hey i just picked up some aragosta coilovers for dc2 and i was wondering if you guys could post some pictures of different ones im not sure... which model mine are i know they are fairly old but know nothing else about them. kinda like to know what i got before i run them. 16 way adjustable help you guys!

 

Those are the old(er) ones, I'll see if i can dig up a pic of the newer ones

 

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You're too slow.

 

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You're too slow.

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Those aren't for DC2

:EDIT:
Basically, the newer spec Aragosta are DOUBLE-ADJUSTABLE like the ones in the pic Reid posted.


Modified by Kengs at 2:40 AM 7/6/2006

 

owneded...
the new ones don't look bad either...
I heard D2 suspension suck.

(Hey Reid, give me my 3% back LOL)

 

Aragosta.....yum

I held up a set before and they are light!

 

I put Aragosta suspension in the same boat as "Quantum". They're very expensive and and seem to have nice features, but no one seems to use them for racing. To me, that means that they're not all that good.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to hear some proven facts about these systems. Until then, it just seems like they're overhyped due to hearsay.

 

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Don't get me wrong, I'd love to hear some proven facts about these systems. Until then, it just seems like they're overhyped due to hearsay.</TD></TR></TABLE>


100% agreed

 

I'd take my chances with Quantum thank you

 

Aragosta used to be rather popular with a now defunct shop in Vancouver.

Altogether, they were very expensive and while my experience were limited with them, they didn't appear to be very impressive with their long damper bodies (DC2/5th gen civic apps) and rather low spring rates.

They did look nice, until I broke one of the adjustable collar allen heads - word to the wise, always use anti-seize if your climate calls for it.

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And I'll take Mugen Showa thank you....

 

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Those are the old(er) ones, I'll see if i can dig up a pic of the newer ones</TD></TR></TABLE>

mine look most like those right there except my springs are white, most likely either swapped out springs or they are old and the purple faded... the paints coming off the springs quite a bit. i think ill probably re powder coat the springs and check these for leaks before i run them. whats the MSRP on that set you posted BLACK OPPS?

wow you guys are fast, and very complete... this is why i love the type R forum better than all other H+T

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fourcsan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mine look most like those right there except my springs are white, most likely either swapped out springs or they are old and the purple faded... the paints coming off the springs quite a bit. i think ill probably re powder coat the springs and check these for leaks before i run them. whats the MSRP on that set you posted BLACK OPPS?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If your suspension is this old, you may as well have them rebuilt before you install them in your car.

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Me too.

 

i might, if i see the seal being very worn or anything. other than that if no leaks ill just run them till they do, thats the worst case scenario... and hell yeah id take mugen showa's too but i take what comes to me... and this was what my firend had on his car before he recently upgraded.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fourcsan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i might, if i see the seal being very worn or anything. other than that if no leaks ill just run them till they do, thats the worst case scenario... and hell yeah id take mugen showa's too but i take what comes to me... and this was what my firend had on his car before he recently upgraded.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What kind of spring rates are currently on the coilovers? Were they used on the track, and if so, what did your friend upgrade to?

 

he doenst know this car used to be his brothers but he moved away and now he just got done reworking the whole car. the front half got stolen so no front struts only the rears FYI he just got done with it and the car is amazing...
simply amazing
so he has no idea on spring rates and most of the writing is worn off or paint chipped off... could i just replace the springs with something i do know the rate of? like some GC coilover springs?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I put Aragosta suspension in the same boat as "Quantum". They're very expensive and and seem to have nice features, but no one seems to use them for racing. To me, that means that they're not all that good.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to hear some proven facts about these systems. Until then, it just seems like they're overhyped due to hearsay.</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.topsecretjpn.com/coilovers.shtml

No hard facts though. Some s2k guys run them but none on the track that I know of. But if its good enough for Top Secret its good enough for me.

 

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Thanks for posting that link.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silver j &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But if its good enough for Top Secret its good enough for me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Has Top Secret ever won any circuit races? I'm not trying to discredit them by any means, but I always thought their specialty was making highway/dyno queens with 1000+ hp.

 

Top Secret Resume:

350Z D1GP 2005 Season competition vehicle

A different 350Z Pike's Peak Hill Climb Competition 2004 2nd and 3rd place finishes

An R34 with a 58.38sec Tsukuba lap Time

An R32 9.87 1/4mile and 328km/h Wangan Run

S15 2004 D1GP Series Champion Car

DC5 Super Taikyu Competition Vehicle

Nissian March March Cup Series Competition Vehicle 2004 Series Champion Cup Winner

This is all on their website...seems like they've only been doing competition racing for a couple years.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid ITR43 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Top Secret Resume:

350Z D1GP 2005 Season competition vehicle

A different 350Z Pike's Peak Hill Climb Competition 2004 2nd and 3rd place finishes

An R34 with a 58.38sec Tsukuba lap Time

An R32 9.87 1/4mile and 328km/h Wangan Run

S15 2004 D1GP Series Champion Car

DC5 Super Taikyu Competition Vehicle

Nissian March March Cup Series Competition Vehicle 2004 Series Champion Cup Winner</TD></TR></TABLE>

Everything except the DC5, R34, and March is unrelated to the kind of track stuff we're doing. Their DC5 and R34 are not the fastest in their respective classes.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid ITR43 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is all on their website...seems like they've only been doing competition racing for a couple years.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's what it seems like. I'm glad to see more tuners (and people) realizing that show queens are a waste of time.

 

so mostly these are ballerstatus coils and not competition level... well they is but not top tier, which is of not matter not like i wont be doing much more than some driving to the store and maybe a lil spirited chicane attacks.
you guys are great, ill post lots of info wheni get them cleaned up and complete the setup and put them on a vehicle

 

FYI i am a huge top secret fan.

 

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If your shocks don't say "Moton", you have not yet reached baller status.

 

"The new Clubsport line is for the serious Club racer and high performance street racer. Bred from our winning racing shocks, the new Clubsport line has the same technology and precise adjustment range that has made us a leader in suspension technology.

The new Clubsport line is a high-tech system, at an affordable price."
affordable price eh?
is that why the application list for "street racers" is
BMW, DODGE(VIPER),FERRARI,MINI,PORSCHE?
baller status indeed... remind me to get some of those Motons when iget my 911 turbo.

 

look at the July issue of modified mag, pg 96, white skyline green wheels, look at the dampers

top secret started racing in 2001
reid i agree with you in that there is no hard evidence or enough race data to show that these dampers are worth it. i'd love to be able to see a shock dyno of an aragosta damper.