Reducing heat from the header on the oilpan
Ok, since I got the SMS header, one of the great features is the ground clearence. Only problem with that is now it's closer to the oil pan. What I'm looking for is suggestions on something possibly adhesive to go on the bottom of the oilpan between the sheet metal of the pan and the secondaries of the header. Anybody ever do anything in this area to reduce the heat transfer from the header to the oil pan? I will be running an oil cooler as well, but figured the cooler the better. Thoughts?
http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku
http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku
I have my downpipe and exhaust mani wrapped, heat shield on the pan.
done and done.
http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku
I have my downpipe and exhaust mani wrapped, heat shield on the pan.
done and done.
I have done this by placing a foil and asbestos sheet. which I got at S00per Autobacs, on the oil pan. I don't know how effective this measure is in reducing oil temps as I don't have an oil temp gauge and really can't confess that I have noted any performance difference.
I've heard people say that placing a thermal barrier on the oil pan actually reduces it's cooling efficiency by insulating the pan. Again, I haven't notice any negative consequences from it.
I've heard people say that placing a thermal barrier on the oil pan actually reduces it's cooling efficiency by insulating the pan. Again, I haven't notice any negative consequences from it.
Dave~
I am having problems with oil temperature on track (260 degrees) and am in the process of alleviating the problems. I am going from a 16 row Setrab oil cooler up to a 19 row. We are ducting the front bumper so all air that passes through comes through either the cooler or radiator. I am also sending my Comptech race header to be Jet Hot coated. The last thing I am doing is using this same stuff listed in this thread to tape against the oil pan to decrease the temperature of the oil in the pan from the heat of the header.
Just my .02
mike
I am having problems with oil temperature on track (260 degrees) and am in the process of alleviating the problems. I am going from a 16 row Setrab oil cooler up to a 19 row. We are ducting the front bumper so all air that passes through comes through either the cooler or radiator. I am also sending my Comptech race header to be Jet Hot coated. The last thing I am doing is using this same stuff listed in this thread to tape against the oil pan to decrease the temperature of the oil in the pan from the heat of the header.
Just my .02
mike
Get your header ceramic coated - it makes a HUGE difference in under hood temps.
I got my Hytech header coated and couldn't believe the difference.
I got my Hytech header coated and couldn't believe the difference.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Phat R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get your header ceramic coated - it makes a HUGE difference in under hood temps.
I got my Hytech header coated and couldn't believe the difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>
How much did you end up paying to have it coated? Are places that do the coating all over or am I going to have to ship this header? I'd rather be able to take it somewhere to have it done than to ship this thing again.
I got my Hytech header coated and couldn't believe the difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>
How much did you end up paying to have it coated? Are places that do the coating all over or am I going to have to ship this header? I'd rather be able to take it somewhere to have it done than to ship this thing again.
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Yes.. masking off the mating surfaces might be a good idea.
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Dude! 260F is not a problem. Put your cash back in your wallet and enjoy the fact that your oil temp is 260.
Yes.. masking off the mating surfaces might be a good idea.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EleanoR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am having problems with oil temperature on track (260 degrees) and am in the process of alleviating the problems. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Dude! 260F is not a problem. Put your cash back in your wallet and enjoy the fact that your oil temp is 260.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave_B »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
How much did you end up paying to have it coated? Are places that do the coating all over or am I going to have to ship this header? I'd rather be able to take it somewhere to have it done than to ship this thing again.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think I spent around $200 CDN - which is like $5 US
Any powdercoating place can usually do it for you - as it is a similar procedure. Just ask around - JetHot's coating is one of the best though - I think they can do a rush for you if you pay extra - plus it comes back all blingy chrome.
http://www.jet-hot.com/
How much did you end up paying to have it coated? Are places that do the coating all over or am I going to have to ship this header? I'd rather be able to take it somewhere to have it done than to ship this thing again.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think I spent around $200 CDN - which is like $5 US
Any powdercoating place can usually do it for you - as it is a similar procedure. Just ask around - JetHot's coating is one of the best though - I think they can do a rush for you if you pay extra - plus it comes back all blingy chrome.
http://www.jet-hot.com/
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agreed
It's good to be proactive but get your car out on the track first and see how reactive you are or will have to be with your setup.
Coating is my suggestion for reducing the transfer of heat to the oil pan and use temperature strips on your oil pan to gauge a heat range.
</TD></TR></TABLE>agreed
It's good to be proactive but get your car out on the track first and see how reactive you are or will have to be with your setup.
Coating is my suggestion for reducing the transfer of heat to the oil pan and use temperature strips on your oil pan to gauge a heat range.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KayOs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and use temperature strips</TD></TR></TABLE>
Where do you buy those little guys?
Where do you buy those little guys?
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Where do you buy those little guys?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I use the ones Cobalt Friction sells. They have strips for 3 different heat ranges.
Where do you buy those little guys?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I use the ones Cobalt Friction sells. They have strips for 3 different heat ranges.
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you n00b.
search this P.O.S. site.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1051940
you n00b.

search this P.O.S. site.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1051940
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you n00b.
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So drive your happy *** over to the local nascar shack and get me a bunch
you n00b.
</TD></TR></TABLE>So drive your happy *** over to the local nascar shack and get me a bunch
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So drive your happy *** over to the local nascar shack and get me a bunch
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Hell, if your gonna do that, I'll take a few.
So drive your happy *** over to the local nascar shack and get me a bunch
</TD></TR></TABLE>Hell, if your gonna do that, I'll take a few.
Use something similar to the reflective stuff Spoon sells. A layer between the header and pan. Could also get a small fan and have it pushing air between the header and pan when not moving and at low speeds. Like NASCAR does with their brake vents.
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Hell, if your gonna do that, I'll take a few.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Didn't find them at Cobalt or Pegasus, Essex has them listed in their catalog, but no price.
Hell, if your gonna do that, I'll take a few.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Didn't find them at Cobalt or Pegasus, Essex has them listed in their catalog, but no price.
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I think these might be what you are looking for.
temp strips @ cobalt.
160-230 http://www.cobaltfriction.com/...54114
240-310 http://www.cobaltfriction.com/...54115
temp strips @ cobalt.
160-230 http://www.cobaltfriction.com/...54114
240-310 http://www.cobaltfriction.com/...54115



