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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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i have a 92 prelude si with over 160k on it, planning to swap it with the h22 to get more hp and something with less miles on it. any suggestions?
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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0.10L of more displacement?

Honestly, there is no advantage. The swap is bolt in, and if you're lucky the VTEC wires are already there.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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ok, i didnt think so, but just wanted to make sure there werent any before making my switch. dohc vtec performance seems the way to go.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by e16prelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dohc vtec performance seems the way to go.
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I think everyone knows that for the past, oh....14 years or so now.

Let me know if you have any questions on the swap. I've swapped an H22a into the Si before (blew up the H23a1), and it was pretty simple. The performance factor was definitely worth it.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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what did you do engine wise after the swap? or did you keep it simple
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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H22 is a easy choose, but my only word of advice is do the manual timing belt tensioner before installing it, and if you plan on pullin the balancing shafts, that too.

Here are a few links if you not sure what I'm talking about:
Timing belt tensioner swap:https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=549516
Balnancing shaft info:https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=503372
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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isn't the h23 safer/better to boost, i remember reading that somewhere.
i have an h22 so i wouldn't really know, just a maybe
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oranginal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">isn't the h23 safer/better to boost, i remember reading that somewhere.
i have an h22 so i wouldn't really know, just a maybe
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Not really. The H23 still has FRM reinforced cylinder walls, so you still have to sleeve it before running forged pistons. There also aren't any oil squirters.

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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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h23=teh suck

h22=teh rock!
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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The ideal engine to get for boost is the F20B, it pretty much a de-stroked H22 with cast iron sleeves.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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depending on what you want and what you are willing to do yourself then I would vote for a mildly built H23.

H22A1 pistons
Cams, springs, retainers
Tuned ECU
I/H/E

will produce the same power as a stock H22 swap but with more torque. I am biased though. Your rebuilt H23 = less expensive street monster.

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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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I used to have a 92 Si w/ H23. Despite vtec and shorter gear ratio's, I miss the low end and esp mid range of H23. The top end (it is dead past 5500rpm) is really where it suffers. A good set of cams will really go a long way with this engine.

I say follow Pirate's suggestion. Having the torque is really nice on the street.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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the best part of an h23 is they can hold boost way better then an h22, i had an h22 turbo hatch and it sucks only 5psi, it went 12's but still i wanted more BOOST! so i guess if ur looking to go that route then you might think differnt bout goin h22, but if u jsut wana go all motor with bolt ons, either the h22 is good or a frankenstien motor would be good to, or the euro r motor even tho there expensive ive heard great things bout them!
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cbr900rr_uponone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the best part of an h23 is they can hold boost way better then an h22, i had an h22 turbo hatch and it sucks only 5psi, it went 12's but still i wanted more BOOST! so i guess if ur looking to go that route then you might think differnt bout goin h22, but if u jsut wana go all motor with bolt ons, either the h22 is good or a frankenstien motor would be good to, or the euro r motor even tho there expensive ive heard great things bout them!</TD></TR></TABLE>

youre a douche
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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The H23 aint too bad of a motor. I just fart around with my stock one and have plenty of fun with it. You will walk stock 240's and Celicas (GTS excluded) own SOHC civics, accords, and ludes. And you will give LS integras, non type S RSX's a run for their money (especially if they can't drive). With that in mind I can only emagine how fun a mild to well build H23 or stock H22 would be. Either way I think you have alot of options at your finger tips.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cbr900rr_uponone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the best part of an h23 is they can hold boost way better then an h22, i had an h22 turbo hatch and it sucks only 5psi, it went 12's but still i wanted more BOOST! so i guess if ur looking to go that route then you might think differnt bout goin h22, but if u jsut wana go all motor with bolt ons, either the h22 is good or a frankenstien motor would be good to, or the euro r motor even tho there expensive ive heard great things bout them!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't listen to this garbage.

H22s and H23s both have great potential. The deciding factor is how much research you do and how much $$$ you have to spend.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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^I usually get too caught up in picking out the bad grammar in those kinds of posts to really hear them out. LOL

I can tell you not to get so many big ideas in your head for starters. If you want to go through with something with the current amount of knowledge at your disposal, make it simple. However, if you are as stubborn as I am, you'll learn more before doing anything. Hell I still am and probably will for quite a while.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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Dude hawkeye... your gallery is empty bro, totally got my hope ups too. Party foul man, par-t foul.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mojo_stevo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dude hawkeye... your gallery is empty bro, totally got my hope ups too. Party foul man, par-t foul.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That gallery link is only there because I wanted to support H-T and I bought the $5 membership thing and they just stuck that link under my name.

My car is pretty ugly anyway.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cbr900rr_uponone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the best part of an h23 is they can hold boost way better then an h22, i had an h22 turbo hatch and it sucks only 5psi, it went 12's but still i wanted more BOOST! so i guess if ur looking to go that route then you might think differnt bout goin h22, but if u jsut wana go all motor with bolt ons, either the h22 is good or a frankenstien motor would be good to, or the euro r motor even tho there expensive ive heard great things bout them!</TD></TR></TABLE>

dude every single post you have made so far on Honda-Tech.com have been garbage.

research and know your **** or STFU
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Default Re: any advantage to h23 over h22a? (e16prelude)

i guess my real question is, should i rebuild my 2.3 or get a 2.2 vtec that has more stock power
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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You're going to get a hundred different answers to that question...you need to decide for yourself what you want to do.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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+1

either is a great motor to boost. But both have REQUIREMENTS of running the correct engine management.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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ok, no obvious choice. im just trying to get some info and opinions from people that have more experience and knowledge than me. its what i got, thanks.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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thats what we have a FAQ for. I have a link to it in my sig (RTFF)
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