Another Turbo Question h22a (Yes, I searched)
Well, recently, my car has ran like just plain ****. me and my friends, have just decided to totally swap out the motor the f22 tranny that came with it, for better parts. We got to talking, and Im seriously considering boost.
My buddy has owned several ludes, and knows almost everything about hondas. He was talking about 10psi. I thought that was too much, and said, I'd like to run 5 so I can be on the safe side.
Now, there's been no specific answer, but say me, going for 5psi, what should i expect to upgrade? I was hoping just injectors, fuel rail, clutch, and flywheel. (we planned on doing those already anyways)
Then, of corse, the gauges, p28 thats chipped and tuned on a dyno(unless somone says different), fmic, lines, ect ect ect.
The motor has about 40k on it, being a JDM h22, the new LDS h22 tranny im getting, has under 100k for sure, but will be getting a couple parts if really needed.
I've got about 3g to spend, but, if possible, i need to buy other things too, like new rotors, pads, plugs, plug wires, ect.
So, basically, my list I can think of is:
Header
Turbo
Oil Lines
p28 (chipped)
fmic
IC pipes
plugs
plug wires
injectors
fuel rail
JDM LSD Tranny
Gauges
just to get me FI
anything im missing? and also, specific brands i should check for? and how much am i looking at spending on all this?
My buddy has owned several ludes, and knows almost everything about hondas. He was talking about 10psi. I thought that was too much, and said, I'd like to run 5 so I can be on the safe side.
Now, there's been no specific answer, but say me, going for 5psi, what should i expect to upgrade? I was hoping just injectors, fuel rail, clutch, and flywheel. (we planned on doing those already anyways)
Then, of corse, the gauges, p28 thats chipped and tuned on a dyno(unless somone says different), fmic, lines, ect ect ect.
The motor has about 40k on it, being a JDM h22, the new LDS h22 tranny im getting, has under 100k for sure, but will be getting a couple parts if really needed.
I've got about 3g to spend, but, if possible, i need to buy other things too, like new rotors, pads, plugs, plug wires, ect.
So, basically, my list I can think of is:
Header
Turbo
Oil Lines
p28 (chipped)
fmic
IC pipes
plugs
plug wires
injectors
fuel rail
JDM LSD Tranny
Gauges
just to get me FI
anything im missing? and also, specific brands i should check for? and how much am i looking at spending on all this?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TylerC161 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So, basically, my list I can think of is:
Header
Turbo
Oil Lines
p28 (chipped)
fmic
IC pipes
plugs
plug wires
injectors
fuel rail
JDM LSD Tranny
Gauges
</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm surprised no one chimed in that on a turbo setup you use a turbo manifold rather than a header, also you can scratch off plug wires and fuel rail from your list, also just get the LSD tranny along with your motor, some places have it for like +300 or something like that, It would be wise to get some type of fuel pressure regulator, like an aeromotive 1:1, but it turboing a stock h22 isnt something you just jump into, and if you want it to be reliable I think you should look into doing a little research and I think everyone will say tuning is imperative
So, basically, my list I can think of is:
Header
Turbo
Oil Lines
p28 (chipped)
fmic
IC pipes
plugs
plug wires
injectors
fuel rail
JDM LSD Tranny
Gauges
</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm surprised no one chimed in that on a turbo setup you use a turbo manifold rather than a header, also you can scratch off plug wires and fuel rail from your list, also just get the LSD tranny along with your motor, some places have it for like +300 or something like that, It would be wise to get some type of fuel pressure regulator, like an aeromotive 1:1, but it turboing a stock h22 isnt something you just jump into, and if you want it to be reliable I think you should look into doing a little research and I think everyone will say tuning is imperative
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1263795 tells you everything you need for a turbo setup + if you go to the forced induction thread in the faq section it gives you tons of other websites that will help. if your boosting the h22 you will be ok with stock internals to go anywhere from 5 to 10 psi. im going to be boosting mine at 8psi when the wastegate finally comes in off back order.
While the motor is out of the car I would atleast add a cometic head gasket to to lower the compression a bit or even better some H23 pistons. A greddy kit is a great starter turbo kit IMO.
yea i would go with a greddy kit seems to come with everything 8 psi is goo not to much and not to low i see alot of hondas on stock internals at 8 psi or 10
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silentvoice19 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea i would go with a greddy kit seems to come with everything 8 psi is goo not to much and not to low i see alot of hondas on stock internals at 8 psi or 10</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think as greddy kit would be fine. I still would add a thicker headgasket and/or H23 pistons for extra safly with a Jspec motor on boost.
I think as greddy kit would be fine. I still would add a thicker headgasket and/or H23 pistons for extra safly with a Jspec motor on boost.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TylerC161 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea, like i said, my friend is basically a honda god. He's building me a complete, nice, kit. 5psi sounds safe to me. and yes, a tune WILL be happeneing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If he is a honda god, have him toss in a thicker head gasket or even better for the 3rd time some h23 pistons. 10psi all day everyday and let her rip you will get bored with 5psi very easy and wish you would have went that route the first time. Just my 2cent
If he is a honda god, have him toss in a thicker head gasket or even better for the 3rd time some h23 pistons. 10psi all day everyday and let her rip you will get bored with 5psi very easy and wish you would have went that route the first time. Just my 2cent
lol im sorry but its like he's not listening to you. thats why people usually dont like the greddy kit because almost instantly you have to buy the upgrade for like 700 bucks becasue you want more power.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xLude97 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol im sorry but its like he's not listening to you. thats why people usually dont like the greddy kit because almost instantly you have to buy the upgrade for like 700 bucks becasue you want more power.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know I am just trying to save him the headache down the road . I'll just say it now I told you so hahaha
I know I am just trying to save him the headache down the road . I'll just say it now I told you so hahaha
so far, i got:
(sorry for ebay style listing)
greddy-s intercooler
oil line feed kit
TiAL 40mm Wastegate Silver .7 bar
h22a FULL gasket set
APEXI AVC-R AVCR BOOST CONTROLLER
AEM HIGH VOLUME FUEL RAIL
ACT XACT StreetLite Flywheel
Tial 50mm BOV
ACT F1 RACING CLUTCH 6 PUCK
WALBRO FUEL PUMP 255 LPH
GReddy Boost Gauge
AEM FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR
T4 turbo
still need
Transmission (waiting on friend)
Downpipe
Dumptube
Nology Hot Wires(getting tomorrow)
Socketed P28
DSM Blue Top Injectors with clips
Modified by TylerC161 at 1:05 AM 7/19/2006
(sorry for ebay style listing)
greddy-s intercooler
oil line feed kit
TiAL 40mm Wastegate Silver .7 bar
h22a FULL gasket set
APEXI AVC-R AVCR BOOST CONTROLLER
AEM HIGH VOLUME FUEL RAIL
ACT XACT StreetLite Flywheel
Tial 50mm BOV
ACT F1 RACING CLUTCH 6 PUCK
WALBRO FUEL PUMP 255 LPH
GReddy Boost Gauge
AEM FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR
T4 turbo
still need
Transmission (waiting on friend)
Downpipe
Dumptube
Nology Hot Wires(getting tomorrow)
Socketed P28
DSM Blue Top Injectors with clips
Modified by TylerC161 at 1:05 AM 7/19/2006
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$ depends on what fuel management you are gonna run.
thats gonna take you between 0 and 1400 dollars.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Agree...also save aside some $ to get it properly tuned so that you can get the most power out of your setup.
Also, if you plan on only running 5psi then that 10.6:1 c/r you have on the H22 will be fine (but again....get it tuned)
thats gonna take you between 0 and 1400 dollars.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Agree...also save aside some $ to get it properly tuned so that you can get the most power out of your setup.
Also, if you plan on only running 5psi then that 10.6:1 c/r you have on the H22 will be fine (but again....get it tuned)
You can safely run 5 to 10 psi on a stock block. I was running 7.5 to 8.5 on my prelude with just the greeedy kit and had no problems. Just be sure to get proper fuel management. You will be fine with stock wires, and fuel rail. I would spend that money elsewhere. Im new to forced induction as well so good luck!
Im just SOOOOOOOOOOO scared i'll blow **** up I hear SO many stories about how to not even boost the h22. I've got a 92 block, of which next week when i get my new flywheel, clutch, and tranny in im going to do compression, leak down, and every other type of test i can think of to make sure its tip top shape. My friend (whos basically put this setup togeather) is mindset on 7psi.. I would like 7psi, but damn, i CANT risk blowing this motor. I'll be outta money after this. lol
definitely get a good engine management, that is the key, as long as you have an excellent tune, you can make a lot of power, and also why not keep the f22 tranny if you're going turbo?
the whole long geared tranny thing..
i dont want to say its a myth, yes, more time in higher rpm is more boost time, but, acceleration is also a key factor in a race. the h23 tranny is going to give me parts of acceleration from a h22, and also a litle better upper range then a stock h22 tranny..
its a mix between both really..
and as far as fuel management and computers and stuff, i'll be running a chipped p28, completely dyno tuned by professionals for security.
well, at least i know 7psi is okay, that makes me feel a lot bette about even boosting this car in the first place. oh, and more HP FW
i dont want to say its a myth, yes, more time in higher rpm is more boost time, but, acceleration is also a key factor in a race. the h23 tranny is going to give me parts of acceleration from a h22, and also a litle better upper range then a stock h22 tranny..
its a mix between both really..
and as far as fuel management and computers and stuff, i'll be running a chipped p28, completely dyno tuned by professionals for security.
well, at least i know 7psi is okay, that makes me feel a lot bette about even boosting this car in the first place. oh, and more HP FW
hey bro u might wanna get ngk wires like 1 step colder ones. usually are better for FI setup.also the fact that i've not heard many good things about nology hotwires
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xLude97 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey bro u might wanna get ngk wires like 1 step colder ones. usually are better for FI setup.also the fact that i've not heard many good things about nology hotwires
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I think you mean 1 step colder plugs and not wires?
NGK BRK7E's should be good, 1 step colder than stock.
.</TD></TR></TABLE>I think you mean 1 step colder plugs and not wires?
NGK BRK7E's should be good, 1 step colder than stock.
bah, already ordered the wires today..
i havent even picked out plugs yet.
92piece, are you on http://www.kcsr.org? im in overland park. 95th and quivera.
i havent even picked out plugs yet.
92piece, are you on http://www.kcsr.org? im in overland park. 95th and quivera.
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