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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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what is the best itr front sway bar.
so far. random order
mugen 26mm
a spec 32mm
jdm 25mm
intrax 28mm
eibach 27mm
z speed 26mm
whats the best you got?

i am currently running mr.alex rear sway bar: 25mm.
but the car still understeers...even after doing alignment
prob need to reset the camber a bit.
and i am already running 42:28 psi tire pressure...
god damm frt wheel drive.
my bro's s2000 feels a lot better
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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you got to match with other part. and what for.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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what are you trying to do?//doing...
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 07:53 AM
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if you want it to rotate better, go larger in the rear than up front. 25mm rear is good. try the 22mm civic front bar, and a 2/3 F/R spring rate ratio; e.g. 400#/" F and 600#/" R.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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what kind of changes in steering can you feel when you upgrade the front sway bar?
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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yea your a little backwards........ to get rid of understeer you go smaller in the front or bigger in the back..... or both depending on how much oversteer or nuetral steer you want to have

personally im still on my stock bars with a 8k/6k spring rate combo and i could be and HAPPIER with the way it handles........ it is absolutely nuetral i have zero issues with understeer and if i need it to i can cause oversteer on command

running azenis 615's with -1.5F and -1.0R camber and close to 0 toe all around
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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also i dont know what size tire you are running but 42psi sounds a little high to me i run my azenis in the 32-35 range.......... you can also create a little better grip in front by lowering the air pressures if they are too high

use your wear lines, arrows, etc. on the sidewall of the tire to determine the best air pressure for your setup
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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ok...heres the story, steering response seems sluggish, compared to (s2000 only front sway bar, miata csp preped, and lotus elan)
after all, the R is a FWD, but still, response is slow, whether steering or throttle.
i want a bigger bar, not jsut to get rid of slow response, but to decrease body roll when cornering, i am running 215/40/16 kumho V710 on 16X8 wheels 15lbs
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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tire pressure in the front are ok, even wear.
i take my car to auto cross, in SM.
built motor. so higher speed.
btw, cjames235.
do you autoX or track?
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 03:50 AM
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with completely stock anti-roll bars front and back on my UKDM and OEM strut bars front and back zero understeer issues and oversteer on command.

better to put a bigger bar on the back if you want less understeer
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 04:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yeungkaho &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw, cjames235.
do you autoX or track?</TD></TR></TABLE>

autox for now....... till my car gets paid off this year and i can afford the upkeep for the track

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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 06:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yeungkaho &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i am currently running mr.alex rear sway bar: 25mm.
but the car still understeers...even after doing alignment
prob need to reset the camber a bit.
and i am already running 42:28 psi tire pressure...
god damm frt wheel drive.
my bro's s2000 feels a lot better</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you're running 42 psi front and 28 rear, that's you're problem right there. You need to drop the front pressure and raise the rear considerably. Are these cold or hot pressures?
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 06:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TPB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're running 42 psi front and 28 rear, that's you're problem right there. You need to drop the front pressure and raise the rear considerably. Are these cold or hot pressures?</TD></TR></TABLE> try making them even at 35 psi and report back
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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try running Zero toe in the rear as well.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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already 0 toe at rear
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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wouldnt increase rear pressure increase grip / thus creat more oversteer
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Do yourself a favor and get out to an autocross or track event and learn how to drive the stock car. Once you've found the faults of the stock suspension, change what you find lacking and go from there.

Putting a 2 way LSD and a big front swaybar on the car is a recipe for an understeering monster. Don't waste your time and money by throwing random parts at the car.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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My car is stock except for Koni sports upon which I have lowered the stock springs (body lowered about 15 mm). I have to run 42 psi front on Azenis RT-615 for proper edge wear during AX. I also have to run 28 psi in the rear for good balance (ie close to stock rotation). 35 psi rear (which is what I want to be able to run) causes terminal understeer with my current setup. I plan to get a larger rear bar to enable increasing both front damping and rear tire pressure...
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