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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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will 225/50/15's rub at all when doing a full turn on a 93 civic hatch lowered 2.5" and with a camber kit. or should i just go with 205's?? i want the most traction though..
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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oh yea these will be on a 15" rota gt3. whatever the offset is i think 40mm
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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225/50/15 is 30mm wider than what you should be running, 195-50-15. Rather than spending the extra money on wider tires, invest in some good 195/50/15 tires.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shutupnskate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rather than spending the extra money on wider tires, invest in some good 195/50/15 tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>



The Goodyear F1 GS-D3 is available in 195/50-15 ($91/tire) and according to Goodyear's website, the $100 cash card offer is still available through the end of this week. That drops the price to $66/tire for one of the very best street tires on the planet. If you want the most traction in the right size for your car, that's what I would do.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shutupnskate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">225/50/15 is 30mm wider than what you should be running, 195-50-15. Rather than spending the extra money on wider tires, invest in some good 195/50/15 tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha i am investing in good tires.. BFG drag radials to be exact.. i have 205 on there now.. 400whp and no way im putting 195 on there LMAO.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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You're not saying or doing anything that makes sense. The ONLY advantage to wider tires is that they may help slightly in cornering (and even that is debatable); however, you're using tires (drag radials) that are not designed for cornering, but rather for acceleration. And oversized tires like you're considering will only HURT acceleration, not help it.

But hey, it's your car - you can do whatever you want with it, whether it makes any sense or not...
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're not saying or doing anything that makes sense. The ONLY advantage to wider tires is that they may help slightly in cornering (and even that is debatable); however, you're using tires (drag radials) that are not designed for cornering, but rather for acceleration. And oversized tires like you're considering will only HURT acceleration, not help it.

But hey, it's your car - you can do whatever you want with it, whether it makes any sense or not...</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok i dont get it... so youre saying all these bad *** muscle cars around here that run 9's have 20" or whatever wide tires for nothing? and they would be better off with a 9" tire?

you all are getting off subject anyway. i just wanted to know if 225/50/15's would rub when making a full turn.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i dont get it... so youre saying all these bad *** muscle cars around here that run 9's have 20" or whatever wide tires for nothing? and they would be better off with a 9" tire?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, bringing up such an oversimplistic example and using such wording only shows your ignorance.

But to answer your question - yes, larger diameter tires mean slower acceleration in each gear. It's just like putting a taller final drive gear into your transmission. The reason race cars have larger, wider tires is for cornering, not for acceleration.

But hey - if you want to use tires that aren't designed for turning, and get a bigger size so that they don't accelerate as well either, go for it!
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, bringing up such an oversimplistic example and using such wording only shows your ignorance.

But to answer your question - yes, larger diameter tires mean slower acceleration in each gear. It's just like putting a taller final drive gear into your transmission. The reason race cars have larger, wider tires is for cornering, not for acceleration.

But hey - if you want to use tires that aren't designed for turning, and get a bigger size so that they don't accelerate as well either, go for it!</TD></TR></TABLE>

all this talk about cornering and my car is a drag car not autocross.

not talking about diameter, im talking about width. 225=width.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Yes they will rub on a car lowered that much. Search for pics. You'll see that people with those same bfg drag radials in 225/50/15 have their car raised up high to accomodate them. And nsxtasy is actually giving you some useful information. You should listen to his comments besides bashing them like you do in pretty much every thread you make. You always sound like you already know everything.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK k kay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes they will rub on a car lowered that much. Search for pics. You'll see that people with those same bfg drag radials in 225/50/15 have their car raised up high to accomodate them. And nsxtasy is actually giving you some useful information. You should listen to his comments besides bashing them like you do in pretty much every thread you make. You always sound like you already know everything.</TD></TR></TABLE>

im not bashing him, but he is not getting what im asking.

ok lets get this straight. are you talking about the width (225) or the sidewall height (50)? whats wrong with 50 on a 15"? its what tirerack reccomends. i want a taller sidewall than 45 so it can flex more, im not a autocrosser neither is my car.

i know 50 series tire on 15" wotn rub.. my original question was asking if 225 width was going to rub if i turn all the way?
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
.. my original question was asking if 225 width was going to rub if i turn all the way?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You don't seem to understand the basics of tire mechanics. The width (225) is just as important as the the profile ( 50) because that profile number 50 is a percentage of the width, not just 50mm. A 225/50 tire will have a much greater outside circumference than a 195/50 tire because 50% of 225( 112.5mm) is quite a bit more than 50% OF 195 (97.5MM)

And, yes, they will rub with a 2.5" drop.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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ok so get 205/50/15? will these be okay?

i use to have 205/45/16 and also 205/40/17's and they never rubbed once.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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You shouldn't have any problems with 205/50/15 my Integra is dropped about as much as your car and I have no rubbing problems with 205/50/15s. Like you said, 205/40/17 and 205/45/16 won't rub either as they are closer to stock wheel/tire size for your civic than a 225/50/15 tire is.

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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 03:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK k kay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes they will rub on a car lowered that much. Search for pics. You'll see that people with those same bfg drag radials in 225/50/15 have their car raised up high to accomodate them. And nsxtasy is actually giving you some useful information. You should listen to his comments besides bashing them like you do in pretty much every thread you make. You always sound like you already know everything.</TD></TR></TABLE>

they will fit but as mentioned you have to raise the car to fit them.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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if you want to run 225's get spacers and make sure that the wheels are not tucked... be sure to have a stiff suspension... also you may want to get a total different rim with very little back spacing and atleast 7 inches wide....
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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i think u shoulda been more specific in ur original post thats y ur not getting the answer u were looking for and yes the 225-50-15 will rub.
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