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6th Gen. 1999 Accord F23 OBD II - Questions on Cat. o2 sensor and 450cc Injectors

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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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Default 6th Gen. 1999 Accord F23 OBD II - Questions on Cat. o2 sensor and 450cc Injectors

Hola hombres!

60% complete turbo kit build.
Still need: DSM 450cc injectors, F23 Manifold, Downpipe and Flange, AFC

Working on welding exhaust system from cat to muffler.

Question on O2 Sensor for the Cat.
I was wandering if anyone knows how to bypass the o2 sensor on the catalytic converter. If the o2 sensor reads anything out of threshold, then i get a CEL and my idle gets really bad.

What are some solutions for tricking my obd II ecu into thinking that the cat's o2 sensor is within threshold? I have read about o2 simulators, but that is still a confusing topic.

Question about Bigger Injectors and AFC's
I have learned that the 5th gen accords require a resistor box...Does the 6th gen, obd II accords Also require a Resistor Box if using 450cc dsm injectors? Or do I have one built in?

Also, will the Apexi SAFC (not SAFC II) be sufficient? How do I "Tune" it? I went to apexi's site but didnt find good info.

Question about F23 Manifold
Anyone willing to custom fab me a Log Manifold for $200 shipped?
I am using a t3/t04e hybrid...cheap china turbo, but rebuilding and balancing it at buddy's shop. Also, i have a Greddy
thanks in advance all!
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Default Re: 6th Gen. 1999 Accord F23 OBD II - Questions on Cat. o2 sensor and 450cc Injectors (ykwak)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ykwak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Question on O2 Sensor for the Cat.
I was wandering if anyone knows how to bypass the o2 sensor on the catalytic converter. If the o2 sensor reads anything out of threshold, then i get a CEL and my idle gets really bad.

What are some solutions for tricking my obd II ecu into thinking that the cat's o2 sensor is within threshold? I have read about o2 simulators, but that is still a confusing topic.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mechanical or electrical O2 simulators are pretty much going to be the only way. You could always use a high-flow cat so that you don't have to worry about it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ykwak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, will the Apexi SAFC (not SAFC II) be sufficient? How do I "Tune" it? I went to apexi's site but didnt find good info.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can use the SAFC to control everything, but I don't recommend it. Look up "AFC hack" in the archives for more info. You might want to look into the E-manage systems as a better alternative. That way you'll have better tuning options, yet still keep the OBD2 ecu (if that's what you're worried about). My personal choice would be the AEM EMS standalone unit.

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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 06:58 AM
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thanks so much guys!

oh, and as for the balancing the shaft of the turbo...

its really not that necessary, but a buddy of mine owes me some rounds for computer repairs that i have done in the past.

thanks a lot everyone!
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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lol.

nice touch with the "ending" : )

no worries gentlemen, fortunately, this shop rebuilds turbos here in georgia, so it's all good.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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oh, and Mr. Wanderful.

If you do some proper research, you will see that most turbos dont come "balanced". The primary reason for balancing turbos, in today's term, is to fine tune the sound of the turbo. The "thresh-hold" of machining these turbo parts are quite small now, and unit production is quite consistent as opposed to 15 years ago.

Oh, and this comes from Gregg at Garrett, Inc.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 02:35 AM
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Default Re: 6th Gen. 1999 Accord F23 OBD II - Questions on Cat. o2 sensor and 450cc Injectors (Mr Wonderfull

BWAHHH HHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA you first turbo was made in china fat boy!!!! lasted what??? 5-10 mins??????? ha to the OP go big or stay home ya dig??? your biggest worry my friend is a proper engine management...spend the money to convert to OBD 1 or get teh PowerFC stand alone........a blown turbo is alot better than a blown motor...right Mr. Wonderfull??? BWAHH HAHAHAHA
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