Who here has a stock bottom end over 300WHP? How long are they lasting?
To anyone that has a stock bottom end over 300WHP, how long did they last, or how long have they lasted you?
bone stock b16a2. made 333whp at 13psi and probably close to 350 when i turned it to 14psi. it lasted 5 months daily driven until a ringland or 2 gave out. very moderatly beating on it
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would venture a guess there are at least a 1000 people making over 300 hp reliably on everything except D series...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Stock block.
Stock block.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> 300 hp is very commonplace these days.
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Yepper. 300whp on OE B,H, K and F series shortblocks is the norm these days and with all of the tuning options (DIY and Tuners) a reliability issue shouldn't be a problem. 99B16Si busted ringlands due to a tuning issue not the horsepower limitation of the OE parts.
nonvtecD,
Look for my 300whp stock block SOHC thread soon
Phil
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Yepper. 300whp on OE B,H, K and F series shortblocks is the norm these days and with all of the tuning options (DIY and Tuners) a reliability issue shouldn't be a problem. 99B16Si busted ringlands due to a tuning issue not the horsepower limitation of the OE parts.
nonvtecD,
Look for my 300whp stock block SOHC thread soon
Phil
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You will soon
. OEM D16Y7 shortblock w/ 100K mi.
Phil
You will soon
. OEM D16Y7 shortblock w/ 100K mi.
Phil
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Haha - That's my first B16 in that car
I will probly be there too. If you don't make at least 350WHP on my stock block, i'm gonna be pissed at you
</TD></TR></TABLE>Haha - That's my first B16 in that car
I will probly be there too. If you don't make at least 350WHP on my stock block, i'm gonna be pissed at you
JAMES you will be there...lol... I got to get bryans car ready tomorrow night and put my altnator on. I made 330whp on stock b16.. lasted over a year.. You know the story..muhaaaaa
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Those two phrases don't belong in the same sentence.
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Those two phrases don't belong in the same sentence.
i think it honestly depends on the motor and what shape its in pre-boost. I had a stock gsr last one day before ringlands cracked and had a stock b16a on 20 psi (sc61) last about 6 months.
Bone stock b18c1, second setup, third turbo, 59,2xx miles, has been making 300+ since last September. I don't get on it that much, but do enjoy it at the track. Currently, I'm a hair below 330 whp.
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It's been done, for awhile now
http://forums.evans-tuning.com...=2860
http://www.epictuning.com/91civicsi.html
It's Craig's from Epic-Tuning. I know it went 11.8 and is daily driven
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It's been done, for awhile now
http://forums.evans-tuning.com...=2860
http://www.epictuning.com/91civicsi.html
It's Craig's from Epic-Tuning. I know it went 11.8 and is daily driven
I find this rather odd - standards for a stock-block B-series is much different than a D-series.
If the 300whp stock B-series lasts 6 months, its not an issue. Mission accomplished. If a 250whp D-series lasts 6 months, its a piece of **** and the owner deserves to get his ***** cut off. What I like even more is the low-hp stock d16's are making more torque than even some built B-series.
I shouldn't be surprised though, its a well-documented phenomenon - its called the H-T Bandwagon Effect.
lol
If the 300whp stock B-series lasts 6 months, its not an issue. Mission accomplished. If a 250whp D-series lasts 6 months, its a piece of **** and the owner deserves to get his ***** cut off. What I like even more is the low-hp stock d16's are making more torque than even some built B-series.
I shouldn't be surprised though, its a well-documented phenomenon - its called the H-T Bandwagon Effect.
lol
300+hp honda drivers......Are you guys running the boost that makes 300+ hp every day or are you turning it down and then turning it up for the track??
If that makes any sense
If that makes any sense
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If that makes any sense</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm interested in this too
If that makes any sense</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm interested in this too
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It's been done, for awhile now
http://forums.evans-tuning.com...=2860
http://www.epictuning.com/91civicsi.html
It's Craig's from Epic-Tuning. I know it went 11.8 and is daily driven
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Hell yeah, Jeff did a great job w/ the car and I saw it run @ E-town(I could have swore it went like 11.6x)
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However, my goal is 309whp
It's been done, for awhile now
http://forums.evans-tuning.com...=2860
http://www.epictuning.com/91civicsi.html
It's Craig's from Epic-Tuning. I know it went 11.8 and is daily driven
</TD></TR></TABLE>Hell yeah, Jeff did a great job w/ the car and I saw it run @ E-town(I could have swore it went like 11.6x)
. However, my goal is 309whp
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Those two phrases don't belong in the same sentence.
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*sigh*
Tuning doesn't consist of waving a magic wand, how many LS's have we seen turn sleeves into shrapnel now?? It's inevitable, you push an OEM application to extremes, stuff will break ..eventually.
Those two phrases don't belong in the same sentence.
</TD></TR></TABLE>*sigh*
Tuning doesn't consist of waving a magic wand, how many LS's have we seen turn sleeves into shrapnel now?? It's inevitable, you push an OEM application to extremes, stuff will break ..eventually.
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If that makes any sense</TD></TR></TABLE>
300+ WHP out of a daily driven Honda is not that uncommon. My H22 set up with 8 psi has got to be around 300 WHP, just haven't had time to get it dynoed. No boost controller here, so I'm running that everyday. I did have it tuned using Uberdata. It has a fairly conservative tune in it now which I hope increases it's reliability.
If that makes any sense</TD></TR></TABLE>
300+ WHP out of a daily driven Honda is not that uncommon. My H22 set up with 8 psi has got to be around 300 WHP, just haven't had time to get it dynoed. No boost controller here, so I'm running that everyday. I did have it tuned using Uberdata. It has a fairly conservative tune in it now which I hope increases it's reliability.
I've got one customer with a 100% stock 94 B18C1, Drag 3 kit installed over 3.5 years ago, motor now has 240K on it. 265ish whp.
AEM EMS, daily driver...
AEM EMS, daily driver...
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You will soon
. OEM D16Y7 shortblock w/ 100K mi.
Phil</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey Phil, this wouldnt happen to be the motor I sold you a little while back, would it??
You will soon
. OEM D16Y7 shortblock w/ 100K mi.
Phil</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey Phil, this wouldnt happen to be the motor I sold you a little while back, would it??



