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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 06:48 AM
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Hey guys, I am currently getting ready to install a turbo system in my 95 Prelude and was wondering if anyone has installed a turbo system in their car and ran it for a bit then turnaround and remove the ac system? If so was their a significant gain in performance in doing so? I wanted to know if it is worth getting rid of the a/c? I figured theoretically you would get better airflow to the radiator (stay cooler), remove some wight (figured conservatively about 60 lbs.) and drag on the crank (only when running I know, but only very minimal when not). If any of you guys also have tips on installing the turbo any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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i wanna turbo my 95 too, but i honestly can't live without AC.
i wanna do the civic half-radiator, and battery relocation, and hopefully that'll gimme enough room for the turbo 'n ****.

theoretically even taking the belt for AC off should give you some power, let alone taking the entire system out
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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So what turbo system are you going to install?
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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it wont gain much. But every little bit counts and the weight savings is pretty good. Especially if you strip EVERYTHING ac related.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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I got the turbo kit from http://www.ssautochrome.com/level.itml/icOid/1691. Just for something to try out. Supposedly you don't have to remove the a/c, but we will see. The kit is supposed to come in the mail tomorrow. If anyone is interested I could keep them up dated of how it goes.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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thats prolly the worst investment you ever made. period.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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you get a similar gain in power from turning th ac off as you do fromr emoving it.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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xspower is junk.....
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Well this may not be the best, but I am gonna give it run and try out a few things before I want to shell out $3400 on known name brand kit. I know the the $3400 kits are worth what you pay for, but a friend and I are going to experiment with this and maybe do a few mods or upgrades to see what works and why it works. Everything is trial and error. I like to get my hands dirty and learn details. I appreciate your input!
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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ssautocrome has already been tested to be shitty. Be prepared for the manifold to crack amongst other problems.

should have done your research before you wasted your money on something even worse than obx.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats prolly the worst investment you ever made. period. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I whole heartedly agree...ssautocrap is well crap get ready for the manifold to crack, the seals in the turbo to take a ****..and most likely your motor also...for 1000 bucks that is almost half the amount of a good setup like at least a decent turbo manifold and a SC61....shame shame shame
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 04:35 AM
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I tell you what, since all you have is negative stuff to say why don't you give a person more insight as to your experience why you think it's so bad. If the manifold cracks that makes it crap? So then just buy a $400 manifold and all is good? Give me more details, not insults!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ssautocrome has already been tested to be shitty. Be prepared for the manifold to crack amongst other problems.
should have done your research before you wasted your money on something even worse than obx.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What is obx?
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 04:47 AM
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DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

stop being lazy. Click the red icon in to the top right. Search archives and recent threads for ssautochrome. Especially search in the forced induction forum. We are not here to hold your hand.

OBX are products that are copied and sent to taiwan to be produced cheaper, then sold in the US/everywhere for cheap.

basically.....cheap product that doesnt hurt your wallet, until it ***** up. Which is likely.
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 04:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I got the CD5 Jeebies! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I whole heartedly agree...ssautocrap is well crap get ready for the manifold to crack, the seals in the turbo to take a ****..and most likely your motor also...for 1000 bucks that is almost half the amount of a good setup like at least a decent turbo manifold and a SC61....shame shame shame</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well all I can say is I am new in the prelude aftermarket hop-up section and this is basically my first take on one with this car, before the farthest extent I went to was an K/N aircleaner LOL! I only know of a few brands of turbos. Do you have links to some good setups tha I could check out?
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 04:53 AM
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since you are new to pretty much anything prelude, i'll direct you to our FAQ section which holds some of the most informative threads:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=689805



searching shall set you free of newbiedom
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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Oh, man I got a bad feeling as soon as I saw 'getting ready to install a turbo system', that's why I had to ask which 'turbo system'.

Sadly that SS Autochrome is a POS like everyone has said. It probably won't fit well neither will it last very long. You can certainly try it out, but when things start to f*ck up, you'll be in a worse spot than before. The best things to do if you want to turbo a Prelude is to do a LOT of research and piece together a kit yourself with quality parts.
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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Well going off a friends decision and help, we decided we would start off with this turbo system and go from there since it was complete. If the turbo goes I will get a new one (better), manifold cracks I will get a new one, blow off doesn't I will replace it and etc. This is just a start not an end. Man and all I was asking was differnces in performance with or without the a/c system LOL. Nobody likes to hear it sucks without a good reason/details to support it, but that is what you get from the internet. I have read a few articles on this system and some say it is fine, but everyone is entitled to an opinion. I take no offense! I also thought the FAQ section was about posting in the forums, but it was the opposite, very informative!
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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You have a very good attitude and I wish you luck. It would be funny to make a progress thread and just keep track of the different things that go wrong with SSAutocrap kit.

Check out the Forced Induction forum here on Honda-tech or better yet, do a search for SS Autochrome/XS Power in there and you'll be amazed.
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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removing my ac netted me like 439 whp. it was awesome!!!! turn the damn thing off man. it probably takes 1/2 hp to turn the pully. oooh look at me i gained 1/4 a whp by removing my ac. if you know how the compressor and clutch work then you wouldnt ask such a dumb question.
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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ssauto crud? ah jeese... i'm glad you say you'll replace whatever fails. just remember that.
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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i'm thinking with the astounding wealth of knowledge brought to us by the OP that we will soon see a posting that may look like this, "Just installed the XS power turbo kit and now having engine problems please help."
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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Alright after today I have to agree this kit has not been very successful. Now I have to fight to get my money back from all the over expected mods. Sorry I guys I try not to read into things and figure for myself, but you guys made a good call on this kit being crap. I won't discuss issues, but I will say this a FMAX Turbonetics kit is looking real good right now for all the stuff you get!
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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why don;t you listen and just build your own kit?? okay Im done
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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im interested in what exactly went wrong with the kit!
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DAHOTTESTLUDE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im interested in what exactly went wrong with the kit! </TD></TR></TABLE>

it fell apart.
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