wutz up ht. i was offered a stroker kit to make my b16 a 1.8 for 1600 including machine shop cost. what do you guys think is it worth it? and whats the largest you can stroke a b16? thx

 

Or you can buy a GSR crank for....300-400$ that will do the same thing. All you would need are bearings and rings...

 

well i would look more towards the bore of the block instead of the stroke. you could get a b16 sleeved to 84mm with a 89mm ls crankshaft and it will be 2.0L of displacement.

or you could get a b16 block sleeved to 84mm with a 95mm eagle crankshaft. yada yada.

i dont think that its worth it you arent gaining that much displacement for the money. like the previous poster said u can use other oem parts to stroke the motor. the main thing i would look into is a 84mm bore b16 you can find them all the time. that is where you will gain your torque from

 

so all i gotta do to get that 84mm bore is sleeve it? and i had asked the same guy thats selling me the stroker kit if i could put an ls crank in my block he said yes but i would need custom rods, he said that would get really expensive..is that true?

 

Just get a 1.8 bottom end.

 

Word. Just buy a B18 short block. Better yet, just buy a B18C.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91SiZ6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Word. Just buy a B18 short block. Better yet, just buy a B18C.</TD></TR></TABLE>i thought about that but id be spending double the money..i really wanned a b20 but i heard the sleeves are really weak. so since i have a b16 block already i was thinking about making my own b20...i think it'll cost about the same. id buy new pistons rods n sleeves for the b20, so i figuered id just do it to my b16.

 

BOOOOOOO crv blocks do have thiner sleeves but can handle most street aplications you can throw at them... I think someone said they've seen a crv with stock sleeves running at lik 13.4:1 comperrsion with no problems :S

 

stock b20 bottom ends are **** if your going crvtec but the sleeves from what ive gathered are alright AS LONG AS YOUR NOT BOOSTING, If your goin crvtec A vtec oil pump, water pump, arp rod bolts, head studs, and shot peened rods In my opinion is a must for reliability.

 

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He cant use the 1.8 gsr crank,,,but he could use the B17a gsr crank,and rods and make his b16 a 1.7 ,,but i dont really think its worth it in the end....Its just better,easier and cheaper to get a B18 block

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That is not true,,,why do you people say B20's have thinner sleeves ? thats bullshit,,the sleeves are actually thicker then the other b-motors,,,,,but its the unisleeve design that makes the engine weaker ,,,,

 

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That is not true,,,why do you people say B20's have thinner sleeves ? thats bullshit,,the sleeves are actually thicker then the other b-motors,,,,,but its the unisleeve design that makes the engine weaker ,,,,

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dont do it...

 

so what do you guys recommend? i got the b16 block for free, my cusin went ls/vtec and gave it me...i dont got much money as im a full time student with a shitty job n this is a project car, i have a daily driver so yes i want big power. Im just TRYING not to spend a fortune getting it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MKcrxB16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what do you guys recommend? i got the b16 block for free, my cusin went ls/vtec and gave it me...i dont got much money as im a full time student with a shitty job n this is a project car, i have a daily driver so yes i want big power. Im just TRYING not to spend a fortune getting it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Since your funds are low you only have 1 choice....Get b17a1 crankshaft and B17a1 rods and you'll have a 1.7Litre stroked b16a engine....Cause all the aftermarket stroker kits are expensive

 

I'd sell the B16 block and buy a B18A/B block. Cheapest solution.

 

Wow, you only have the bottom end? Why even bother, work on getting the top end of a B16, then get rid of the bottom end and spend the 300-400$ and getting a decent bottom end from an LS and make an LS VTEC. Might not have the best CR but it's a start.

 

If you spend $800 on a B18C bottom end that is goning to be much cheaper than trying to stroke a b16a. B17A1 part are difficult and expensive to come by. As Mr Speaker said, a GSR crank is going to require custom rods, etc. to work.

 

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duh?

 

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i have a b16 head, springs retainers valves and a 5 angle valve job, so the tops ready to go...except for cams

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mar778c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you spend $800 on a B18C bottom end that is goning to be much cheaper than trying to stroke a b16a. B17A1 part are difficult and expensive to come by. As Mr Speaker said, a GSR crank is going to require custom rods, etc. to work. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i thought about this too isnt this similar to a type r? gsr bottom end and b16 head?
this does sound pretty good thx mar...and yes i know i can go ls/vtec or crvtec but to be honest with you im not a big fan of the return oil line thing. and for now i want all motor but half way thru my project i decide to go on boost i dont like the idea of having 2 return oil lines know what i mean. but thx everyone the inputs great keep it comin!

 

GSR block with your existing head and keep the extra $800 for something important.

 

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duh? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Its a thread about making a b16 a 2.0 liter, figureded I should start with the basic info................dumbass

 

well lets say i buy that gsr, ima need new pistons, rods and sleeves anyways to get to that 2.0 liter. so is it really worth it? pistons rods and sleeves are well over 800$.

 

Dude, just buy a 2l block if you want a 2l motor. Don't worry about trying to reinvent the wheel.

 

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i know what you mean man but i dont want do some half *** **** know what i mean? yea im on a budget, but i would like a decent build. my bad if i seem indecisive but im trying to get as much info from ppl who know. as u can tell i dont know much.

 

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Hmmm.....see sig.

Ive had no problems after a good tune. And its a ******* beast with 28psi.