator





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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 07:48 AM
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I think it is interesting... a hot ****
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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An interesting design, but nothing ground-breaking.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 07:58 AM
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Hmm....just seems like it is not really doing anything special except changing your look.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 08:26 AM
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the Honda NAS concept bike had a similar design.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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just imagine how this will work in stop-and-go traffic....i hope there are good heat shields near that thing, my radiator get's hot enough being behind the front wheels an my *** get's hot enough with the underseat exhaust....
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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What kind of performance advance do you gain from this?

There you go... rice!
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScareyH22A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kind of performance advance do you gain from this?

There you go... rice! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Less frontal area for the bike...?

One person with a Superhawk moved a radiator to his tail when he street-fighter'd his bike.




Modified by marmaladeboy at 11:37 AM 7/21/2006
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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What the heck??? Very cool
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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Seems like the air would get heated up a little after blowing past the hot head on the way to the radiator. The other thing i don't understand, where do they get the air from? i see exhaust fans, but on that super hawk, does the cooling air come from the sides of the seat or what?
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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I don't know about the Benelli, but here is info from the guy (Kai Ju on SuperHawkForum) that owns that bike:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
As far as some of the details, I had the idea several years ago when I saw a VTR without the tailsection and a VTX1800 radiator happened to be in my hand for a crash repair. A couple of quick measurements showed that it just might fit.
And it does, with about 2-3 mm to spare on either side.
The filler neck is in the back by the taillight and I installed a Schrader valve in the upper right hand corner so that I can bleed the system properly.The cooling system volume of the VTR and the VTX is within a couple of hundred cc's and with the plumbing I had to run to make it work it's about the same.
The bike runs at about 190F to a high of 210F with the fan constantly cycling.
I installed a manual ground for the fan switch and if I leave it own it actually overcools the engine.
The oilcooler is ZRX6 and oil temp runs at about 180F which is cooler than I expected.
I verified the indicated water temp with an infrared temp gauge and the 929 gauges are accurate.
The seat cowl is cool to the touch, as is the seat, even after a canyon blast. It seems the bike doesn't care what I do, it just cycles between the mid 190's and 207-8.
I cut the tailsection by hand and glued the screen in place from the inside.
The idea was that air would enter through the cutouts and exit down and out above the rear tire.So far so good.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScareyH22A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kind of performance advance do you gain from this?
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It's more of an aerodynamic advantage than anything else. Radiators arn't very aerodynamic at all and at speed, push more air than let air flow through.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know about the Benelli, but here is info from the guy (Kai Ju on SuperHawkForum) that owns that bike:

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Wow, I woudlnt' have thought this to be a very effective way but after reading that. I love the idea!
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