Dynoed 2006 S2K
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Dynoed 2006 S2K
hey. just wanted to let you all know i dynoed my 2006 S2K today.... it was on a dyno dynamics.
my car has 900 miles so it isn't fully broken in. the temperature was 76F* and 67% humidity.
197.6 WHP.
146 WTQ.
high? low? average... i am thinking it's about average.
my car has 900 miles so it isn't fully broken in. the temperature was 76F* and 67% humidity.
197.6 WHP.
146 WTQ.
high? low? average... i am thinking it's about average.
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Re: (HFP)
the gentleman at the facility said they are typically pretty accurate but tend to be on the lower side... plus it was a fairly warm day in the late afternoon. no cool down time before the run. i drove there... pretty hard... and then they immediately did the runs.
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That is low. If you factor in the 12-15% drivetrain loss, that means 221-227 HP at the crank. Probably will be better once fully broken in, plus after 5,000 miles switch to synthetic oil and you'll probably be there. I just wonder how smart it is to put a car that hasn't even completed the break-in period on a dyno and rev it to redline.
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Re: (MuleS2K)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MuleS2K »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is low. If you factor in the 12-15% drivetrain loss, that means 221-227 HP at the crank. Probably will be better once fully broken in, plus after 5,000 miles switch to synthetic oil and you'll probably be there. I just wonder how smart it is to put a car that hasn't even completed the break-in period on a dyno and rev it to redline. </TD></TR></TABLE>
1. Break in is complete at 600 miles per Honda's instructions.
2. Synthetic oil is NOT recommended until 10,000 miles or later ... again per Honda's instructions.
If you're going to comment, at least have your facts straight before you give out inaccurate information.
1. Break in is complete at 600 miles per Honda's instructions.
2. Synthetic oil is NOT recommended until 10,000 miles or later ... again per Honda's instructions.
If you're going to comment, at least have your facts straight before you give out inaccurate information.
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Give 'em hell shivers. I agree.
Ok, Dyno Dynamics dynos are very close in numbers to Mustang dyno's which are very low compared to Dynojet. While a Dynojet will lose 15% +/- The Mustang and Dyno and Dynamics are another 10% lower typically. These are rough estimates and it really doesn't matter since a Dyno is a measurement tool for a car between changes. It's not like a car on one dyno truly makes less hp than another car on a different dyno.
I ran my 2006 S2000 on a Dyno Dynamics dyno and made between 195 and 197 hp so I'd say we seem to be pretty average.
Ok, Dyno Dynamics dynos are very close in numbers to Mustang dyno's which are very low compared to Dynojet. While a Dynojet will lose 15% +/- The Mustang and Dyno and Dynamics are another 10% lower typically. These are rough estimates and it really doesn't matter since a Dyno is a measurement tool for a car between changes. It's not like a car on one dyno truly makes less hp than another car on a different dyno.
I ran my 2006 S2000 on a Dyno Dynamics dyno and made between 195 and 197 hp so I'd say we seem to be pretty average.
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Re: (MuleS2K)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MuleS2K »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is low. If you factor in the 12-15% drivetrain loss, that means 221-227 HP at the crank. Probably will be better once fully broken in, plus after 5,000 miles switch to synthetic oil and you'll probably be there. I just wonder how smart it is to put a car that hasn't even completed the break-in period on a dyno and rev it to redline. </TD></TR></TABLE>
god i hate noobs...
god i hate noobs...
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As quoted by Shivers...
"1. Break in is complete at 600 miles per Honda's instructions.
2. Synthetic oil is NOT recommended until 10,000 miles or later ... again per Honda's instructions.
If you're going to comment, at least have your facts straight before you give out inaccurate information."
First of all, you're right, if I don't know my facts, then I shouldn't spread mis-information. But understand that 1) I bought my S2000 used, with 29k on the clock, so I didn't feel the need to confirm the "break-in" period, 2) The average vehicle completes it's break-in between 1,000-1,500 miles, and don't recommend using synthetic until after the first 5,000 miles, (but again, I should have checked first) 3) s2kb0i himself said his car wasn't fully broken in yet. Anyway, that was merely an after-thought. The purpose of my post was to point out that after adjusting for drivetrain loss, I feel that those #'s are low. I guess the question I need to ask is are those #'s corrected or not, because that will make a big difference. I assumed they were as most folks post corrected dyno #'s, but seeing that I'm new here, maybe that's not the case on this site. If those are corrected #'s, then my point is Honda shouldn't be saying their engine achieves 237 HP if it's only putting out 221-227. Many manufacturers sandbag their numbers. It's wrong for any manufacturer to inflate numbers, that's false advertising. I'm not saying that's what Honda did, I'd certainly hope they're better than that, but by posted numbers, it sounds low to me. I have yet to dyno mine, so I really have nothing to compare it to.
"1. Break in is complete at 600 miles per Honda's instructions.
2. Synthetic oil is NOT recommended until 10,000 miles or later ... again per Honda's instructions.
If you're going to comment, at least have your facts straight before you give out inaccurate information."
First of all, you're right, if I don't know my facts, then I shouldn't spread mis-information. But understand that 1) I bought my S2000 used, with 29k on the clock, so I didn't feel the need to confirm the "break-in" period, 2) The average vehicle completes it's break-in between 1,000-1,500 miles, and don't recommend using synthetic until after the first 5,000 miles, (but again, I should have checked first) 3) s2kb0i himself said his car wasn't fully broken in yet. Anyway, that was merely an after-thought. The purpose of my post was to point out that after adjusting for drivetrain loss, I feel that those #'s are low. I guess the question I need to ask is are those #'s corrected or not, because that will make a big difference. I assumed they were as most folks post corrected dyno #'s, but seeing that I'm new here, maybe that's not the case on this site. If those are corrected #'s, then my point is Honda shouldn't be saying their engine achieves 237 HP if it's only putting out 221-227. Many manufacturers sandbag their numbers. It's wrong for any manufacturer to inflate numbers, that's false advertising. I'm not saying that's what Honda did, I'd certainly hope they're better than that, but by posted numbers, it sounds low to me. I have yet to dyno mine, so I really have nothing to compare it to.
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Re: (MuleS2K)
My 04 with 20K miles put 235hp at the hubs on a Dynopack at Church auto here in Cali, subtract 15hp give or take and you have 220whp. They told me that AP2's consistantly dyno 20hp more than AP1's.
Just something for you guys to compare with. Car was bone stock.
Just something for you guys to compare with. Car was bone stock.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MuleS2K »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess the question I need to ask is are those #'s corrected or not, because that will make a big difference. I assumed they were as most folks post corrected dyno #'s, but seeing that I'm new here, maybe that's not the case on this site. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That is the important question. Hardly anyone ever posts graphs, all they do is post their peak numbers which mean nothing ... and if a graph is actually posted, it's usually STD rather than SAE. At least with SAE, you can take out some of the variability, but it's never a direct comparison because of dyno calibration, operation, etc. Dynos are tuning tools period and shouldn't be used for horsepower/torque bragging rights (unless you drive a Supra
).
No harm on your first post Mule. Just remember that new people are always joining forums, so they may not be knowledgeable in areas of the car and may take what people say to heart ... then we see them come back after taking less than accurate advice and they are having problems with their car.
You're lucky you didn't have to go through the break-in process ... it was the longest 600 miles of my life.
Modified by shivers at 9:14 PM 6/21/2006
That is the important question. Hardly anyone ever posts graphs, all they do is post their peak numbers which mean nothing ... and if a graph is actually posted, it's usually STD rather than SAE. At least with SAE, you can take out some of the variability, but it's never a direct comparison because of dyno calibration, operation, etc. Dynos are tuning tools period and shouldn't be used for horsepower/torque bragging rights (unless you drive a Supra
).No harm on your first post Mule. Just remember that new people are always joining forums, so they may not be knowledgeable in areas of the car and may take what people say to heart ... then we see them come back after taking less than accurate advice and they are having problems with their car.
You're lucky you didn't have to go through the break-in process ... it was the longest 600 miles of my life.
Modified by shivers at 9:14 PM 6/21/2006
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Oh, I know the break-in period sucks, I had to go through that with my last car, and that was the longest 1,000 miles I ever experienced. Actually, I wouldn't exceed 3k RPM's for the 1st 1,000 miles, then wouldn't exceed 4k RPM's until I broke 1,500 miles. The day I did however, I let her rip!
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Re: (MuleS2K)
when i bought my 05 new the dealer let me test drive the suzuka blue, and while they did the financing on my car, ssm...they let me drive the blue, i started with 4 miles on the odometer, came back with close to 100 all vtec basically, then got out and popped into my new ssm with 6 miles on it...to be considered a new car it must have under 150miles...they guy who bought it never will know it was beat on that bad, but having done that im curious, whats the worst that i could have done?
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Re: (mykcuz)
i gave my car a very hard break in. and you know how alot of s2k's...well almost all of them burn around a quart of oil every 3000 miles..
i dont burn any oil. and i dont even have 6000 miles on my car yet.
most will not agree with me.. but a hard break in works best IMO
i dont burn any oil. and i dont even have 6000 miles on my car yet.
most will not agree with me.. but a hard break in works best IMO
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by noturtypicalone »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
most will not agree with me.. but a hard break in works best IMO</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not hard, but aggressive.
Should drive as you normally will, with no lugging, no extended cruising. Run the motor through it's paces. The first 100 miles are especially important.
I burn little to no oil as well.
most will not agree with me.. but a hard break in works best IMO</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not hard, but aggressive.
Should drive as you normally will, with no lugging, no extended cruising. Run the motor through it's paces. The first 100 miles are especially important.
I burn little to no oil as well.
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Re: (noturtypicalone)
ive said it before, honda told me to ride it like i stole it, and to "set the computer high" i dont know what setting the computer means...
unless she was just a women trying to sell a car, but she has a suzuka so she has experience in one
unless she was just a women trying to sell a car, but she has a suzuka so she has experience in one
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Re: (MuleS2K)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MuleS2K »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Oh, I know the break-in period sucks, I had to go through that with my last car, and that was the longest 1,000 miles I ever experienced. Actually, I wouldn't exceed 3k RPM's for the 1st 1,000 miles, then wouldn't exceed 4k RPM's until I broke 1,500 miles. The day I did however, I let her rip!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Doesn't matter the RPM... it's the load on the engine.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: Projekt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not hard, but aggressive.
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Oh, I know the break-in period sucks, I had to go through that with my last car, and that was the longest 1,000 miles I ever experienced. Actually, I wouldn't exceed 3k RPM's for the 1st 1,000 miles, then wouldn't exceed 4k RPM's until I broke 1,500 miles. The day I did however, I let her rip!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Doesn't matter the RPM... it's the load on the engine.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: Projekt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not hard, but aggressive.
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