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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Ok so lots of you might have already heard problems like this before,

my sunroof opens fine but usually never closes it will sometimes close probably after hours of pushing the switch. I have already cleaned the rails and took apart the switch and cleaned the metal connections and still it wont close.

what could it be??
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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pull off the plug above your right shoulder and u can open and close it with allen wrenches
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by La EF-8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pull off the plug above your right shoulder and u can open and close it with allen wrenches</TD></TR></TABLE>
so how is that going to fix the problem??
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hamstr323 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so how is that going to fix the problem?? </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol yeah and then what????
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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lol yeah and then what????</TD></TR></TABLE>
if it were me I would just replace the whole damn thing but thats just me
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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Drop it and find out. Mine had the same problem you're describing.. I would be making it go forward and backwards endlessly to get it to close all the way. I eventually took out the headliner and dropped it... the problem ended up being a single bolt that had come out, which was the reason it would close but not tuck in. Bad design

I got pics if you wanna see the part that was the problem
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 05:38 AM
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When you hit the switch does it do anything? Sounds like the switch needs pulled and the contactors cleaned up.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 05:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daveb91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When you hit the switch does it do anything? Sounds like the switch needs pulled and the contactors cleaned up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've said this before and I'll say it again. As the service manual diagnostic flow chart says: If the motor works in one direction but not in the other then the switch is absolutely positively 100% at fault for your problem.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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35830-SH3-003 = sunroof switch. freakin 34 dollars.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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my bad guys lmao i thought that you couldnt get the thing to close
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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how did you clean the contacts inside the switch?

you really need to scrape the black off (razor blade). i'd be very surprised if that didn't completely cure your problem.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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If you do clean the switch make sure to coat the contacts with dielectric? grease to prevent any more issues with corrosion.

My best bet would be that the switch is fubar'd if the sunroof will close all the way, but only after hours of hitting the switch. Seeing as it opens flawlessly, right?
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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How much does the sunroof assembly weigh? I've heard it weighs more then the hood.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 03:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Xander teh Grate! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much does the sunroof assembly weigh? I've heard it weighs more then the hood. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Only because of the motor assembly but you are way off topic.

You can clean it with emry cloth or sand paper the switch is a common problem with the sunroof other than RUST.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daveb91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You can clean it with emry cloth or sand paper the switch is a common problem with the sunroof other than RUST.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 12:58 AM
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yes the sunroof opens fine it just now doesnt close it used to at least close after hrs of pressing the switch.

Like i said i have already taken the switch apart and cleaned the contactors and also the rails.

stupid sunroof
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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Man, nobody's got an answer for this kid.

Well, Im no electrician, but I know things like this use a positive signal for one function and neg. for the other.

So, it'd sound like one signal or another is weak, causing it to open fine but not shut......

So maybe rewire it?
Sorry man, gave it my best shot.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SECURITY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Drop it and find out. Mine had the same problem you're describing.. I would be making it go forward and backwards endlessly to get it to close all the way. I eventually took out the headliner and dropped it... the problem ended up being a single bolt that had come out, which was the reason it would close but not tuck in. Bad design

I got pics if you wanna see the part that was the problem</TD></TR></TABLE>

that sorta sounds like what happens with mine, switch is fine, motor is fine but just wont close. you said you've got pics?
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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If it works in one direction and not the other it is the switch.

<U>Clean it again!</U>

On a side note how do you get the switch out without breaking it? Is there some sort of clip or just push it from behind?
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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On a side note how do you get the switch out without breaking it? Is there some sort of clip or just push it from behind?</TD></TR></TABLE>
there are little clip type things on the back, just reach under the dash and feel it up to see where they are, then depress n pop em out.

To the OP: Dont you know somebody with a EF? Just borrow another switch and try it out, there could be an internal problem with the switch beyond needing the terminals cleaned
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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It might not be the switch guys. Try and follow me here..

Looking at the sunroof assembly, it does 2 things. 1) it pops open, and 2) slides open. Same with closing.

Now, OP, when you go to close it, does it slide shut but not shut all the way? Like, is it still stuck open an inch or 2?? Then it's the same problem I had.

The day when I dropped my sunroof track to see what's what





See the off-gold color part at the bottom-right of the track and compare it to the same part at the top-right of the track and you will note that the top part is disconnected

The bottom part:



The top part:



And the screw that was the entire reason my sunroof wouldn't close:



So, OP, if your problem is similar to mine, you may want to look into this. GL KTHX BYE
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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^My old CRX surely had that wrong with it, it closed but lopsided and not all the way. Bet that was it. Good info
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by G0crxG0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Man, nobody's got an answer for this kid.

Well, Im no electrician, but I know things like this use a positive signal for one function and neg. for the other.

So, it'd sound like one signal or another is weak, causing it to open fine but not shut......

So maybe rewire it?
Sorry man, gave it my best shot.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ILcrxsi1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I've said this before and I'll say it again. As the service manual diagnostic flow chart says: If the motor works in one direction but not in the other then the switch is absolutely positively 100% at fault for your problem.</TD></TR></TABLE>if the motor is not running or running very weak in one direction it IS the switch
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SECURITY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It might not be the switch guys. Try and follow me here..

Looking at the sunroof assembly, it does 2 things. 1) it pops open, and 2) slides open. Same with closing.

Now, OP, when you go to close it, does it slide shut but not shut all the way? Like, is it still stuck open an inch or 2?? Then it's the same problem I had.

The day when I dropped my sunroof track to see what's what





See the off-gold color part at the bottom-right of the track and compare it to the same part at the top-right of the track and you will note that the top part is disconnected

The bottom part:



The top part:



And the screw that was the entire reason my sunroof wouldn't close:



So, OP, if your problem is similar to mine, you may want to look into this. GL KTHX BYE</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im having this exact problem ! My mechanic is investigating it now.
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