I found someone selling an ANR header for the same price as a rage header(650). I was wondering which would be better for power in the midrange on a B16A. I've found several dynos of each but all the sheets I've found have been at different dynos, with widely varying conditions(weather, open header/full exhaust, etc.). Is their a header in the header test thread that the rage could compare too?(Since that has an ANR but not a rage) Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

ANR = cracks. Nuff said.

 

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Do their regular headers crack too? I've only found mention of some of the compact ones cracking.

 

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Not true at all.. Ive been rocking my AN-R header for over 2 years. No cracks.. Over 70 passes made at the track. both open header and full exhaust. I have no complaints with AN-R at all. i know of 2 other guys running them that i deal with on a weekly basis and they have no issues with them either

 

looking at the pics again I came up with another question about the ANR header....Will it clear the stock AC and radiator stuff? It looks like the primries stick out damn far.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broketuner-egb16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looking at the pics again I came up with another question about the ANR header....Will it clear the stock AC and radiator stuff? It looks like the primries stick out damn far.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The compact will work.. Im running the Compact in my EG. Im using a Koyo Integra Radiator and i have no clearance issues at all.

I also noticed that you are running a b16. I felt alot of mid-top end on the butt dyno the day i put the header on. Blew My JDM DC 4-1 out of the water. and i was using a shitty Mugen p28 chipped ECU at the time as well. AFR were in the high 11's and low 12's according to my PLX display

 

good to hear. but will the regular one clear? I haven't been able to find that info anywhere. I know either one will make big gains for me because my DC is pretty much crushed on 2 of the four pipes. But I'd prefer to leave the AC stuff in as sometimes it's needed and greatly appreciated

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broketuner-egb16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good to hear. but will the regular one clear? I haven't been able to find that info anywhere. I know either one will make big gains for me because my DC is pretty much crushed on 2 of the four pipes. But I'd prefer to leave the AC stuff in as sometimes it's needed and greatly appreciated </TD></TR></TABLE>

then i would get the compact. i believe thats why the compact was made for those who want to keep A/C and PS

 

i run the an-r standard header...motor has solid mounts and not using flex pipe...header has never cracked.
in the almighty header test on here an-r header came in a very close 3rd....and rmf designed the header...but this header was designed for a much larger motor according to what rmf told me....as such i doubt this header would be the best selection for your goals
if you plan on keeping a/c then look elsewhere as an-r does not make a header that will work....the compact only clears p/s

 

ANR=cracks plus shitty customer service

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2k.civic.si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but this header was designed for a much larger motor according to what rmf told me....as such i doubt this header would be the best selection for your goals
if you plan on keeping a/c then look elsewhere as an-r does not make a header that will work....the compact only clears p/s</TD></TR></TABLE>

I figured as much by looking at it, but the guy told me it's made for a b16 and tht I should be able to keep ac, does ANR make one for the 1.6s or only 1.8s and up? I'm leaning towards the rage because I can supposedly keep AC and it has a full warranty for 1 year(The ANR heder would be 2nd hand even though t looks brand new....doubt any warranty comes with it) . So with that and hearing nothing but how bad the customer service is by ANR I think my choice is made. Thanks for the help.

 

what about the rage header.
im looking forward to buy this header soon!!!

 

I think Im gonna be going with the Rage header as well. To the OP I would go with the Rage. Sounds like the ANR is used but is being sold for the same price as a new Rage header. I would go with the new header... Just my opinion, good luck

 

i have the rage header i bought it for a decent price i have it on my DC2. i have a lil all motor setup going on and i havent had time to dyno it yet, but i think i am going to do it here tomm or the next day and this header will clear ac. I myself was in your position but the rage header looks so damn good i couldnt pass it up!! well ill keep u updated

 

for rage.

 

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doesnt look that Rage Has the option for Merge Collector... or do they cause i havent seen one yet

 

i here toda is the best for a b16

 

The rage style header is a tri-y style which is just like a merge style collector ----- but it pairs 2 runners instead of all 4.

We will post a test ofthe an-r compact mild merge vs ours asap. Every motor has a different set-up and needs different things to run at its best. We offer 2 styles - reg and "big tube" = the reg style works great from b16 - b20v and everything in the middle. We also have a "big tube" for the larger street/race cars that run high rpm and or 2.1+ liter motors.

Good luck with your choice - of course we hope you go this way but either way good luck.

Jason Whitfield

Whitfield Racing Inc

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Whitfield Inc. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The rage style header is a tri-y style which is just like a merge style collector ----- but it pairs 2 runners instead of all 4.

We will post a test ofthe an-r compact mild merge vs ours asap. Every motor has a different set-up and needs different things to run at its best. We offer 2 styles - reg and "big tube" = the reg style works great from b16 - b20v and everything in the middle. We also have a "big tube" for the larger street/race cars that run high rpm and or 2.1+ liter motors.

Good luck with your choice - of course we hope you go this way but either way good luck.

Jason Whitfield

Whitfield Racing Inc</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just curious on why you didnt step the primaries and use a Real Merge Collector

 

Because tri-y's are great for entire range hp gains merge collectors are more of a drag race top end power producing unit......as for the ANR vs rage header question...........650.00 will get you a USED mild steel anr or 650.00 will get you a 100% stainless steel rage/whitfield racing header....and I am so confident I will say this "SOMEBODY BRING ME A STREET AN-R B SERIES HEADER, AND I WILL TAKE THE TIME OUT OF MY WORKDAY TO PROVE BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT OUR HEADER WILL WALK ALL OVER AN AN-R!!" I might know what I'm talking about because perhaps I've already done this exact test....hmmmm

Ohh ya and the primaries are stepped

 

we did test the compact merge - and that "street" would be less then the merge

 

I'm probably gonna get "flamed" or whatever you call it for this but truth is truth.........when we did our 909 header shootout many moons ago we put an ANR on out of curiosity and it did horribly all the way up the curve compared to every other header that we tested ... This was done on a 2 liter b series from highend autosports... IN FACT the ANR even got beat by a megan racing/obx/ebay special 4 to 1 header .......no joke

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WHITFIELD-TUNED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm probably gonna get "flamed" or whatever you call it for this but truth is truth.........when we did our 909 header shootout many moons ago we put an ANR on out of curiosity and it did horribly all the way up the curve compared to every other header that we tested ... This was done on a 2 liter b series from highend autosports... IN FACT the ANR even got beat by a megan racing/obx/ebay special 4 to 1 header .......no joke </TD></TR></TABLE>

Proof?

 

AAAHHHHH Its A Whitfeild attack

 

I think we need a specific Header shootout

AN-R vs RMF vs Hookups or rage what ever there name is now.

This will put a end to all of the disputes.

If i remember correctly ANR came in 3rd place in the old shootout. and the RMF came in at first.

So if the AN-R header was killed by a Megan header then I guess it should produce similar #'s to the RMF