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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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I bought another 1991 honda civic dx sedan and it needs an engine. I also have a 1989 honda accord se-i that runs, but the body isn't exactly the best. I was thinking about maybe putting the A20 out of the accord into the civic. Would this swap be complicated? What would it take to do such a swap? I can't really afford a B16 and D16s don't seem to exist where i live. What do you guys think?
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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You'd need custom mounts since I don't think there's a mount kit, *shrug*
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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You can't say d16's don't exist in ohio, d16's are everywhere....And by the way, those motors aren't really worth it... There pretty shitty factory motors, the potential is there, but there is literally no aftermarket support for pistons, rods, or anything....plus they're 12 valve, lol
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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eh, i guess you're right. i just haven't looked hard enough for a d16. I was looking to do something alittle out of the ordinary for a change. besides, the swap probably isn't worth the time and effort.
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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maybe the jdm version of the accord motor, the b20a3 i think it is, that one is like 160 hp, that would be a sweet swap
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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where could i find one of those?
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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Unless you have lots of money or can make custom mounts, I don't think those motors are for you.

There are a couple OH guys that seem to have pretty good luck in the JY's.
Old Jul 6, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91DXCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where could i find one of those?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do yourself a favor and let this bad idea fade away...

If you need to get an engine cheap, order a jdm sohc zc or d15b vtec for around $400 from a Cali importer. Or one of the Canadian importers, given your vicinity.

And if you just need to just get the thing on the road with minimal fuss/effort, the sohc zc can reuse all the existing DPFI stuff for a quick and easy swap.
Old Jul 6, 2006 | 01:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nappyroots827 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can't say d16's don't exist in ohio, d16's are everywhere....And by the way, those motors aren't really worth it... There pretty shitty factory motors, the potential is there, but there is literally no aftermarket support for pistons, rods, or anything....plus they're 12 valve, lol</TD></TR></TABLE>say what please tell me you aren't serious
Old Jul 6, 2006 | 03:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NastyHabitzCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">say what please tell me you aren't serious </TD></TR></TABLE>

Why wouldn't I be serious?
Old Jul 6, 2006 | 05:36 AM
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Putting that A20A3 in there would be a nightmare. I will give you my D15 for almost free, just pay shipping. I want it out of my garage.
Old Jul 6, 2006 | 05:52 AM
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I'm a few weeks I'll have a spare D16Y7 with 400xxx+kms on it, free of charge . You can use any 88-91 D series and just use you intake system in your car for a replacement engine. You can pick up a running D15B2 for less then 100$ for a block and head.
Old Jul 6, 2006 | 06:49 AM
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If the SE-i is a 2 door with tan interior, sell it to me, and by a D16.

BTW There is aftermarket support for internals for A20A3.

B20A3 are very hard to find, and even harder to find manual trans.

D's are every where. Not sure how you can not find one.
Old Jul 6, 2006 | 06:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nappyroots827 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can't say d16's don't exist in ohio, d16's are everywhere....And by the way, those motors aren't really worth it... There pretty shitty factory motors, the potential is there, but there is literally no aftermarket support for pistons, rods, or anything....plus they're 12 valve, lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

They're only 3 cylinders?
Old Jul 6, 2006 | 07:25 AM
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No...3 valves per cylinder.
Old Jul 6, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davens &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No...3 valves per cylinder. </TD></TR></TABLE>

OT: The CVCC Accords and Civics were all 12 valves too. Old school technology. Old school for Honda anyway, Ford's new "Triton" V8 now has 3 valves per cylinder in 2006. "Revolutionary" as they say. That would have been true 30+ years ago.

I'd just daily drive the Accord and find a new D series for the Civic.
Old Jul 6, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91DXCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I bought another 1991 honda civic dx sedan and it needs an engine. I also have a 1989 honda accord se-i that runs, but the body isn't exactly the best. I was thinking about maybe putting the A20 out of the accord into the civic. Would this swap be complicated? What would it take to do such a swap? I can't really afford a B16 and D16s don't seem to exist where i live. What do you guys think?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dude I'm 2 hours away, I can get you all of the D16's you can handle. A20s are crap.
Old Jul 6, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXBart &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Dude I'm 2 hours away, I can get you all of the D16's you can handle. A20s are crap. </TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed!

a20a3 are 122hp. if u can get y8 or an a6 u will be good.
Old Jul 7, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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now that this topic gets brought up....i really wanna build the crap outa one of those motors just to see what they can do, i bet they'd make a sick *** turbo setup, cast iron semi closed block....mmm nothing says boost me more than that haha....sorry just daydreaming didn't mean to thread jack
Old Jul 8, 2006 | 04:14 AM
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 06:53 AM
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blah, my sister had that motor in here accord and it was nightmare.
Old Jul 8, 2006 | 07:45 AM
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Cast iron block . Only good part about them, tough blocks.
Old Jul 8, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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Somebody around here took that motor into the low 10s maybe even 9s?, with N20 and boost. There was as a fabrication thread about him making an adapter plate so he could run a different tranny. His setup was SICK. If you really want to be different, then find an F22 and get bisi's F-D series tranny adapter and make your own mounts and throw some boost at it. That would be sweet! $$$ lol. Anything can be done with enough $, but in the end you might be asking yourself if it was really worth it. Good luck.

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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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this was done a long time a go they put 2 of those accord motors in the crx one in the front and one in the back, an old book I have has pics of that setup
Old Aug 7, 2023 | 06:48 PM
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My 86 CRX with A20A3 swap runs 12.9 at 106 spinning to 7500 and never breaks anything. The 86-87 Prelude/Accord motors and transaxles are fine. You can keep all those little D series engines.
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