GTSPEC Braces - INSTALLED PICTURES
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Re: GTSPEC Braces - INSTALLED PICTURES (SuzukaBlueAP2)
you can get the trunk liner down so that you don't see the spare, but it takes up a bit of the trunk space. It helps auto-xin for sure. You could take 75% of the cage off with a 10mm and then you have just the rear strut tower bar which doesn't effect storage as much! And add the rest of the cage when you hit the Auto-xin circuit!
GTSpec is GREAT!!
GTSpec is GREAT!!
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Re: GTSPEC Braces - INSTALLED PICTURES (HaviNaFit)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HaviNaFit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And add the rest of the cage when you hit the Auto-xin circuit! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Unfortunately, the extra rear bracing would put the car in at least street-modified (SM) but probably one of the prepared class (likely d-prepared or e-prepared). If you'd run in a class where the rear bracing is legal, the remainder of the car would be way overmatched by cars actually prepared for the class.
The basic strut bars without the extra rear bracing would be legal for STS, but you'd also need at least tires, wheels, and coilovers to be close to competitive there.
Unfortunately, the extra rear bracing would put the car in at least street-modified (SM) but probably one of the prepared class (likely d-prepared or e-prepared). If you'd run in a class where the rear bracing is legal, the remainder of the car would be way overmatched by cars actually prepared for the class.
The basic strut bars without the extra rear bracing would be legal for STS, but you'd also need at least tires, wheels, and coilovers to be close to competitive there.
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Re: GTSPEC Braces - INSTALLED PICTURES (RavSpec)
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I think that is a waste of time and money. The front brace is a diving board. HELLO! There is no stiffness about the longitudinal axis of the car. The brace should be rotated 90 degrees to have any effect. And then additionally it would have to be supported in the middle section to keep it from bending in the car's verticle axis. It looks like an amateur product to me designed for show and no go.
The pulley looks like a waste of money too. It looks like it's been designed for show as well. Anyone can turn an aluminum billet and blue anodize it (in fact you can get it done in China for about $20 each in small quantities). If the product doesn't specify the difference in weight and rotational mass moment of inertia between the pretty blue piece and stock then don't waste your time. The dyno will not show any hp gain. That is just ridiculous. The only improvement will be imperceptibly more dr/dt. If you consider the mass moment of inertia of the entire engine and remove a few ounces from a pulley you've just changed things by probably .000001 percent.
...just my 2 cents.
I think that is a waste of time and money. The front brace is a diving board. HELLO! There is no stiffness about the longitudinal axis of the car. The brace should be rotated 90 degrees to have any effect. And then additionally it would have to be supported in the middle section to keep it from bending in the car's verticle axis. It looks like an amateur product to me designed for show and no go.
The pulley looks like a waste of money too. It looks like it's been designed for show as well. Anyone can turn an aluminum billet and blue anodize it (in fact you can get it done in China for about $20 each in small quantities). If the product doesn't specify the difference in weight and rotational mass moment of inertia between the pretty blue piece and stock then don't waste your time. The dyno will not show any hp gain. That is just ridiculous. The only improvement will be imperceptibly more dr/dt. If you consider the mass moment of inertia of the entire engine and remove a few ounces from a pulley you've just changed things by probably .000001 percent.
...just my 2 cents.
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Fitfokker:
I think you are totally wrong. When a car is making hard cornering, the sheet metal in the front clip of the car flexes as the vehicle is subjected to the cornering force. This is especially true for front wheel drive car. By connecting the two side together, it transmits the load of each strut during cornering via tension and compression of the strut bar which shares the load between both towers and reduces chassis flex. This will increase chassis rigidity and steering will become more precise.
As for the pulley, it's makes a huge different. Stock Honda Fit pulley is 4 lbs and 13 oz and the GTSPEC pulley is 1 lb and 6 oz. The reduction in weight is a a major difference. By freeing the extra weight that the crankshaft have to turn to generate power, by doing so, it will free up the extra HP that is lost through the heavier crank pulley. It's a proven method to increase low end and high end torque. Many magazine has published dyno result of lightweight pulleys vs stock heavier crank pulleys.
Also, how do you know dyno will have no gain on this product ? !! Have you test the actual product yourself ??
Thankx but you can keep you 2 cents..
And please do your research before you post any negative comments about the products that you have never see in person and have ABSOLUTELY no knowledge about.
Next time Try google.com before you make a statement like this !
Modified by RavSpec at 12:57 AM 7/20/2006
I think you are totally wrong. When a car is making hard cornering, the sheet metal in the front clip of the car flexes as the vehicle is subjected to the cornering force. This is especially true for front wheel drive car. By connecting the two side together, it transmits the load of each strut during cornering via tension and compression of the strut bar which shares the load between both towers and reduces chassis flex. This will increase chassis rigidity and steering will become more precise.
As for the pulley, it's makes a huge different. Stock Honda Fit pulley is 4 lbs and 13 oz and the GTSPEC pulley is 1 lb and 6 oz. The reduction in weight is a a major difference. By freeing the extra weight that the crankshaft have to turn to generate power, by doing so, it will free up the extra HP that is lost through the heavier crank pulley. It's a proven method to increase low end and high end torque. Many magazine has published dyno result of lightweight pulleys vs stock heavier crank pulleys.
Also, how do you know dyno will have no gain on this product ? !! Have you test the actual product yourself ??
Thankx but you can keep you 2 cents..
And please do your research before you post any negative comments about the products that you have never see in person and have ABSOLUTELY no knowledge about.
Next time Try google.com before you make a statement like this !
Modified by RavSpec at 12:57 AM 7/20/2006
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aallbbeerrtttttt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'd be weary about that pulley, aftermarket lightweight pulleys sometime upset the balance in your crankshaft and can cause bearings to wear out faster</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea, i hear the same thing. but if its from a well known and reputable company i wouldnt be worried.
yea, i hear the same thing. but if its from a well known and reputable company i wouldnt be worried.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RavSpec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fitfokker:
I think you are totally wrong. When a car is making hard cornering, the sheet metal in the front clip of the car flexes as the vehicle is subjected to the cornering force. This is especially true for front wheel drive car. By connecting the two side together, it transmits the load of each strut during cornering via tension and compression of the strut bar which shares the load between both towers and reduces chassis flex. This will increase chassis rigidity and steering will become more precise.
As for the pulley, it's makes a huge different. Stock Honda Fit pulley is 4 lbs and 13 oz and the GTSPEC pulley is 1 lb and 6 oz. The reduction in weight is a a major difference. By freeing the extra weight that the crankshaft have to turn to generate power, by doing so, it will free up the extra HP that is lost through the heavier crank pulley. It's a proven method to increase low end and high end torque. Many magazine has published dyno result of lightweight pulleys vs stock heavier crank pulleys.
Also, how do you know dyno will have no gain on this product ? !! Have you test the actual product yourself ??
Thankx but you can keep you 2 cents..
And please do your research before you post any negative comments about the products that you have never see in person and have ABSOLUTELY no knowledge about.
Next time Try google.com before you make a statement like this !
Modified by RavSpec at 12:57 AM 7/20/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>
RavSpec, I think YOU are totally wrong.
A pulley does not absorb, dissipate, or creat power. Your Google education has led you awry. What you're suggesting is that if I put on lighter wheels I will have more power. Wrong. The only thing a lighter pulley will do is reduce the rotational inertia of a spinning shaft. What that means is the engine will spool up faster. The rotational acceleration will increase. But power output will be the same. So what you get is faster acceleration.
So what is the huge difference in acceleration between a 4 pound spinning wheel and a 1 pound spinning wheel when it's attached to a spinning engine that's 500 lbs (or whatever?)
The brace on this post will work in tension but not in compression. It will bow when compressed. The diving board needs to be supported in the middle section in a few areas for support to keep it from buckling.
I think you are totally wrong. When a car is making hard cornering, the sheet metal in the front clip of the car flexes as the vehicle is subjected to the cornering force. This is especially true for front wheel drive car. By connecting the two side together, it transmits the load of each strut during cornering via tension and compression of the strut bar which shares the load between both towers and reduces chassis flex. This will increase chassis rigidity and steering will become more precise.
As for the pulley, it's makes a huge different. Stock Honda Fit pulley is 4 lbs and 13 oz and the GTSPEC pulley is 1 lb and 6 oz. The reduction in weight is a a major difference. By freeing the extra weight that the crankshaft have to turn to generate power, by doing so, it will free up the extra HP that is lost through the heavier crank pulley. It's a proven method to increase low end and high end torque. Many magazine has published dyno result of lightweight pulleys vs stock heavier crank pulleys.
Also, how do you know dyno will have no gain on this product ? !! Have you test the actual product yourself ??
Thankx but you can keep you 2 cents..
And please do your research before you post any negative comments about the products that you have never see in person and have ABSOLUTELY no knowledge about.
Next time Try google.com before you make a statement like this !
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RavSpec, I think YOU are totally wrong.
A pulley does not absorb, dissipate, or creat power. Your Google education has led you awry. What you're suggesting is that if I put on lighter wheels I will have more power. Wrong. The only thing a lighter pulley will do is reduce the rotational inertia of a spinning shaft. What that means is the engine will spool up faster. The rotational acceleration will increase. But power output will be the same. So what you get is faster acceleration.
So what is the huge difference in acceleration between a 4 pound spinning wheel and a 1 pound spinning wheel when it's attached to a spinning engine that's 500 lbs (or whatever?)
The brace on this post will work in tension but not in compression. It will bow when compressed. The diving board needs to be supported in the middle section in a few areas for support to keep it from buckling.
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Fitfokker:
There are so many lightweight pulleys in the market for numerous application and there are so many dyno # that has proven that light weight pulley did increase horsepower from stock pulley.
As for the front strut braces, you first post mention that it's totally useless, now you say that it's work in tension ???? HELLO ..
Cusco, Spoon, Mugen, Carbring, Autoexec, Mazdaspeed, STI, Ralliart and manyothers all have similiar design to the GTSPEC brace, so they are all amateur ?
If you did purchase the product and have negative feed back about it, then you can talk down on the product or make the comment you did, but if you have never use the product or never see these in person or know any one that have try the product then you have no right to make your claims.
There are so many lightweight pulleys in the market for numerous application and there are so many dyno # that has proven that light weight pulley did increase horsepower from stock pulley.
As for the front strut braces, you first post mention that it's totally useless, now you say that it's work in tension ???? HELLO ..
Cusco, Spoon, Mugen, Carbring, Autoexec, Mazdaspeed, STI, Ralliart and manyothers all have similiar design to the GTSPEC brace, so they are all amateur ?
If you did purchase the product and have negative feed back about it, then you can talk down on the product or make the comment you did, but if you have never use the product or never see these in person or know any one that have try the product then you have no right to make your claims.
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unorthodox Racing :
They specialized in pulleys. This is quoted from Unorthodax Racing site
"Our Tuner Series crank pulleys provide HP & Torque gains across the entire RPM range. Power gains come from the reduction of weight. An average of 2.7 HP is gained from every pound lost off the crank shaft. 80-85% of our gains are from weight loss."
You can verify the info here.
http://www.unorthodoxracing.com/gennav_info.html
Here is dyno chart of a Scion tC with light weight pulley from Unorthdox racing with 4.9 HP gain !!!!
Here is a dyno chart of Legacy GT with set of pulleys (crank, ac , altenator), max gain of 14.1 HP.
Modified by RavSpec at 10:54 PM 7/20/2006
They specialized in pulleys. This is quoted from Unorthodax Racing site
"Our Tuner Series crank pulleys provide HP & Torque gains across the entire RPM range. Power gains come from the reduction of weight. An average of 2.7 HP is gained from every pound lost off the crank shaft. 80-85% of our gains are from weight loss."
You can verify the info here.
http://www.unorthodoxracing.com/gennav_info.html
Here is dyno chart of a Scion tC with light weight pulley from Unorthdox racing with 4.9 HP gain !!!!
Here is a dyno chart of Legacy GT with set of pulleys (crank, ac , altenator), max gain of 14.1 HP.
Modified by RavSpec at 10:54 PM 7/20/2006
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A waste of time and amateur product from Spoon (according to Fitfokker)
http://www.hondatuningmagazine...spoon/
http://www.hondatuningmagazine...spoon/
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RavSpec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">According to Fitfokker, Mugen front tower bar is "waste of time" and "an ameteur product"
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My posts speak for themselves. I never said Mugen front tower bar is a "waste of . Only the GTSPEC. The Mugen appears to be the right design approach. It has the right cross section to prevent buckling. The GTSpec does not appear too.
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My posts speak for themselves. I never said Mugen front tower bar is a "waste of . Only the GTSPEC. The Mugen appears to be the right design approach. It has the right cross section to prevent buckling. The GTSpec does not appear too.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RavSpec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A waste of time and amateur product from Spoon (according to Fitfokker)
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Another misquote. I never said Spoon was an amateur product . I only said the GTSpec had the wrong x-section The Spoon appears to be the right design approach. Notice that it is not a diving board. It is a round x-section which I think is the best x-section to prevent buckling loads if it's going to be unsupported.
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Another misquote. I never said Spoon was an amateur product . I only said the GTSpec had the wrong x-section The Spoon appears to be the right design approach. Notice that it is not a diving board. It is a round x-section which I think is the best x-section to prevent buckling loads if it's going to be unsupported.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RavSpec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">unorthodox Racing :
They specialized in pulleys. This is quoted from Unorthodax Racing site
"Our Tuner Series crank pulleys provide HP & Torque gains across the entire RPM range. Power gains come from the reduction of weight. An average of 2.7 HP is gained from every pound lost off the crank shaft. 80-85% of our gains are from weight loss."
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Lighter pulleys make more hp?
The only way for an internal combustion engine to make more power is to produce more torque. The only way to produce torque is.... well.... we all know that, increase the fuel/air charge, reduce back pressure, etc... with turbos, intakes, exhausts, etc...
Now if you want to make your car go faster you can either make the engine produce more power OR reduce the weight of your car. You can also reduce the mass moment of inertia of the engine components to allow it to acccelerate faster. That's what lighter spinning accessories like pulleys do.
Most tuners appear to correlate the acceleration to an equivalent hp gain to sell their products. That's fine, but understand that it's correlation and not actual hp gain. If it's 2.7ph/lb that means if I remove 50 lbs I can get over 100hp gain? Wow.
They specialized in pulleys. This is quoted from Unorthodax Racing site
"Our Tuner Series crank pulleys provide HP & Torque gains across the entire RPM range. Power gains come from the reduction of weight. An average of 2.7 HP is gained from every pound lost off the crank shaft. 80-85% of our gains are from weight loss."
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Lighter pulleys make more hp?
The only way for an internal combustion engine to make more power is to produce more torque. The only way to produce torque is.... well.... we all know that, increase the fuel/air charge, reduce back pressure, etc... with turbos, intakes, exhausts, etc...
Now if you want to make your car go faster you can either make the engine produce more power OR reduce the weight of your car. You can also reduce the mass moment of inertia of the engine components to allow it to acccelerate faster. That's what lighter spinning accessories like pulleys do.
Most tuners appear to correlate the acceleration to an equivalent hp gain to sell their products. That's fine, but understand that it's correlation and not actual hp gain. If it's 2.7ph/lb that means if I remove 50 lbs I can get over 100hp gain? Wow.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FitFokker »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And then additionally it would have to be supported in the middle section to keep it from bending in the car's verticle axis. It looks like an amateur product to me designed for show and no go.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fitfokker »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The brace on this post will work in tension but not in compression. It will bow when compressed. The diving board needs to be supported in the middle section in a few areas for support to keep it from buckling. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Both the Mugen and Spoon has no support in the middle according to you !
And also, GTSPEC front strut brace is not a hallow brace, it's has triple internal wall to support the compression. Did you know about that ?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fitfokker »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The brace on this post will work in tension but not in compression. It will bow when compressed. The diving board needs to be supported in the middle section in a few areas for support to keep it from buckling. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Both the Mugen and Spoon has no support in the middle according to you !
And also, GTSPEC front strut brace is not a hallow brace, it's has triple internal wall to support the compression. Did you know about that ?
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Accoring to your theory then, a lightweight flywheel will be a total waste of time and money ? Lightweight flywheel is under the same theory !! How do you explain that ?
Using lighter pulleys, flywheels will then require less power to accelerate engine internal and therefore more power would be available to push the car along.
Using lighter pulleys, flywheels will then require less power to accelerate engine internal and therefore more power would be available to push the car along.
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These are summit's bar and flywheel, but in USA we call it GTspec, 100% exactly the same as summit, by the way the flywheel does gain hp, I had it dyno b4, it gain 5.9whp, and you can feel it right after you installed it... by the way I am from summit taiwan....
and RavSpec how come you don't install all the bars that we have? it will fit the USDM fit with no problem, the H braces, front lower bar, the rear lower, and the four point braces.
and RavSpec how come you don't install all the bars that we have? it will fit the USDM fit with no problem, the H braces, front lower bar, the rear lower, and the four point braces.
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im no pro bya ny means. by i agree with fitfokker. though i too have seen lightweight pulleys gain HP on the dyno, i believe what hes trying to say is it does not create anymore HP in the engine, it simply allows the engine to use its power to pull harder on the dyno, therefore making bigger HP figures.
kind of like someone lifting weights with 20 pounds strapped to his arm and with that he maxes out at 100 pounds. but if you drop the 20 pounds from each arm he can now max out at 140. he didnt get any stronger, he can now add more weights to the bar
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kind of like someone lifting weights with 20 pounds strapped to his arm and with that he maxes out at 100 pounds. but if you drop the 20 pounds from each arm he can now max out at 140. he didnt get any stronger, he can now add more weights to the bar
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hey RB1:
We are in the process of testing the rest of the braces. Should have it done next week. Do you have the dyno chart of the pulley ?
We did breifly match up the mounting point on the H brace and front lower tie brace, it looks like the front lower tie brace should be ok but the H brace might not fit on the 1.5 ... Will have more info next week.
We have receive the 4 point ladder brace yet .. I think GTSPEC didn't get it on their shipment last month.
We are in the process of testing the rest of the braces. Should have it done next week. Do you have the dyno chart of the pulley ?
We did breifly match up the mounting point on the H brace and front lower tie brace, it looks like the front lower tie brace should be ok but the H brace might not fit on the 1.5 ... Will have more info next week.
We have receive the 4 point ladder brace yet .. I think GTSPEC didn't get it on their shipment last month.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pos_cd5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im no pro bya ny means. by i agree with fitfokker. though i too have seen lightweight pulleys gain HP on the dyno, i believe what hes trying to say is it does not create anymore HP in the engine, it simply allows the engine to use its power to pull harder on the dyno, therefore making bigger HP figures.
kind of like someone lifting weights with 20 pounds strapped to his arm and with that he maxes out at 100 pounds. but if you drop the 20 pounds from each arm he can now max out at 140. he didnt get any stronger, he can now add more weights to the bar ...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Understood, and i do agree about your theory. None the less, a lightweight pulley does make the car accelarate faster. Some dyno give a result of increase HP ... but over all the pulley does help performance.
What really upset me is that fitfokker have never see the product and have never use the product and he use harsh word like waste of money, amateur products and ridiculous .. .
i think that is not the right and "RIDICULOUS" !!!
Modified by RavSpec at 11:22 PM 7/23/2006
kind of like someone lifting weights with 20 pounds strapped to his arm and with that he maxes out at 100 pounds. but if you drop the 20 pounds from each arm he can now max out at 140. he didnt get any stronger, he can now add more weights to the bar
...</TD></TR></TABLE>Understood, and i do agree about your theory. None the less, a lightweight pulley does make the car accelarate faster. Some dyno give a result of increase HP ... but over all the pulley does help performance.
What really upset me is that fitfokker have never see the product and have never use the product and he use harsh word like waste of money, amateur products and ridiculous .. .
i think that is not the right and "RIDICULOUS" !!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RavSpec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Understood, and i do agree about your theory. None the less, a lightweight pulley does make the car accelarate faster. Some dyno give a result of increase HP ... but over all the pulley does help performance.
What really upset me is that fitfokker have never see the product and have never use the product and he use harsh word like waste of money, amateur products and ridiculous .. .
i think that is not the right and "RIDICULOUS" !!!
Modified by RavSpec at 11:22 PM 7/23/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's not a theory RavSpec. Lightweight pulleys do not produce hp so stop. I posted "...What that means is the engine will spool up faster. The rotational acceleration will increase..." So now you're saying pulleys will increase acceleration? Isn't that what I already said?
I believe your diving board brace is not a good product because of the reasons I already quoted. You don't have to listen to me. You don't have to like me. You can even prove me wrong. But you should respond to me on the merits of my technical discussion or don't respond at all.
Another word on pulleys. In the world of physics you don't get something for nothing. You don't get faster acceleration with a lightweight pulley without some kind of side affect. Those can be extra loading on the accessories due to faster spool up and spool down, vibration, etc...
What really upset me is that fitfokker have never see the product and have never use the product and he use harsh word like waste of money, amateur products and ridiculous .. .
i think that is not the right and "RIDICULOUS" !!!
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It's not a theory RavSpec. Lightweight pulleys do not produce hp so stop. I posted "...What that means is the engine will spool up faster. The rotational acceleration will increase..." So now you're saying pulleys will increase acceleration? Isn't that what I already said?
I believe your diving board brace is not a good product because of the reasons I already quoted. You don't have to listen to me. You don't have to like me. You can even prove me wrong. But you should respond to me on the merits of my technical discussion or don't respond at all.
Another word on pulleys. In the world of physics you don't get something for nothing. You don't get faster acceleration with a lightweight pulley without some kind of side affect. Those can be extra loading on the accessories due to faster spool up and spool down, vibration, etc...
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to clear things up, a dyno merely extracts as much performance and quantifies it into horsepower/torque for simplification. so in essence, just like Fitfokker has described, lightweight pulleys (or any type of lightened modification) relieves some load under work which causes the dyno to pick up some 'extra' extraction prior to modification. hence, you will observe an increase of power... remember, it's not power created, but power extracted.
ie: simply put, you are a weight lifter who can normally bench press 150 lbs. but you'd like to lighten the load a bit and bench press at 125 lbs. you are not necessarily stronger... but your harnessed performance has increased due to the lighter load.
oh and on topic, how much was the GTspec brace?
ie: simply put, you are a weight lifter who can normally bench press 150 lbs. but you'd like to lighten the load a bit and bench press at 125 lbs. you are not necessarily stronger... but your harnessed performance has increased due to the lighter load.
oh and on topic, how much was the GTspec brace?