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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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k im trying to look at some research on swaping in a 2.4 crank in a s2k. can anyone show me some threads or some proof on them. i tryed google already and nothing, also on the search botton on here is making me mad. please help.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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the aem drift s2000 is supposed to be using this setup. Some magazine is also supposed to be doing a build up on all stock honda parts for a 2.4 liter s2000 engine. Something like a tsx crank, prelude rods, and stock pistons...Not sure if that info is 100% correct (just something I heard from someone in the industry). Also not sure on what prelude rods would need to be used.

Something else that I was thinking. The inline pro kit is stated to be using a 99mm crank on their website. The tsx crank is also 99mm...makes me wonder...but then again the op of the 2.5 build up stated that it was a 100mm
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dkim48 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the aem drift s2000 is supposed to be using this setup. Some magazine is also supposed to be doing a build up on all stock honda parts for a 2.4 liter s2000 engine. Something like a tsx crank, prelude rods, and stock pistons...Not sure if that info is 100% correct (just something I heard from someone in the industry). Also not sure on what prelude rods would need to be used.

Something else that I was thinking. The inline pro kit is stated to be using a 99mm crank on their website. The tsx crank is also 99mm...makes me wonder...but then again the op of the 2.5 build up stated that it was a 100mm </TD></TR></TABLE>

I will let you know now that the cranks we use in our kit is not a k24 crank. It is a custom crank. Yes i am using a 100mm stroke in my personal setup.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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really so the inlinepro comes out to be $$$$ and wat comes with them. ya the aem s2k has done it. it on the modified mag. buts its a turbo set up. i think it for aem. its some dudes car. thanks for info. would like lot more. o and if any one could find some dynos of them that would be great.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ya@inlinePRO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I will let you know now that the cranks we use in our kit is not a k24 crank. It is a custom crank. Yes i am using a 100mm stroke in my personal setup. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you are flat out full of ****, in my motor it is defiinetly a k24 crank, in fact most of the motor is an exact replica of a k24. For instance the wrist pin is ithe same size of tsx which is smaller then a S2K. The rod jouirnals are as thin as a tsx crank which again is smaller then an s2ks. Also the length of the rod in my motor is as long as a tsx's. Now to further solidifiy what i am saying i have a K24 at my house and i have compared them very closely to one another and they are flat out identical. Also i drove the motor down to another shop, i choose to not name, names but they had multiple K24 cranks laying around and we compared them there as well. Also between the thin wrist pin and thin rod joiurnal that is exactly why you wont sell a turbo version of the the 2.5L. Now on top of all this other evidence when inline broke my first motor i had to wait multiple weeks to get Acura bearings not honda but acura which is little wierd considering it is a honda block. Also in all your build up threads there were zero pics of the crank, odd considering you took pics of every other little thing except the crank. Now you say now that your using a 100mm crank but i personally dont believe it especially when i have a 99mm crank and your website says 99 but magically you have a 100mm?? Also why were you so quick to deny it if it wasn't true what the hell would you worried about


And I was being nice to you guys too, not saying anything


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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Shift@9k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you are flat out full of ****, in my motor it is defiinetly a k24 crank, in fact most of the motor is an exact replica of a k24. For instance the wrist pin is ithe same size of tsx which is smaller then a S2K. The rod jouirnals are as thin as a tsx crank which again is smaller then an s2ks. Also the length of the rod in my motor is as long as a tsx's. Now to further solidifiy what i am saying i have a K24 at my house and i have compared them very closely to one another and they are flat out identical. Also i drove the motor down to another shop, i choose to not name, names but they had multiple K24 cranks laying around and we compared them there as well. Also between the thin wrist pin and thin rod joiurnal that is exactly why you wont sell a turbo version of the the 2.5L. Now on top of all this other evidence when inline broke my first motor i had to wait multiple weeks to get Acura bearings not honda but acura which is little wierd considering it is a honda block. Also in all your build up threads there were zero pics of the crank, odd considering you took pics of every other little thing except the crank. Now you say now that your using a 100mm crank but i personally dont believe it especially when i have a 99mm crank and your website says 99 but magically you have a 100mm?? Also why were you so quick to deny it if it wasn't true what the hell would you worried about


And I was being nice to you guys too, not saying anything


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<U>DDDDDDAAAAAAAMMMMMMNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!</U> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

now what would make somthing 1mm bigger from a 99mm? thats the question for Ya@inlinePRO.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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there is only one crank that i know about, and that is toda's that is irun in the ASM time attack car. I have called and they iwill not sell iit to me
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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why not. thats why i made this darn thread.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by saver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
<U>DDDDDDAAAAAAAMMMMMMNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!</U> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

now what would make somthing 1mm bigger from a 99mm? thats the question for Ya@inlinePRO.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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The man is spittin true knowledge. What you got on that Ya?
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: Projekt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The man is spittin true knowledge. What you got on that Ya?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have nothing to say about what he says. he acts like he knows everything about the shop.

if the cranks i was using was a k24 crank i would say so. there are oil holes that differ from a k24 crank.

why is there such a issue of me not having pics of it. if you order the kit, you get the crank. i don't get what the fuss is about. i'm saying its not a k24 crank in my car and its a custom one. whats so hard to believe.

as far as "shift@9k" i refuse to respond to him in anyway. please call the shop if you had any question as i'm not a sponsor on h-t yet, and i don't want this to become a business issue with h-t and the mods.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:12 AM
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as far as me using the 100mm crank,

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/ind...84440

in this s2ki thread, he has already questioned how its gonna become a 2.5L displacement. and someone was already nice enough to answer that question. I'm not lying about a 100mm stroke as cause thats what i'm using.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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k well this is a nice conversation and all but im really asking some proof of how the darn thing works on a dyno. o and im a bit confuse and if someone could point this out. so a 100mm crank makes it a 2.5 right well wats 99mm.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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http://www.s2ki.com/forums/ind...92826
check out this guys 2.5l
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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i have nothing to say about what he says. he acts like he knows everything about the shop.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What does me commenting about your companie's engine have anything to do about the shop??

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ya@inlinePRO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

iif the cranks i was using was a k24 crank i would say so. there are oil holes that differ from a k24 crank.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok so you are Modifying a K24 crank by putting differnt oil holes in it, then putting it into a different block so now its custom. Interesting that every tiem you comment about the crank or put it on your website, its never stated that its inlinepro's custom crankshaft, but rather only a 99mm custom crankshaft. I wonder if you did that to make sure no one could take you to court??

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ya@inlinePRO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i'm saying its not a k24 crank in my car and its a custom one. whats so hard to believe.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so you are not denying you are using a K24 crank, yet earlier you said you would tell us if you were using one????

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as far as "shift@9k" i refuse to respond to him in anyway. please call the shop if you had any question as i'm not a sponsor on h-t yet, and i don't want this to become a business issue with h-t and the mods.</TD></TR></TABLE>

like you said you are not a sponsor nor did you state you were a member of the staff at inlinepro. So how would this become a business issue. Especially when alll that i am doing here is stating what i know to be the truth. Apperantly you dont feel you need to respond to me becuase the truth hurts??

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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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p.s. that is my car
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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holly expletive man did you mom ever tell you that you could grow up to become a damn lawyer. hahaha i love it. haha. <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Shift@9k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">p.s. that is my car </TD></TR></TABLE> o and i dont see your car. are you talking about yours or did you post a pic of it that im to stupid to see. haha. the only thing i want is to help the s2000 to higher its damn TQ #s at low end. it needs our help. so far i found this on the dyno.
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/ind...92826 real good #s. but is it reliable and worth.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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i have nothing to say about what he says. he acts like he knows everything about the shop.

if the cranks i was using was a k24 crank i would say so. there are oil holes that differ from a k24 crank.

why is there such a issue of me not having pics of it. if you order the kit, you get the crank. i don't get what the fuss is about. i'm saying its not a k24 crank in my car and its a custom one. whats so hard to believe.

as far as "shift@9k" i refuse to respond to him in anyway. please call the shop if you had any question as i'm not a sponsor on h-t yet, and i don't want this to become a business issue with h-t and the mods.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You act like having a cnc mill and putting a couple more oil holes in a couple differnt locations is a big hard thing to do....

I personally dont understand the concept of paying for a custom made 100mm crank which will get you .02 liters more displacement than a 99mm crank, if you welded the journals and had it reground then that is one thing but a custom made crank would be a retarded price for a minimal gain in power (unless you had it modded for larger rod journals, and or stronger forged material....)

Not raggin on anyone but we have a couple cnc mills here at our shop and it would be really easy for me to get k24 cranks at honda and drill a couple holes and call it my own custom crank too

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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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interesting thread.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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hey where can i get some details about installing a k24 crank, like a parts list etc etc, recomended supporting mods, does the k24 crank need to be modified in any way to go into the f20c block,
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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damn...didn't know i was gonna start so much drama

being that you can buy a brand new tsx crank at around $600+
Throw in some custom rods to use stock pistons-$700+
New Bearings, Rings and Oil/Water Pump-$600+
Blue Print/Balancing/Installation-$500+

Bare minimum for a 2.4 liter S2000 F20C=$2400
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Same price as the F22 bottom end, but without the proven OEM reliability.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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but more power and torque

here are some pics of the two cranks

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s2000:
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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interesting that this came up... the K series adn F series from the S2k are relaly in the same family....

the K series was based off the F20C motor, thats why a k series tranny almost matches right up....

so it would not surprise me 1 bit if the crank/ internals fit without big issues....
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dkim48 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn...didn't know i was gonna start so much drama

being that you can buy a brand new tsx crank at around $600+
Throw in some custom rods to use stock pistons-$700+
New Bearings, Rings and Oil/Water Pump-$600+
Blue Print/Balancing/Installation-$500+

Bare minimum for a 2.4 liter S2000 F20C=$2400 </TD></TR></TABLE>


iv seen blown k24's for like 200 bucks
custom rods? what makes them custom? how whould you go about getting them? whould off the shelf pistons work?
i understand new bearings, and rings but if youv got a low mileage car do you really need new oil/and water pumps?
how much do think blueprint and balancing is cuz i whould install myself


thanks
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