how good will a b16 head work on a b18c1? i heard its called the "mini type-r motor...lol" and if the b16 head is jdm and the b18c1 block is usdm will it pass smog?

 

it is called a poor-mans type r

it will work and is a common swap

is should pass smog with a stock gsr ecu

 

it really is a poor mans type-r. I also have a 96 spec itr ecu........if i put that on and rev to 8500 i should be fine right? and also will the 96 spec itr ecu pass smog? also after i slap on the b16 head will i need to get valve adjustment and a dyno tune?

 

the 96 itr ecu will not pass CA smog

you should go with a chiped and socketed p28 ecu and get some dyno tuning done

it is always a good idea to do adjustments are parts you prchase from private sellers

for smog just throw the stock gsr ecu back in and you should be fine

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC2 Mang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the 96 itr ecu will not pass CA smog

you should go with a chiped and socketed p28 ecu and get some dyno tuning done

it is always a good idea to do adjustments are parts you prchase from private sellers

for smog just throw the stock gsr ecu back in and you should be fine</TD></TR></TABLE>


thanks will the car even be faster? like what hp should it be around with this setup w/ p28 chipped ecu? and also will the p28 chipped ecu on my stock gsr ecu pass smog?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc2rtek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks will the car even be faster? like what hp should it be around with this setup w/ p28 chipped ecu? and also will the p28 chipped ecu on my stock gsr ecu pass smog?</TD></TR></TABLE>
use the search button and type in "Poor mans type R" but to answer your question no it wont be faster. you will lose some compression by just dropping in a 1.6 head on a 1.8 block.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC2SIR-G &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">use the search button and type in "Poor mans type R" but to answer your question no it wont be faster. you will lose some compression by just dropping in a 1.6 head on a 1.8 block. </TD></TR></TABLE>

how about you use the search button and search what im looking for and come back to my thread and answer my questions. how does that sound?

 

suck my dicck and ill do it for ya

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC2SIR-G &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">suck my dicck and ill do it for ya </TD></TR></TABLE>
HAHAHAHAHA! LOL!

 

Damn! People always want to be spoon feed....

 

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thanks will the car even be faster? like what hp should it be around with this setup w/ p28 chipped ecu? and also will the p28 chipped ecu on my stock gsr ecu pass smog?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the car wont be faster with a fully stock head because you are losing compression but with a P&P and some other head work it will be of course

most people do it because supposedly the stock B16 head flows better than the stock GSR but the stock GSR flows more air

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_bones &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn! People always want to be spoon feed.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I believe this whole website was created to spread and share knowledge about hondas, it doesnt hurt to explain things to help them understand rather than get upset and tell them to seach

im sure everyone has been in a situation where they needed an answer quickly, rather than have to read through the acrchives searching for a direct answer to their problem no matter how simple of complicated it was

not trying to be a dick but it does hurt to help other people is all that im saying

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC2 Mang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe this whole website was created to spread and share knowledge about hondas, it doesnt hurt to explain things to help them understand rather than get upset and tell them to seach</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

lol i was going to make a thread of my own with exact same question...my friend told me to get rid of my head and swap in a head from the b16a2, and get the jdm itr pistons...

my friend has a clean set up, he has a b18c5 and the valve color is black...i think he might of changed his head to the b16...it sounds wierd but he's doing 12's all motor

so what do you guys think?....changing my head to the b16a2?...but i also heard that the stock gsr has bigger valves. damn all this **** is confusing

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_violator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol i was going to make a thread of my own with exact same question...my friend told me to get rid of my head and swap in a head from the b16a2, and get the jdm itr pistons...

my friend has a clean set up, he has a b18c5 and the valve color is black...i think he might of changed his head to the b16...it sounds wierd but he's doing 12's all motor

so what do you guys think?....changing my head to the b16a2?...but i also heard that the stock gsr has bigger valves. damn all this **** is confusing</TD></TR></TABLE>


im sticking to jdm b16 head since its cheaper, but im going to be using civic type-r cams so hopefully nothing will go wrong.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_violator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">\my friend has a clean set up, he has a b18c5 and the valve color is black...i think he might of changed his head to the b16...it sounds wierd but he's doing 12's all motor

so what do you guys think?....changing my head to the b16a2?...but i also heard that the stock gsr has bigger valves. damn all this **** is confusing</TD></TR></TABLE>

the ITR head is the same cast as the B16 heads, it just comes with a port and polish from honda

the B16 head has the same size vavles as the GSR, all vtec heads share the same intenal part composition so they are all interchangeable with eachother

if you have the money port and polish your GSR head and it will out flow the b16 head in air flow characteristics and volume of air

 

if you're going to port and polish the head, there's really no point in swapping in a b16 head. b16 head does flow a little better but it's not really that big of a difference.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aeon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you're going to port and polish the head, there's really no point in swapping in a b16 head. b16 head does flow a little better but it's not really that big of a difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>

even with ctr cams and pistons and p28 chip?

 

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the ITR head is the same cast as the B16 heads, it just comes with a port and polish from honda

the B16 head has the same size vavles as the GSR, all vtec heads share the same intenal part composition so they are all interchangeable with eachother

if you have the money port and polish your GSR head and it will out flow the b16 head in air flow characteristics and volume of air </TD></TR></TABLE>

so your saying that the b16 and the itr are alike?..wow thats cool to now, i didnt know that, and they come port and polished?...some guy is charging me 130 bucks to port and polish my head...i might as well do that...will it raise my compression?. drop my compression?....my compression is at 13 so i dont want to go more than that

 

Don't go with the b16 head sell it if you can, itll bring your compression lower, save up and get the GSR or ITR head and port and polish it from there, or else you'll be building your b16 head to gsr/itr spec. thats just my .02
"Theres no replacement for displacement!!"

 

if you have a b18c5? so you got a type r head? use it cuz type r come with port and polish already.. dont listen to your friend.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egg6vtak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't go with the b16 head sell it if you can, itll bring your compression lower, save up and get the GSR or ITR head and port and polish it from there, or else you'll be building your b16 head to gsr/itr spec. thats just my .02
"Theres no replacement for displacement!!"</TD></TR></TABLE>


ok my car is a gsr right now.

 

do valvetrain work, port polish, retainers, valve springs, race valves, cams, cam gears, ITR pistons, bolt-ons, upgrade fuel system and u gotta ITR killer

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egg6vtak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't go with the b16 head sell it if you can, itll bring your compression lower, save up and get the GSR or ITR head and port and polish it from there, or else you'll be building your b16 head to gsr/itr spec. thats just my .02
"Theres no replacement for displacement!!"</TD></TR></TABLE>

The ITR head will bring your compression down as well because it is the same exact cast as the b16.......

to compensate for the lower compression (which is only a loss of around .2) you can mill the head so that it will once again raise the compression

ITR and GSR heads were made from different casts so they have different flow patterns, and any P&P from a compitent machinist will be superior than the itr port and polish from the factory

all the itr head is, is a ported and polished b16 head with better valvetrain and cams

if you have a gsr head stick with it, P&P with after market valvetrain and cams and you will not regret it, stock block or not you will see power gains far over stock after tuning