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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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Ok, since I got the SMS header, one of the great features is the ground clearence. Only problem with that is now it's closer to the oil pan. What I'm looking for is suggestions on something possibly adhesive to go on the bottom of the oilpan between the sheet metal of the pan and the secondaries of the header. Anybody ever do anything in this area to reduce the heat transfer from the header to the oil pan? I will be running an oil cooler as well, but figured the cooler the better. Thoughts?
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku

http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku

I have my downpipe and exhaust mani wrapped, heat shield on the pan.

done and done.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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I have done this by placing a foil and asbestos sheet. which I got at S00per Autobacs, on the oil pan. I don't know how effective this measure is in reducing oil temps as I don't have an oil temp gauge and really can't confess that I have noted any performance difference.

I've heard people say that placing a thermal barrier on the oil pan actually reduces it's cooling efficiency by insulating the pan. Again, I haven't notice any negative consequences from it.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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RTW FTMFW!!!

I knew someone would have links to some sort of crap. Thanks d00d!

And FWIW I'm not looking for just header wrap.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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I am having problems with oil temperature on track (260 degrees) and am in the process of alleviating the problems. I am going from a 16 row Setrab oil cooler up to a 19 row. We are ducting the front bumper so all air that passes through comes through either the cooler or radiator. I am also sending my Comptech race header to be Jet Hot coated. The last thing I am doing is using this same stuff listed in this thread to tape against the oil pan to decrease the temperature of the oil in the pan from the heat of the header.

Just my .02

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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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Get your header ceramic coated - it makes a HUGE difference in under hood temps.

I got my Hytech header coated and couldn't believe the difference.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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can you get a turbo housing ceramic coated?
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Phat R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get your header ceramic coated - it makes a HUGE difference in under hood temps.

I got my Hytech header coated and couldn't believe the difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How much did you end up paying to have it coated? Are places that do the coating all over or am I going to have to ship this header? I'd rather be able to take it somewhere to have it done than to ship this thing again.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can you get a turbo housing ceramic coated?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes.. masking off the mating surfaces might be a good idea.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EleanoR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am having problems with oil temperature on track (260 degrees) and am in the process of alleviating the problems. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Dude! 260F is not a problem. Put your cash back in your wallet and enjoy the fact that your oil temp is 260.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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For the rest, Chris just PM'd me this product as well..

http://www.ioportracing.com/Me..._Code
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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thats some heavy duty stuff

for now Im just going to go with what I have and look into getting some things coated later on.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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I'm gonna put it all together and see where I'm at. From there I'll decide what to run. I was just a little concerned because the secondaries are tucked up there.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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Yeah, 260* isn't anything to worry about, your earl is just fine. Once it gets closer to 300* you'd need to start worrying about it breaking down.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave_B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

How much did you end up paying to have it coated? Are places that do the coating all over or am I going to have to ship this header? I'd rather be able to take it somewhere to have it done than to ship this thing again.</TD></TR></TABLE>


I think I spent around $200 CDN - which is like $5 US

Any powdercoating place can usually do it for you - as it is a similar procedure. Just ask around - JetHot's coating is one of the best though - I think they can do a rush for you if you pay extra - plus it comes back all blingy chrome.

http://www.jet-hot.com/

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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 03:43 AM
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BPR does that stuff ever flake or anything? I've seen coated headers and stuff before, but after a period of time is starts flaking off. Any issues with yours?
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 08:59 AM
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Hey pokey Dave_B...just get out there & race. You're car will work just fine
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BudMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey pokey Dave_B...just get out there & race. You're car will work just fine </TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed

It's good to be proactive but get your car out on the track first and see how reactive you are or will have to be with your setup.

Coating is my suggestion for reducing the transfer of heat to the oil pan and use temperature strips on your oil pan to gauge a heat range.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KayOs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and use temperature strips</TD></TR></TABLE>

Where do you buy those little guys?
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Splat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Where do you buy those little guys?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I use the ones Cobalt Friction sells. They have strips for 3 different heat ranges.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Splat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where do you buy those little guys?</TD></TR></TABLE>
you n00b.

search this P.O.S. site.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1051940
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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you n00b. </TD></TR></TABLE>

So drive your happy *** over to the local nascar shack and get me a bunch
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Splat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So drive your happy *** over to the local nascar shack and get me a bunch </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hell, if your gonna do that, I'll take a few.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Use something similar to the reflective stuff Spoon sells. A layer between the header and pan. Could also get a small fan and have it pushing air between the header and pan when not moving and at low speeds. Like NASCAR does with their brake vents.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave_B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Hell, if your gonna do that, I'll take a few.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Didn't find them at Cobalt or Pegasus, Essex has them listed in their catalog, but no price.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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I think these might be what you are looking for.

temp strips @ cobalt.


160-230 http://www.cobaltfriction.com/...54114


240-310 http://www.cobaltfriction.com/...54115

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