Ok, I know that in 2000 the integra here in america came with air conditioning standard, however I am unsure of something. i recently found a 2000 type R which from the exterior has everything of the normal type R, the dealership is selling it as a type R, pricing it as a type R, and the carfax says the car is a type R. However here's my question, I noticed the car has leather seats. Also, on autotrader.com under interior it said the car had the option of sports/leather seats. Is that true? I was always under the impression that the integra never came with anything other than the racing seats. Could someone please clear this up for me that is 100% positive on this issue?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IMissmyeg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, I know that in 2000 the integra here in america came with air conditioning standard, however I am unsure of something. i recently found a 2000 type R which from the exterior has everything of the normal type R, the dealership is selling it as a type R, pricing it as a type R, and the carfax says the car is a type R. However here's my question, I noticed the car has leather seats. Also, on autotrader.com under interior it said the car had the option of sports/leather seats. Is that true? I was always under the impression that the integra never came with anything other than the racing seats. Could someone please clear this up for me that is 100% positive on this issue?</TD></TR></TABLE>

type r seats are same as any other integra.. just different material. adjustable leathers offer different seating positions because the bottom is can be adjusted. these seats are not itr btw
does it have sunroof? 5 lug wheels?

 

no sunroof, unsure of the wheels but I will know tomorrow since I'm driving 2 hours to see the car. Just trying to gauge whether I'm going to be super disappointed or not.

 

Was the interior stolen? Maybe just the previous owner had really shitty taste.

 

hm ok then what is a sure fire wire way then for me to able to tell if it is a legitamate type R or not then? I mean I've been researching this non-stop all day today and haven't had a rock solid answer as of yet. It even says it on the carfax but my god the leather seats are giving me such a bad feeling.

 

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Check the VIN # on the firewall. It should begin with JH4DC231******. Bear in mind, this only confirms that it was a type-r when it was assembled at the factory. From the sound of the leather GS-R seats, the possbility is better than average that the car has suffered some kind of theft. Whether or not that was limited to the interior is up to you to determine.

 

Is the car listed on autotrader.com, or were you just mentioning that's where you saw information about the ITR seats? If it's listed on autotrader.com or another site, give us a link so we can look at the pics.

From the factory, all model years of the USDM Integra Type R had these seats:



Now, doing so to an R would be utter stupidity IMO, but sometimes dealerships do offer leather; I've seen EM Civic Si's with dealer-installed leather seats.

What's more likely though is that the owner of the R replaced the seats or had them stolen. If they were stolen, I'd be curious what else was stolen and I'd want to make sure the title is clear.. but you mentioned Carfax. Did you have a full Carfax done, or just plug in the VIN to verify what model Integra it truly is?

Hope this helps.

Edit: You also want to look for matching VINs located on the front of the transmission case (on a green metal tag), each front fender (with the hood raised), hood, doors, hatch.. of course the "B18C5" stamped on engine block. If the stamped area is painted red, that's not the original block but a replacement.. just rambling off things to look for.

 

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/...dptop

there's the ad on autotrader.com. I did a full carfax on the car, I noticed it was a NYC car, but other than that I didn't see anything that really set me off, besides the fact that there are tons of records for the first owner but none for the second owner... Thanks for you help guys, and I appreciate any other opinions you guys could give me.

 

Make sure the motor is also ITR not a GSR or B16 motor with a red valve cover.
The Motor should be stamped b18c5 .

 

where do I find the stamp? I've seen pictures of it before on different ads but am unsure where to find it under the hood.

 

Seems like it has all leather door panels, and leather armrest. Also what muffler is on the car, does not look like a stock itr one, or stock one for matters. No kind of ITR badges either?

 

Car also has aftermarket faux carbonfiber overlay, why would someone do that when it comes from the factory with faux carbonfiber trim?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IMissmyeg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/...dptop

there's the ad on autotrader.com. I did a full carfax on the car, I noticed it was a NYC car, but other than that I didn't see anything that really set me off, besides the fact that there are tons of records for the first owner but none for the second owner... Thanks for you help guys, and I appreciate any other opinions you guys could give me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's a full leather interior from a GS-R or other.. even the door panels and arm rest. Either one of the owners preferred leather, or the interior was stolen.

It also has a non-stock shift ****. There are so many knockoffs and other variations, I can't keep track. It could be a JDM unit, but I doubt it. Possibly another pointer that the interior was stripped before.

The Integra Type R decals are missing from the quarter panels and the rear garnish (below the passenger tail light). This isn't uncommon; some owners would rather not advertise it's an R.. but it could also point to the car being repainted. Be sure to look very closely when you check out the car.

Be sure to check for a catalytic converter under thar, too. It's likely been modified; I spy what looks like an A/F gauge in the spot normally taken for cruise control (just a blank plug in the ITR).

 

Actually, now that i look at it, i believe this car was posted FS on honda-tech in the not too distant past. The polished wheels and tinted headlights/corners stand out to me.

 

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From standing in front of the engine, looking down to the left of the exhaust manifold:



You can see the green metal tag on the transmission case with the VIN on it; just to the rght of that, engraved into the engine block is B18C5, with the engine serial number underneath that. Also on the OEM transmission case, printed in black is "LSD J4D", to indicate the ITR gearbox with the limited slip differential.

 

You could probably find a nice stock ITR somewhere else. I could see someone doing leather seats but door panels and armrest?? Fake gearshift **** also, and not to mention the carbon fiber dash overlay.

I would ask for pics of the motor number and the spot where it says b18c5 before driving 2 hours just to see it.

 

^---like he said.

Yo can find a better one some where. Or could get a real good deal on this one. The dealer may not know what they have. Plus with the lack of the ITR interior and stock parts you could talk them down from 17k. shoot for 13 of 14k

 

check the vin and look for b18c5 on the engine block like others posted. previous owner or the current seller probably just changed the seats to the leather one. gooc luck.

 

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It's not faux c/f..plus the stock faux c/f imho looks like ****..

 

If I were in the market for a Type R I would look somewhere else. $17,000 for a 2000...I'd want it to be original or only have minor modification. I think the leather takes away from the fun of owning something special and puts many questions in my mind about its history.

 

I wouldn't spend that much on an ITR in that condition.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xjohnx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually, now that i look at it, i believe this car was posted FS on honda-tech in the not too distant past. The polished wheels and tinted headlights/corners stand out to me.

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I have a pretty good memory, those centercaps / polished ITR wheels stand out, here is the original owner and f/s thread:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1560680



Brian is a good guy, the thread above explains the history of the car

 

Yes this was my car. I changed the interior to leather because I traded the car in. The car was never stolen I just took out the original interior because I bought another ITR for a super deal. The CF overlay was done be the previous owner, but it is the real faux cf underneath. If you have any other q's PM me and I will try to answer them all

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bitzbp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes this was my car. I changed the interior to leather because I traded the car in. The car was never stolen I just took out the original interior because I bought another ITR for a super deal. The CF overlay was done be the previous owner, but it is the real faux cf underneath. If you have any other q's PM me and I will try to answer them all</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Oh by the way I can get you a better deal if you contact me