Well i got my hands on some cash and i was planning on building/buying a built head for my gsr and slapping in some b16 pistons.. but i dunno if i want to go n/a or turbo and i cannot make up my mind.. i can get skunk 2 stg 2 cams springs retainers valves intake mani and tb for 1 grand.. only thing used is intake mani and tb. i do not need the intake mani and tb as i already have one on my car.. or i might be buying a built head for a grand.. i dont know any places to get a cheap decent turbo kit (theres a few on ebay) but i was wondering if any of you boosted or n/a guys have any suggestions and how you like your setup and if you have any regrets going with n/a instead of boost or vise versa

 

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Put it in the bank and save it for a down payment on a house.

 

n/a cost alot more money to make power
turbo or supercharger cost alot less for the same power

n/a is more reliable
turbo or supercharger isn't as but can be

 

im going to be going into boot camp after this summer so no need for dp on a house

 

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turbo or supercharger cost alot less for the same power

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Put it in the bank and save it for a down payment on a house.</TD></TR></TABLE>



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turbo or supercharger isn't as but can be</TD></TR></TABLE>

n/a is not more reliable.
youre pushing the limits of the engine all the time, at least with turbo/supercharger
you have the option to stay out of boost. either way you go, you'll want to spend a good amount of change on internals. boost is better .

 

i was just set on making a fast all motor honda because not many people do it... around here all the fast hondas are boosted

 

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n/a is not more reliable.
youre pushing the limits of the engine all the time, at least with turbo/supercharger
you have the option to stay out of boost. either way you go, you'll want to spend a good amount of change on internals. boost is better .</TD></TR></TABLE>

all stick with n/a is more reliable..

and what limits are you pushing?

 

i know someone who bought this kit
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

and they have had no problems with it... kind of cheap tho

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1

this caught my eye as well... anyone ever heard of them?

 

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this caught my eye as well... anyone ever heard of them?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would trust a homemade turbo, more then that

 

do any of yall know any good cheap turbo kits that are out there?

 

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all stick with n/a is more reliable..

and what limits are you pushing? </TD></TR></TABLE>

to make good power on an n/a motor you'll have to bore/stroke it and raise the compression. by doing that youre completely ruining the engines design. the longer stroke an engine has the more stress it puts on its components. how is n/a even considered remotely reliable? youre physically making the engine do more work, instead of having a turbo push fuel/air in, the engine has to suck it all in with its own bore/stroke. youre pushing its limits.

 

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Best idea yet.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95dxb18c1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do any of yall know any good cheap turbo kits that are out there?</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.homemadeturbo.com

i suggest you read... a lot

 

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http://www.homemadeturbo.com

i suggest you read... a lot</TD></TR></TABLE>

damn, beat me to it.

just read all you can on homemadeturbo.com, it'll teach you a lot. then you can decide what parts you'll want to use.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by knockout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to make good power on an n/a motor you'll have to bore/stroke it and raise the compression. by doing that youre completely ruining the engines design. the longer stroke an engine has the more stress it puts on its components. how is n/a even considered remotely reliable? youre physically making the engine do more work, instead of having a turbo push fuel/air in, the engine has to suck it all in with its own bore/stroke. youre pushing its limits.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This paragraph makes no sense in my opinion

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by knockout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to make good power on an n/a motor you'll have to bore/stroke it and raise the compression. by doing that youre completely ruining the engines design. the longer stroke an engine has the more stress it puts on its components. how is n/a even considered remotely reliable? youre physically making the engine do more work, instead of having a turbo push fuel/air in, the engine has to suck it all in with its own bore/stroke. youre pushing its limits.</TD></TR></TABLE>

cool

 

All motor. You don't need a turbo on a Honda to have fun.

 

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No way, All Motor is unreliable....


According to some

 

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This paragraph makes no sense in my opinion</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry that i didnt have any obligatory "mah boy has dis in his hatch y0, and hes running 10's blah blah blah.", comments for you to understand what i said.

do i really have to break it down any more? the amount of power an engine makes is relative to how much air/fuel is pushed into the cylinders and how that mixture is combusted. a turbo charger will not only be cheaper, but since youre keeping the design of the engine relatively unchanged, you'll still have a reliable engine. making more power is also a plus.

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cool </TD></TR></TABLE>

wow, great contribution to the thread.

 

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No way, All Motor is unreliable....


According to some </TD></TR></TABLE>

look at what i typed tool. i was stating that turbo is more reliable than all motor. at least in daily driven applications (i.e. mild boost levels with semi built internals.)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by knockout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">look at what i typed tool. i was stating that turbo is more reliable than all motor. at least in daily driven applications (i.e. mild boost levels with semi built internals.)</TD></TR></TABLE>

semi built internals no no, according to you.. if you turbo your motor stays stock

 

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semi built internals no no, according to you.. if you turbo your motor stays stock
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really? i said that? why not read a few posts up?


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either way you go, you'll want to spend a good amount of change on internals.</TD></TR></TABLE>


ahh, nothing like cold hard proof to make my point.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by knockout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">look at what i typed tool. i was stating that turbo is more reliable than all motor. at least in daily driven applications (i.e. mild boost levels with semi built internals.)</TD></TR></TABLE>

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Last time I checked, the motors come naturally aspirated. I wonder why.