i need some info on t25 turbo on a b16. do you have to do the oil line to the pan to drain like other turbos? what other line must be ran? pics of setups would be appreciated

 

its just like any other turbo, oil drain to the pan, oil feed to the sending unit location...

i like to run the coolant lines into the throttle body, makes for a nice clean setup and runs a little cooler it seems...

coolant fittings are like a 1/4" fitting from advanced auto i think...

pretty small for a high revving b16 man..

ive got a t25 on my b18a at the moment and its run, but its no rocket, its trapping 83mph in the 1/8th at 10psi, which isnt too bad, but on a high revving b16 you might want to look into something bigger...

 

You must run an oil feed line to supply the turbo with oil as well as tap a hole in the Pan to return the oil.
The T-25 is not a very large turbo and it is going to run out of breath when you start getting into higher rpms.

 

im not being difensive but im going to tell you why t25. i have a b16 in my 92 cx hb. well last week i was talking to my friend who got a dsm "1st gen eclipse awd turbo" and he got me wanting turbo.i am only 18 and dont have a lot of money (keep this in mind before you say "GO BIGGER",becuz i dont have the money for that or the to rebuild when i blow up.he gave me the t25 and his old side mount.so i started researching and found that a t25 would be a nice little turbo for the low boost i want to run. i have stock valve train & only rev to 8k anywayz. im looking to get some dsm injectors,resistor box,piping,downpipe"2.5",a good manifold"if i can find one",and the lines and fittings which im looking into. it would be really helpfull if i could see some pics of a t25 on a b16 and or some help with finding the parts i need. alls i have right now is the turbo and intercooler. thanx

 

sounds like a typical setup, sounds pretty good, go with the t25 for now, if thats all you want youll still be happy, and when u get some more money upgrade...

 

does anyone know where i can find some info on this set up. pictures,diys,anything

 

bump for some help

 

some one has to have done it. everyone like me that dusnt have money talks about it, come on anyone?! need help fast

 

homemadeturbo.com

 

If you don't have the money to rebuild but you're rushing to get a T25 installed you might run into problems. Turbo is not a thing you want to half-*** especially when you're broke and you NEED your car. Not saying don't use that turbo and don't go turbo, just saying don't rush

All the same that turbo's too small

 

ill sell you a evo 3 big 16g which is rated to 400awd hp for 275....that b16 is going to swallow that t25

 

new info!
i got a 14b for free and i sold the t25 for 50 bucks to some kid with a talon. how much better is the 14b? thanks for the offer but im dont have the money right now. i need it to buy the manifold which i cant find and oil lines and fittings.

 

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i got a 14b for free and i sold the t25 for 50 bucks to some kid with a talon. how much better is the 14b? thanks for the offer but im dont have the money right now. i need it to buy the manifold which i cant find and oil lines and fittings.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're still not getting it, my friend. Those two turbos do not do well with the flowing head of the B16. Congratulations, you just traded 5 cents for a nickel.

For your application you still need a LOT of work to do to make this little turbo work. No pun intended, but now you're just "spinning your wheels".

Save your money, and do this right the first time....

 

i see wut your saying. but the 14b is a little better at least. believe me, i know i should. but its my first turbo and i dont want to much. i will upgrade to a 16g in couple months. i realize the turbo with pretty much max out at around 7000 to maybe 7500 rps. but im ok with that for now. i was just trying to get some ideas or some tech help on the this project. if i can i will show with pics the process so this will stop being posted once and for all.

 

no one has any info? i refuse to believe that. come on ht. i know youve got somthin to help out.

 

dont go T-25, go with a t3/t4 and get it tuned, listen to the shodan (mac) he KNOWS.

 

READ THE WHOLE THING! i cant afford it. im going 14b. thats all there is to it. im just looking for some setups or tech info.

 

What about selling the 14b, and finding a junkyard turbo (the large ford T3, dont remeber what car it comes off of).

Sell your current turbo, go collect and return some cans, buy and resell some drugs, then your all set.

Edit: I believe the turbo I'm thinking of comes off a Tbird.

 

for the price of a 14b you could go with a t3 super60 which is what i run on my b16 great spool up time and decent power i went 12.7 at 110 on street tires with it

 

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Please read my last post. the 14b is NOT much better. You're comparing yourself to a DSM again. The engine have TOTALLY different engine demand flows and characteristics. I have a feeling you're not going to understand that until you hear what you want to hear. On this forum, most people here are not willing to cater to that.

Good luck on your project, I'm sure if nothing else it will be an experience..

 

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Good luck on your project, I'm sure if nothing else it will be an experience..</TD></TR></TABLE>

You make posts that make a lot of sense, and then you say stuff that makes absolutely no sense. 14b is similiar to a 60 trim t3. Both are fine turbos for budget builds. Listen to the guy. He has a certain amount of money to spend, and hes working within a budget. It makes sense. A hell of a lot more sense then running turbos that can make 400-450whp and only making 300whp with them. T3/t04e is overkill in about 90% of the applications on honda-tech. The 14b turbo is fine for a budget build. He may run out of steam up top, but that will be replaced with more midrange torque. Overall he could do a lot worse than a T25 or a 14b. He could go with one of those K03's off VWs and Audis. I'm so sick of huge turbos on small displacement engines, and if you don't go that route you are an idiot. Meanwhile you see 5.0L mustangs running twin 45 trim t3's and run 10's. According to honda-tech they should be running dual T67's and running slower times because bigger is better. Bleh.

Stick with the 14b. If it starts leaking oil or something like that, find another one for $50 from a DSM guy looking to upgrade. You figure each one costs $50ish, you can go through 11 before reaching the price of a new t3/t04e. 14bs are far easier and cheaper to find than your larger trim t3s or t3/t04es.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nowtype &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You make posts that make a lot of sense, and then you say stuff that makes absolutely no sense. 14b is similiar to a 60 trim t3. Both are fine turbos for budget builds. Listen to the guy. He has a certain amount of money to spend, and hes working within a budget. It makes sense. A hell of a lot more sense then running turbos that can make 400-450whp and only making 300whp with them. T3/t04e is overkill in about 90% of the applications on honda-tech. The 14b turbo is fine for a budget build. He may run out of steam up top, but that will be replaced with more midrange torque. Overall he could do a lot worse than a T25 or a 14b. He could go with one of those K03's off VWs and Audis. I'm so sick of huge turbos on small displacement engines, and if you don't go that route you are an idiot. Meanwhile you see 5.0L mustangs running twin 45 trim t3's and run 10's. According to honda-tech they should be running dual T67's and running slower times because bigger is better. Bleh.

Stick with the 14b. If it starts leaking oil or something like that, find another one for $50 from a DSM guy looking to upgrade. You figure each one costs $50ish, you can go through 11 before reaching the price of a new t3/t04e. 14bs are far easier and cheaper to find than you larger trim t3s or t3/t04es.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Believe me, we are listening. We all know just what he's trying to accomplish. But I must ask this question....
Do you REALLY know how many versions of the hybrids are out there? about 20 on average. Do you own both a DSM AND a Honda? Have you configured turbos for BOTH cars for different characteristics at the same time? I'm not trying to sound mean at all,... I'm really not..but my god man, we're trying to save him headache in the LONG RUN. that's the only reason why we've all stated what we have, because a lot of us have DONE IT ALREADY long before. And it just so happens, that across the country, no matter what our income bracket was, no matter where we have lived, or what we've done similarly, we all just so happen to come to the same conclusion; IT WASN'T WORTH THE TIME AND EFFORT.....

Tell you what might be easier for him, since you're so eager to provide help.... if something happens, make sure that he get's your phone number and address so in case he has a serious problem, he can come over your place, use your facilities, and you can help him put it all together. Now.... THAT'S service.

 

Everyone knows when you do things on a budget in the manner he is, there will be more time spent troubleshooting and figuring out issues. If he can't figure that out, he should spend a little more time learning about the ways of the world. The end result is, he can get a log manifold flanged for a 14b turbo and a downpipe made up. Add a simple FMIC from ebay and some charge pipes and have a fine turbo setup. So what of the 14b isn't optimal. What is? Why does he need optimal efficiency when he is on a budget? He should simply do the best he can and as long as he is happy with the end results, that should be enough. Everyone thinks their car is a race car and needs to be at peak efficiency, yet they buy manifolds that is 1 size fit all. They buy turbos that some guy on the internet told them were really nice. They take advice from people that say, "my homie did it and it works fine". Its a bunch of hooey. So really, where is the efficiency? Is a K03 turbo optimal on a 1.8L VW engine? Is a sc61 optimal on a 1.6L Honda engine looking to only make 300whp?

PS: I don't give my number out to anyone. I don't take responsibilty for other people's ignorance. Thats something they should live with.

 

If you can't afford doing the right way, don't do it at all. You're still young and we know you don't have a lot of income to work with. All I can say is save your $. If I were you I'd save up some money to buy something. Let's say I'll buy a nice garrett t3/to4e .60 trim/.63ar this month, or in two months. Then maybe I might to buy a nice equal length turbo manifold w/ a 38mm flange in the next two months after the turbo, then I'll buy the intercooler piping later on, and so on. Anybody can afford a great turbo kit by piecing it up together one by one and w/ knowledge of what you want. Even if it takes 8 months to complete it I'd say it was well worth it, hell if it takes two years I still say it's well worth it. If you don't do it the right way, you'll have a hell of an experience, maybe bye bye motor and boo hoo I can't afford another b16a? Be smart

 

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PS: I don't give my number out to anyone. I don't take responsibilty for other people's ignorance. Thats something they should live with.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My goodness....kids.

Hmm... you know what? You're absolutely right.. You know way more about turbos than anyone here. I stand corrected. I tell everyone to get the same turbo for EVERY application. So does everyone else here..

There's just no point in attempting an intelligent discussion about this any further, so, enjoy kid.. good luck with the T25 and try Homemade turbo. Perhaps they'll give guidence.