I,m about to purchase a new bumper cover & hood. I've decided on a cover, but I'm wondering what really is the differance ( other than price ) if any in a siebon hood and say a J's? This will be the first chunk of carbon fiber that I own.

 

Seibon is good stuff. J's is also good, but more expensive.

There are many Seibon carbon owners out there; and they have been satisfied with their quality.

 

I had a Seibon on my EG hatch.

And i am about to get one for my Silvia S13 (240sx)
So i am a repeated customer i guess.

The EG hood was a OEM style, and so will the Silvia’s

What kind of look are you going for? OEM, or a vented ?
i am guessing vented.

Seibon's vented hoods for the S looks good.

One thing i do like about the J's is they sell the Vent Covers.
So when it rains..

 

Surely there is some reason as to why some hoods are 2&3 times the price.Yes I am needing a vented piece, but I was wanting to use the V-style intake and the only 2 hoods I know of are the mugen and spoon style. Are there any more options out there for me?

 

I think it has to do with weave, and some companies have "Tighter" weave than others making it stronger.... Also fitment is also in equation, quality and such. And most of all, then brand name hehe

 

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You beat me to it.

Yes Guality and brand has alot to do with the price of the hood.

 

seibon is good, but nothing is better than authentic.

you should be ok with seibon, but i have heard some stories about bad batches of cf.

 

I've got a Seibon OEM style lip on my car, fitment is pretty good, not perfect, and the weave is noce. It's a good quality piece. I would buy Seibon again.


Tyler

 

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authentic? there is no such thing when it comes to carbon since the s2k didnt come with it from the factory.

 

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authentic? there is no such thing when it comes to carbon since the s2k didn't come with it from the factory. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I believe they are refering to Mugen, J's, Amuse, ASM etc. . . authentic meaning the people seibon copy

 

Seibon = The Rota of carbon fiber.

Worst company practices and i will NEVER buy from them , ever.

 

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authentic? there is no such thing when it comes to carbon since the s2k didnt come with it from the factory. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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I believe they are refering to Mugen, J's, Amuse, ASM etc. . . authentic meaning the people seibon copy</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

For the S2K The diff is in the weight...although it maybe not much but J's and such are lighter than stock...also the skeleton. Seibon doesn't make a nice skeleton like the Higher priced hoods. Mugen makes a nice CF skeleton totally worth the quality.

IMO..If your going for just looks stick to Seibon ( Visually they are beautiful ) For function and weight saving Start with J's ( more affordable) and if you can spend the money Go for Mugen or Amuse or such like them.

 

Or a Cwest piece. Lightweight, looks good, not too expensive.

 

Well my only reason for wanting the CF hood is because it's the only ventilated piece I can find. Heat is my only issue, I plan on painting the hood. Only thing is, I don't want the heat to destroy it.

 

My CF hood fitment is pretty decent, and I also have a trunk that fits like *** so its eh....

 

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most trunks suck because of the key hole. alot of cf trunks will warp if you have a touge wing.

 

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most trunks suck because of the key hole. alot of cf trunks will warp if you have a touge wing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My trunk doesn't have a keyhole and I don't have a wing, on the left side it sits pretty flush but on the right side it's raised like a 1/4", is there adjustments for the trunk? Because I basically just bolted it in and didn't adjust anything

 

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would you care to shed light on your personal experience. id like to know.
well i have an accord and my seibon lip fits perfect

 

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the story of how they bought the Mugen hardtop from Kingmotorsports to turn around and copy it behind their back says loads about their practices. Its a fact not a rumor. it was covered on here in some post but you'd have to search. i made my thoughts known in another post like this one and one of the employees came in and shedded some light on it. Just like I said. They called them, ordered 3 for "customers", came to SEMA with a Seibon HT. So they buy the product ala Rota and copy it. For those who dont want to spend the money for the real parts that is fine, but ihave more integrity than that to buy from a company who does **** like to save a dollar. that is why Mugen(M-tec)/Kingmotorsports was supposed to file legal action, i dont know about how this is going or if they are going threw with it. I hope they do


Modified by JDM knowledge at 9:35 AM 7/18/2006

 

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the story of how they bought the Mugen hardtop from Kingmotorsports to turn around and copy it behind their back says loads about their practices. Its a fact not a rumor. it was covered on here in some post but you'd have to search. i made my thoughts known in another post like this one and one of the employees came in and shedded some light on it. Just like I said. They called them, ordered 3 for "customers", came to SEMA with a Seibon HT. So they buy the product ala Rota and copy it. For those who dont want to spend the money for the real parts that is fine, but ihave more integrity than that to buy from a company who does **** like to save a dollar. that is why Mugen(M-tec)/Kingmotorsports was supposed to file legal action, i dont know about how this is going or if they are going threw with it. I hope they do


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wow powerful words. ill have to look into that

 

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the story of how they bought the Mugen hardtop from Kingmotorsports to turn around and copy it behind their back says loads about their practices. Its a fact not a rumor. it was covered on here in some post but you'd have to search. i made my thoughts known in another post like this one and one of the employees came in and shedded some light on it. Just like I said. They called them, ordered 3 for "customers", came to SEMA with a Seibon HT. So they buy the product ala Rota and copy it. For those who dont want to spend the money for the real parts that is fine, but ihave more integrity than that to buy from a company who does **** like to save a dollar. that is why Mugen(M-tec)/Kingmotorsports was supposed to file legal action, i dont know about how this is going or if they are going threw with it. I hope they do


Modified by JDM knowledge at 9:35 AM 7/18/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>

You act like all companies make their products original. Nobody bashs J's Racing for ripping off the Mugen hood and basically mimic the design of the Mugen intake. Their rear diffuser is also outsourced to some lower name brand company... all they do is slap their name on it and call it a day.

 

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at what point did i say anything about outsourcing? Dog when someone buys an original product and straight copies the bitch and then sells it at SEMA...you dont see anything wrong with that? it was a straight copy. Not similar. They didnt look at the bitch in a pic and say "hrmm let's make something along the lines of this HT." They photocopied the bitch. Its not called the Seibon HT, they market it as Mugen style HT. Yes it does look like J's Racing copied the basic idea of the Mugen intake. I dont have either one so cant speak if they are different by little points.

J's racing ripped off the Mugen hood? Holy **** really? taken from King and Bullet proof.

 

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J's racing ripped off the Mugen hood? Holy **** really? taken from King and Bullet proof.


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he's referring to the J's Type V hood, J's offers 2 different styles. This is the type V:



so I dunno, you're going on and on about how seibon is bad for copying, and that people should buy things like J's. However, you said it yourself that the J's intake and now as you can see the hood is remarkably similar to Mugen. So now what?

 

It's similar, not the same. The Mugen and Seibon hoods are pretty much the same. Aside for fitment (left to right), weave, cf quality, and the last vent blend....the hoods are the same. It's quite apparent that Seibon used a reverse mold made from a Mugen hood...just like their hardtop.

The J's Racing type V hood is similar, but is VERY obvious that the J's Racing hood is made from a whole different mold (not reverse engineered).

In anycase....I don't care for the debate. It's easy to see the low quality of the Seibon hood and hardtop vs. the Mugen pieces. All I know and care is that I got what I got, I don't really care what others put into their cars....that's just me speaking for personal pride and integrity.