Okay, I did search but didn't find the answer.

My ride:
91 EF hatch STD
95 d16z6 obd1 with pm7 zc pistons
91 si tranny

Will the EF EX front calipers fit my std spindle?

YES i know its easy to just swap the whole spindle and caliper and call it a day...
however, If I do that my axles(std) won't go in it.
I want better brakes in the front but I have not found 92+ legend calipers but I did find a 91 ex. Will it just fit? Do i need my braket, the ex one, accord wagon?

Please let me know, Thanx.

 

You need the EX knuckles and the EX calipers. If you swap that over, you'll have 10.2" brakes while retaining the stock suspension geometry

 

If you read my post, i know i can do that.

However, my axles are std(23 splines) and won't go into EX knuckles(25 splines)

but can I still use the EX caliper on my knuckle?
THAT's the question

 

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but can I still use the EX caliper on my knuckle?
THAT's the question</TD></TR></TABLE>

NO...if so why would everyone want the EX knuckles for the bigger brakes. Pony up to the DX/Si axles and get yourself some EX knuckles. You kind of answered your own question in your first post if you would have thought about it.

 

I have a good set of si axles left over from my swap pm me

 

I read your question and I answered your question clearly. As stated, you need both the EX knuckles and the EX calipers.

CRX Toad added the information about the axles. I wasn't much help on that one because there is only the DX/CX/Si civics in Canada (no STD model)

 

I understand what you are trying to do and I have done what you want to do.

My suggestion to you is find an Accord wagon, they also have the Legend Calipers with the special brackets to run larger rotors on a normal spindle too. They are all over junkyards and people with wagons must not shop at JYs because they always seem to be complete.

or

Bite the bullet and find some non HF/4speed EF axles (I used ones from a 4door) and go with the whole EX/DA spindle. The axles will spline up with your trans because they are all the same on the trans side (except twin cam) and will fit the nonHF/4speed hubs. Swaping out the spindle will take 25minutes with the right tools but you will need an alignment when you're done.

Good luck, when I put the larger rotors on my HF I could actually feel the extra weight they'd added for the little 58hp engine to turn over.

It's too bad you're not in PA I still have the DA spindles and the normal axles that you'd use to make them fit.

 

Well, that settles it!

I'll just do the 92+ Legend calipers with the accord brackets.
That way all i'll really do is a brake job instead of a knuckle/axle/brake job.
Thanx guys

 

Just get the Integra from knuckles all you have to do is un bolt unpper and lower control arms the tie rod sway bar and the brake line and you can even leave your old axle bolted in, well worth it to have the bigger alxes

 

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this subject has been beaten to death. it does not alter the geometry.

 

2 minutes inside the FAQ landed me this:

https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1

Enjoy the FAQ.

 

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this subject has been beaten to death. it does not alter the geometry.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's exactly what I said. EX Knuckles do not alter the geometry.

 

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That's exactly what I said. EX Knuckles do not alter the geometry. </TD></TR></TABLE>

neither do the DA knuckles.

 

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neither do the DA knuckles.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They do, because they are slightly taller. The difference isn't very noticeable when the car is sitting still...but it is definitely a big difference as the suspension travels up and down.

 

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They do, because they are slightly taller. The difference isn't very noticeable when the car is sitting still...but it is definitely a big difference as the suspension travels up and down. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i can tell you from installing the DA fronts AND rears on my CRX that there was absolutely no difference.

 

Sigh....am I going to have to break you 2 kids up? I guess I will go home and get out the DA and EF knuckles and measure them so that we have 100% proof that they are different or the same.

The DA rears sit out slightly more than the EF that I can assure you, not much but a little. And don't make me measure those either.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX Toad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sigh....am I going to have to break you 2 kids up? I guess I will go home and get out the DA and EF knuckles and measure them so that we have 100% proof that they are different or the same.

The DA rears sit out slightly more than the EF that I can assure you, not much but a little. And don't make me measure those either. </TD></TR></TABLE>

go measure them both. bitch.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by z6_EF_obd1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Okay, I did search but didn't find the answer.

My ride:
91 EF hatch STD
95 d16z6 obd1 with pm7 zc pistons
91 si tranny

Will the EF EX front calipers fit my std spindle?

YES i know its easy to just swap the whole spindle and caliper and call it a day...
however, If I do that my axles(std) won't go in it.
I want better brakes in the front but I have not found 92+ legend calipers but I did find a 91 ex. Will it just fit? Do i need my braket, the ex one, accord wagon?

Please let me know, Thanx. </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludesrv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2 minutes inside the FAQ landed me this:

https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1

Enjoy the FAQ.</TD></TR></TABLE>



I hope you two realize you won't be able to run 10.2" brakes on a STD with Accord/Legend brackets.

The wagon calipers will let you run ITR brakes on a DA/EX spindle, they'll ley you run DA/EX rotors on a DX/Si spindle, and I'm 99.5 percent sure they'll only let you run Si/DX rotors on a HF/STD spindle.

See not everything is covered in the FAQ.

The HF and I'm sure the 4speed Civic came with bastard spindles with odd splines and smaller rotors. The fitment of the smaller rotors is from odd knuckels not from odd caliper brackets.

 

Doesn't matter to me. Our Canadian CX can with DX knuckles. I use the same rotor and pads as on my brother race Si haha.

 

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That's a wonderful attitude to have. You're one of those swell guys who doesn't come to this site to help, only to try to feel superior to other people by making asinine comments aimed to make other people look stupid.

In the end you aren't even flaming using accurate information.

I'm betting the swaps in your sig line aren't done as well as you proclaim they are either.

Why don't you clean up your attitude or take it somewhere else?

 

First line in the FAQ post

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonathan_ED3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well guys...you'll be glad to hear that it isn't necessary to hunt down those scarce EX knuckles to upgrade to 10.2" brakes. This bolts onto the non-EX 88-91 Civic/CRX knuckles!
</TD></TR></TABLE>

It clearly says you can run it on NON EX/DA knuckles. I say adleast TRY and bolt in onto a STD knuckle, it might work. If it doesn't, it's easier to find a DX knuckle then an EX or DA knuckle.

And my swaps are done right, because I actually care enough to LEARN and RESEARCH before I do anything.

EDIT: I have spare DX knuckles if anyone is interest. My brother works at a scrap yard now and I can get stupid things like that for a decent price.