Does anyone have experience building a all motor b18b engine? I want to see how much fun and power can be made using a non-vtech b series.

 

you should find alot in fi forum. built b18 usualy go best with boost

 

Id rather not go turbo. This integra is my daily driver that im building for comfort and relaibilty. I want to rebuild the entire motor to safly rev to 8000rpm and back. So I want to use ITR pistons, crower rods( I read the stock rods are adequate but why not), extrude honed manifold, ported head, crower 260 or 270 camshafts and valve train, then finally have it blue printed. Ill wait for turbo when I build a s13 or s14 nissan.

 

Do an LS/V.

 

why you want to built your motor? no boost, no vtec.

safe the money and make it look nice or something.. no point of building ls motor without having vtec or boost. wouldnt make that much power with all the money you will put in.

 

get some good bolt ons, with some crower 404's and some p30's and you should be around 170 whp

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by trick_db &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why you want to built your motor? no boost, no vtec.

safe the money and make it look nice or something.. no point of building ls motor without having vtec or boost. wouldnt make that much power with all the money you will put in.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lets try to keep this kind of ignorance to a minimum...man i wish some of these ppl were local i know more than a few b18b's that would make you question your title on your gsr...

 

for all the work your doing all motor LS, you could simply slap a vtec head and be equally or faster,

ls block, ctr pistons gsr head, it will be pretty fast,

just trying to save you from spending thousands of dollars down the drain.,

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilverDc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for all the work your doing all motor LS, you could simply slap a vtec head and be equally or faster,

ls block, ctr pistons gsr head, it will be pretty fast,

just trying to save you from spending thousands of dollars down the drain.,</TD></TR></TABLE>
thousands?? do you know what youre talking about?? have you attempted an ls build?? b16 pistons are DIRT DIRT cheap..and bump the compression UP by a good amount...and crower cams can be had cheaper than some vtec cams....id go check prices before you spew anything like that

 

It doesn't cost much at all to build the B18A/B, the cams are much cheaper than the vtec counterparts and B16 pistons can be had cheap as well. With some tuning and some bolt-ons the car is a blast to drive, torque comes on early as well.

Reread the title to this thread and offer help if possible, there is no mention of turbo or vtec plans. I actually like lsvtecs and turbos, but that isn't the question being asked.

The biggest expense in running a B18A/B is swapping out the long geared tranny for a short geared one.

If you want to build your B18A/B, go to nonvtec.com where the people there aren't telling you what can't be done, but show you nice power made for cheap.

 

Damn, the poster before me just beat me to the punch. Nice post.

 

Seems pointless to me also unless your gonna boost it.All the money you spend on a built ls you could have a lsvtec thats faster.

 

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all the money spent on your honda you coulda had a v8 that was faster...see where im going with this?? its obviously not about that..

 

Man, you must not be able to read, the vtec head and conversion kit is more than twice the cost of pistons and cams building the ls. Then you have to spend another 500plus on cams. Your ignorance is astounding.

Stock ls has about 120 whp. With pistons $60, cams $200, I, H, E, and tuning you have 170whp. Yep, those are ITR numbers and more torque for dirt cheap.

LSVTEC, the head runs 5 bills, the conversion kit runs 225, the cams 5 bills, and you still need I, H, E and tuning with a new ECU for vtec. Are you catching on yet? And yes the LSVTEC will wipe the build LS's ***, but that isn't the criteria in this thread.

Is it impossible to answer the question asked, or do you have to make every thread about your all powerful vtec build.

 

you guys are geting off topic here. this isnt a battle ls vs. ls/v or vs. v8 like some weirdo said. and to the op your o nthe right track. b16 pistons would probably bump the compression more than itr but that would kill gas mileage for daily driving. my buddy built a ls with crower 404s. no problems ao far with like 1k+ miles. and the ls head is a horrible breather a p&p would help alot along with a new i.m and perhaps a bored tb. just my .2 cents

 

http://www.tuneruniversity.com...?f=41

 

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all the money spent on your honda you coulda had a v8 that was faster...see where im going with this?? its obviously not about that..</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1337whp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you guys are geting off topic here. this isnt a battle ls vs. ls/v or vs. v8 like some weirdo said. and to the op your o nthe right track. b16 pistons would probably bump the compression more than itr but that would kill gas mileage for daily driving. my buddy built a ls with crower 404s. no problems ao far with like 1k+ miles. and the ls head is a horrible breather a p&p would help alot along with a new i.m and perhaps a bored tb. just my .2 cents</TD></TR></TABLE>

read harder next time....

 

i beat gsr's with my ls all day. all i got is a aem cai, dc 4-1 header with the bottom two primarys crushed, spoon exhaust, 7.8lb flywheel, exedy clutch, and a jdm b16 lsd trans.

to the o.p. get a new tranny and your car will be a whole new beast

 

So , are all b series tranmissions interchangable?

 

nonvtec.com, honda-tech is a great website but unless your boosting ppl aint going to give you too many positive responses about an LS all motor, but yea some 404s some High comp pistons; http://www.tuneruniversity.com...=1723

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by trick_db &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why you want to built your motor? no boost, no vtec.

safe the money and make it look nice or something.. no point of building ls motor without having vtec or boost. wouldnt make that much power with all the money you will put in.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Its deffinently possible to make good power and fun on engines without variable cam timing and lift control or forced induction. I'll personally take a built AE86 and rev to 10,000rpm anyday over any model Honda. Plus, why would I want to "safe the money" anyway? hahaha

 

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LSv is unrealiable witch sould be stressed WITH EVERYDAY DRIVERS witch he said and insalation isnt free unless you plan on doing it urslef a couple boltons cai-nice air filter witch also makes it fun to drives and sounds cool i/h/e cams/excetera You will **** on GSR's

 

^^ Explain how the Golden Eagle LS-V kit is unreliable. Its also something lots of people can do them selves.

 

why would you want to spend the time building a motor with no boost or vtec and have it go in a heavery integra??
all motor integra's making 200whp are already preatty slow enought as it is how much power you going to expect building a b18b? like 180whp max? and what kind of 1/4 mile time or what kinf of cars can you beat with that?? nothing


Modified by riceball777 at 12:58 PM 7/2/2006

 

my LS integra weighs 2460 lbs, an even 2600 with me driving, with very minimal weight reduction.. i still have AC even.. i really dont think integras are that 'heavery'. This guy said hes just looking to make his daily driver faster, i dont understand why everyone has to be trying to build a 12 second race car.