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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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WMHM is this coming monday and there is a chance of showers. now i dont believe they will offer a refund or rain check, so is there any advise to running in the rain if it comes to that? i just want to be sure im prepared!! thanxx
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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Running in the rain is loads of fun. Just remember that you have a smaller traction envelope and you'll be fine.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Running in the rain is loads of fun.: </TD></TR></TABLE>


ya its like a dream come true, you get to have a 500whp honda, but imagine it being on some crappy *** all season with no grip. lol
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 07:08 AM
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thanxx for the advice, im sure ill be fine. just have to take most of what i know and flip it.. and it expands my learning curve!
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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You'll find you drive sooooo much faster in the dry, once you run in the rain a few times. I've learned something more about my car and my driving everytime I've run in the rain.

I love the rain for driving. Just not for the wet everything else
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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Running in the rain is very good practice for smoothness and generally minding your p's and q's. It forces you to concentrate on smooth wheel and pedal inputs and that pays benefit when it dries up. It is also good at training your eyes to pay more attention to the surface features, grain, ruts, smoothness, etc. Generally you will find more serious wet grip off the normal polished dry line where tires are normally running and wearing down the surface. This often shows up as a shinier surface with little or no texture or graining. Newer pavements or less worn/polished will be darker or more matte finished and that is where you will find more grip. Expect to do more of your braking in a straigter line instead of turning- the old "friction circle" plays an even sharper role in the wet.

I did a Russell School at Sears Point years ago and the biggest single thing I learned was to read the pavement and to search out fresher and unpolished pavement. It was right after they started repaving for the first NASCAR changes and it was unbeleievable how much more grip the new asphalt additions had than the old stuff. You found yourself driving from one of those spots to the other even if the traditional line wanted you to go elsewhere.

If you have adjustable shocks and sway bars, be prepared to soften those settings the wetter it gets, allowing more body motion and increasing the grip potential on the already grip challenged surface.
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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wow.. lee thank you for your imput. ive been watching the weather.com like a fricken hawk!
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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don't worry - WMHM will be twice as much fun in the rain

you won't be able to go real fast, and your car will be severely traction limited, but it's the slipping and sliding around at relatively low speeds that I like baout lapping in the rain - you lose control at a "safer" speed and can learn how to deal with that without fear of, say, hitting big bend at waterford at 80MPH and careening out into the wall if something goes "funny"
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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Lapping in a light drizzle on Kumho V710s really teaches you to watch the track surface for the driest line and doing really smooth inputs.

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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


ya its like a dream come true, you get to have a 500whp honda, but imagine it being on some crappy *** all season with no grip. lol</TD></TR></TABLE>


What if i'm already comming out with a 500whp honduh??? HAHA, actually running in the rain was pretty fun, i did it at BFR which is a track with no run off room, and had a ball runnind down all the miata guys. One thing i would recomend is stay out of the grass when its wet, you will actually acelerate in the grass which can get kinda scary... Oh man and trail braking in the rain is bad, you'll figure it out real quick. Like mentioned all braking should be done in a straight line, and use momentum to pull you around the turn. Basically brake in a straight line and accelerate in a straight line. Thats just some random crap i learned in the rain.
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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well ive finally learned how to autox fairly well in the rain.. so if need be ill learn monday on the track!
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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The only downside is if you have a nice car with a nice interior it gets trashed from having the windows down.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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lol... my car is not where near nice!
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spock_rocker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WMHM is this coming monday and there is a chance of showers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, there isn't. At least not according to the latest National Weather Service forecast for Van Buren County, Michigan:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NWS Forecast &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Monday...Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 80s.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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Oh crap 80's thats too hot, i'll sleep in my hotel all day.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, there isn't. At least not according to the latest National Weather Service forecast for Van Buren County, Michigan:
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yea it was a little premature. so i guess ill see you up there?!
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spock_rocker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea it was a little premature. so i guess ill see you up there?!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not me, sorry...
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