H22A4 with LSD. Life Span?
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H22A4 with LSD. Life Span?
Okay, I've heard of LSDs going out in a very short amount of time. I'm planning to pick up an H22A4 from http://www.passwordjdm.com which comes with an LSD for $2600. Compared to the H22A4 that comes without an LSD for $2300. I was wondering what the average life span on an LSD was.
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Re: H22A4 with LSD. Life Span? (xxxdjfrostxxx)
That is pretty expensive considering you can get a whole H22 swap with lsd tranny for that much. But I have had my lsd tranny for 3 years now with at least 80000 miles on it about 40000 of it was mine and hard miles to. The lsd has beed great however 3rd and 5th are gone.
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Re: H22A4 with LSD. Life Span? (nah22accord)
Really? You think $2600 is a lot? Crap, I think I've been looking in the wrong places for a swap.
Oh yeah, I also heard that to keep the LSD living long, you have to buy the LSD additive from the honda dealership and add it into your oil when you change it. True? They said to buy the S2000 LSD additive. ::
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Oh yeah, I also heard that to keep the LSD living long, you have to buy the LSD additive from the honda dealership and add it into your oil when you change it. True? They said to buy the S2000 LSD additive. ::
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Re: H22A4 with LSD. Life Span? (xxxdjfrostxxx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xxxdjfrostxxx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wait so... All H22A4s come with LSD? So does that mean all Base Model Preludes in the US have LSD? Or are you talking about JDM H22A4s?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NO a4's came with LSD.
and who is "they"?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NO a4's came with LSD.
and who is "they"?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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where the hell do u find the H22A4. ive looked everywhere and they are all H22A1 which is obd1 and in order for a car with a jdm swap on a prelude to pass emissions for fifth gen i believe u need obd2. so please someone show me a website where u can buy a H22A4.
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dood with a post like this your begging for Flaming....there is no numeric on tru JDM motors........*sigh* you should atleast know that my friends 14 yo brother knows that
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vinuneuro »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">H22a4 is a usdm motor ONLY.
No transmissions in the US ever came with an lsd option.
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WRONG.
h22a4 is not a usdm motor ONLY. H22a4 is available in the US and Australia.
No transmissions in the US ever came with an lsd option.
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WRONG.
h22a4 is not a usdm motor ONLY. H22a4 is available in the US and Australia.
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they got em for 2200 with LSD and a buncha extra stuff! and its warrantied. and the sensors are guaranteed working condition! thats a deal! i'll be picking up one real soon!
they got em for 2200 with LSD and a buncha extra stuff! and its warrantied. and the sensors are guaranteed working condition! thats a deal! i'll be picking up one real soon!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yO_wHuDdUp_B »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmotorsonline.com
they got em for 2200 with LSD and a buncha extra stuff! and its warrantied. and the sensors are guaranteed working condition! thats a deal! i'll be picking up one real soon! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually, the LSD is an Additional $300 on top of the $2200. But it comes with Axles. So that's a plus.
they got em for 2200 with LSD and a buncha extra stuff! and its warrantied. and the sensors are guaranteed working condition! thats a deal! i'll be picking up one real soon!
</TD></TR></TABLE>Actually, the LSD is an Additional $300 on top of the $2200. But it comes with Axles. So that's a plus.
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Re: H22A4 with LSD. Life Span? (xxxdjfrostxxx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xxxdjfrostxxx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Oh yeah, I also heard that to keep the LSD living long, you have to buy the LSD additive from the honda dealership and add it into your oil when you change it. True? They said to buy the S2000 LSD additive. ::::</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is this true??? I just put in straight Honda MTF and my M2B4 is working fine?
Oh yeah, I also heard that to keep the LSD living long, you have to buy the LSD additive from the honda dealership and add it into your oil when you change it. True? They said to buy the S2000 LSD additive. ::
::</TD></TR></TABLE>Is this true??? I just put in straight Honda MTF and my M2B4 is working fine?
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so can any one tell me if im looking for the s-spec motor with lsd instead of atts how i can tell the difference? will the intake be different? can any one help? also where can i look for a s-spec motor. i only see type-s motors offered with lsd, however the type-s actually comes with atts and the s-spec is the motor with lsd. so how can i be sure??
please help........
please help........
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xxxdjfrostxxx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...But it comes with Axles. So that's a plus.</TD></TR></TABLE>
... just be sure to check the axles immideately upon reciving them. Mine were marked LSD on them. for further identification details do a search. I ordered the lsd tranny but got non lsd axles. they were very cooperative with the exchange and i think this is just an isolated incident but better safe than sorry.
... just be sure to check the axles immideately upon reciving them. Mine were marked LSD on them. for further identification details do a search. I ordered the lsd tranny but got non lsd axles. they were very cooperative with the exchange and i think this is just an isolated incident but better safe than sorry.
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ok to clear up some confusion:
there are 2 types of LSD's commonly used in honda transmissions. One is a clutch type (kaaz, ATS) and a gear type (OEM honda, Quaife). There do their jobs in different ways.
The clutch type LSD uses a pack of clutches to put power to the outside wheel. The friction material on these clutches will wear down over time and will need a rebuild periodically. The advantages of a clutch type is that they can be adjusted to engage much more agressively than a gear type, and don't suffer some of the performance drawbacks of the gear type--when one of the wheels is lifted off the ground (say after hitting the kerbs at a track) the gear type will interrupt its slip action and basically will be rendered ineffective.
a gear type uses helical gears (usually) to turn the outside wheels and is generally maintenance free (which is why quaife offers a lifetime warranty) and is a lot more "set it and forget it" which is ideal for a street car.
Since race cars have their trannies rebuilt pretty frequently, the maintenance issue on a clutch type isn't as big a deal, and you do have to run a special MTF for clutch types. for gear types, you can run any MTF that's within OEM spec and they tend to be very reliable.
i have a quaife in my lude. the password swap package is probably an h22 w/ the jdm M2B4 transmission which came from the factory with the OEM lsd.
there are 2 types of LSD's commonly used in honda transmissions. One is a clutch type (kaaz, ATS) and a gear type (OEM honda, Quaife). There do their jobs in different ways.
The clutch type LSD uses a pack of clutches to put power to the outside wheel. The friction material on these clutches will wear down over time and will need a rebuild periodically. The advantages of a clutch type is that they can be adjusted to engage much more agressively than a gear type, and don't suffer some of the performance drawbacks of the gear type--when one of the wheels is lifted off the ground (say after hitting the kerbs at a track) the gear type will interrupt its slip action and basically will be rendered ineffective.
a gear type uses helical gears (usually) to turn the outside wheels and is generally maintenance free (which is why quaife offers a lifetime warranty) and is a lot more "set it and forget it" which is ideal for a street car.
Since race cars have their trannies rebuilt pretty frequently, the maintenance issue on a clutch type isn't as big a deal, and you do have to run a special MTF for clutch types. for gear types, you can run any MTF that's within OEM spec and they tend to be very reliable.
i have a quaife in my lude. the password swap package is probably an h22 w/ the jdm M2B4 transmission which came from the factory with the OEM lsd.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by remy525 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so can any one tell me if im looking for the s-spec motor with lsd instead of atts how i can tell the difference? will the intake be different? can any one help? also where can i look for a s-spec motor. i only see type-s motors offered with lsd, however the type-s actually comes with atts and the s-spec is the motor with lsd. so how can i be sure??
please help........</TD></TR></TABLE>
There are 2 S- spec motors the Type - S (ATTS) and the Type SiR (LSD) both share the 11.1 motor compression. The intake will be the same. Check the door jam it will tell you the model if you cant see it then look at the engine and see where the oil filter is.. if it is in the normal position then its probably the SiR if its off to the side its probably the Type-S to accomidate for the ATTS unit. Both have the red valve cover.
please help........</TD></TR></TABLE>
There are 2 S- spec motors the Type - S (ATTS) and the Type SiR (LSD) both share the 11.1 motor compression. The intake will be the same. Check the door jam it will tell you the model if you cant see it then look at the engine and see where the oil filter is.. if it is in the normal position then its probably the SiR if its off to the side its probably the Type-S to accomidate for the ATTS unit. Both have the red valve cover.