Help me build my girl's GSR... All Motor + Nitrous :P

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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 12:46 PM
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Default Help me build my girl's GSR... All Motor + Nitrous :P

My girl wants a teg, we found one for a good deal, but it needs some work. The motor of this car was hydrolocked and needs at least, new rods. I figured, since I would already be taking apart the bottom end, might as well upgrade !

The intent is to have a good, powerful all motor car, reliable with a small shot of nitrous in the future. Her budget is not ulimited, so I have a preliminary parts list I'll post, if you think it's da bomb, lemme know... if you have suggestions... make 'em !

BTW, as far as raised compression... the original radiator went, blew headgasket, hydrolock... the head will prolly need some milling, but not sure how much yet, so keep that in mind with piston choice.

The list:

Milled stock gsr head
Eagle rods
ARP rod bolts
ARP head studs (do I need 'em ?)
JG blockguard
MSD 6a, w/ blaster
8.5mm magnecors
AEM CAI
AEM aluminum pulleys
DC sport 4-1 header
Custom Miami muffler mandrel bend 2.5, gutted cat, to Apex-i N1
New all aluminum generic radiator
Stock head gasket

I can't remember what else right now... but I am having a hard time choosing a piston... I called race engineering in Lake Worth, FL and they can get me a set of SRP 10.5:1 pistons (he recommended a max 100 shot on these !?) and eagles for a good price, but I really would prefer to go with JE if I go aftermarket pistons.

Race engineering told me JE does not make an 11.5:1 compression piston off the shelf, it would have to be custom. Is this true ? Why would I spend the flow on a 10.5:1 srp if stock compression is so close to that ??? RE also did not recommend a Ross or Wiseco piston, which they carry.
Given these options, I would prefer to go with a stock B16 piston for approach 11.5:1, but would be worried about the stocker under spray. (hoping for a 75 shot dry) Granted she will typically only spray at the track, but this is gonna be my woman's daily driver and I don't want to tear it down anytime soon after I rebuild !

So please give opinoins... especially on piston choice as this is one area that I do not have a definite mindset.

Thanks guys !
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 01:12 PM
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considered the endyn RW pistons? if time is an issue, they are great; also a fairly wide range of B18 pistons available - 11.2:1 - 13.0:1......

any idea why RE wasn't down with wiseco? (endyns start out life as wisecos....)
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 01:21 PM
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Yeah, I know the Edyne Wiseco relationship... but I don't know why he didn't recommend them.... maybe he had a special price on the SRPs, but damn... I want quality... if I can't get it aftermarket, I'll stick with Honda pistons !

Any opinions on running the B16s in the GSR block ?

Will those pistons take a 75 shot with the right fuel maps and spark ? I can get them brand new for about $150 cheeper than the SRPs anyways !
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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If your milling the head....wouldn't the compression be higher than 10.5:1 anyway? Won't a good clean-up bump it 0.2-0.3? Add a 2 layer gasket and you gain another 0.2-0.3 for 11-11.1 compression. Just a thought...
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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Here is what I would delete from "The list:"

JG blockguard
MSD 6a, w/ blaster
8.5mm magnecors
AEM aluminum pulleys
DC sport 4-1 header
Custom Miami muffler mandrel bend 2.5, gutted cat, to Apex-i N1

this is just what I wouldn't buy.. I don't know your girl, but I know alot of girls who don't like it when every other car trys to start a race with them.. Id keep it a sleeper, and for some reason thinking about a girl driving a sleeper nitrous integra is really cool..

id ditch the block gaurd cause I don't really see what u r doing with it.. Its not going to do anything to prevent detonation and I don't think your gonna have enough power to really stress the cylinder walls too much.. the ignition, I think stock honda ignitions are pretty good but if u could get something that can adjust timing on/off nitrous that would be sweet.. not sure if the MSD does that.. do wires really matter that much? stock wont work? i dont know much about nitrous set ups.. the pullys- for the power u get they just dont seem worth the hassle, they just seem like another thing that can go wrong.. think what else u could use that money on.. headers, Ive never really seen much of a gain from stock-aftermarked headers, not enough to make me think its worth the money.. once again, think whereelse u could spend that money.. Id definitly do a custom 2.5" exhaust set up and cut the cat but id probably cap it off with an ITR muffler, something that wont attract to much attention.. keep it sleeper.. plus cheaper.. Now take the extra money u have left over and go get some toda B's and maybe a skunk2 IM or sumthin..

just my opinion but if I were building an all motor nitrous integra thats basically what id do.. pop the hood- "Oh, I only have intake "


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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 03:00 PM
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I would also magaflux (sp?) the block to make sure a sleave is not damaged. A friend bought a block that was hydro locked and the bent rod cracked the sleave. So sleaves might have to be on the shopping list.


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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 05:10 AM
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Here is what I would delete from "The list:"

JG blockguard
MSD 6a, w/ blaster
8.5mm magnecors
AEM aluminum pulleys
DC sport 4-1 header
Custom Miami muffler mandrel bend 2.5, gutted cat, to Apex-i N1......Id definitly do a custom 2.5" exhaust set up and cut the cat but id probably cap it off with an ITR muffler...

I have an Apex-N1 and the GSR aem pulley set just lying around, no prob...but I am running the typeR muffler... maybe I'll use the N1 and give her my R....

...id ditch the block gaurd cause I don't really see what u r doing with it.. Its not going to do anything to prevent detonation and I don't think your gonna have enough power to really stress the cylinder walls too much...
I figured using a blockguard as an insurance policy... I mean it going to be higher than stock compression on a GSR motor with a 75 shot. No? That's my logic.

....something that can adjust timing on/off nitrous that would be sweet.. not sure if the MSD does that..
No, I don't know of an MSD that does that with N20, but she will be getting a progressive kit with N20 computer, when she does get it.

Ive never really seen much of a gain from stock-aftermarked headers, not enough to make me think its worth the money..
R U kidding ? This is an all motor car ! A DC 4-1 would help some, ESPECIALLY under spray !

... I don't know your girl, but I know alot of girls who don't like it when every other car trys to start a race with them...
You're right... you don't know my girl... MU HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !

As far as the MSD, any other opinions on the ignition ? I know that the stock Honda ignition is great, but will it be able to keep up with a motor built this way ? I saw that Endyn makes higher comp pistons and will look into them... maybe an 11.5 or 12:1... would that call for an MSD yet ??

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