I have searched and cant find a the right answer to my question. I have a full-race turbo kit coming and I want to run 12 lbs. of boost and still daily drive it. I have heard this will be ok becuase the motor can handle it. Is there anything else I need to keep the engine in descent condition. thanks

 

Just tune it well. I would throw on an Inline headgasket just to be on the safe side.

 

i think a turbo timer would be a decent buy, and you could look for those oil cooler kits, i forget the tech name for it, but it taps the oil pan and runs a line to a "mini radiator" keeping the temp down would help longevity

 

Tick-Tick- BOOM!!!

 

thanks for the advice retard

 

I've been called worse. But I'm serious when I say BOOM! Anything over 10lbs. is just to much. The engine in stock form makes to much compression. Even at 10psi you need to really have all your ducks in a row, if you do a head gasket you'll need to run even more boost to achieve the numbers you were going for to begin with. that my friend is a whole new can of worms! Do whatever, but my advice is pick up the phone and call cody loveland.

 

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If you're boosting your car without complete knowledge of its limits or how it works, you're asking for trouble.

 

Dont post a reply unless you have an answer, I have heard from others that the car will handle 12 lbs fine w/ the aem ems and a turbo timer. I am asking for other opinions. There are so many ******** on this site. Thanks for the people that helped me out and *** all you other ******** and your stupid comments.

 

conservative tuning is your friend... jg-fab ran 14+ psi i believe. stock block.. i don't know about reliability.. but like i said, tuning is errrrthang

 

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You've heard this and that... what the *** does that matter? What if I told you that you can boost 18 psi on a stock block, you'd believe it cuz you'd heard it from me? Don't come off smart-mouthing cuz you don't know **** bout FI son. I'm an *******, deal with it or STFU! And go do some reading you retarded SOB!

I may have the answer, some others may have the answer, but is it for you? Make up your own mind, build your own car, cuz in the end, it's yours. If you listen to one of these retards on the boards, and blow up, who's gonna take responsibility? You think anyone's gonna PayPal you $5k so you can fix your fukked up motor? Get a clue sucka. You're asking for OPINIONS! This is mine. Wet your lips **** sucka cuz the dick is in front of your mouth!

/drunken post

 

WOOoooW!!!!!!!! just tune it rite. pay good money to have someone tune it properly and you'll be fine, then don't drive it like ur running from the cops everytime u drive it...

 

forgot to add a BOOST CONTROLLER and HEADGASKET is a <U>MUST</U>!!!

 

u culd spring for some lower compression turbo pistons...someone on here posted about their boost project making pretty good numbers on 8lbs to be super conservative, 8or 9 might be better for u as a daily driver, ull still spin the tires at will and go as fast as u want before going above the roads capabilities

 

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You've heard this and that... what the *** does that matter? What if I told you that you can boost 18 psi on a stock block, you'd believe it cuz you'd heard it from me? Don't come off smart-mouthing cuz you don't know **** bout FI son. I'm an *******, deal with it or STFU! And go do some reading you retarded SOB!

I may have the answer, some others may have the answer, but is it for you? Make up your own mind, build your own car, cuz in the end, it's yours. If you listen to one of these retards on the boards, and blow up, who's gonna take responsibility? You think anyone's gonna PayPal you $5k so you can fix your fukked up motor? Get a clue sucka. You're asking for OPINIONS! This is mine. Wet your lips **** sucka cuz the dick is in front of your mouth!

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You are an idiot, give me a technical opinion not a smart *** comment. This board is for information not stupid douche bag comments trying to make people feel dumb for asking questions. Thanks again ********.

 

word of advice man. Someone is ACTUALLY trying to help you out in your case.

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I totally agree with this statement. If your not FI saavvy than this shouldn't be the right thing to do, especially with a F20C with its crazy high compression that can blow with ease if not done properly. I'm pretty sure this is gonna be your first FI car, so you better watch out for the precautions. It seems that you are unsure of what you want to do and how you want to do it.

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thanks for the advice retard

There are so many ******** on this site. Thanks for the people that helped me out and *** all you other ******** and your stupid comments

You are an idiot, give me a technical opinion not a smart *** comment. This board is for information not stupid douche bag comments trying to make people feel dumb for asking questions. Thanks again ********.

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what do you expect? It's honda-tech. hahaha

Expect to get smart *** replies haha.


Modified by OBSeRiouso at 2:28 PM 6/9/2006

 

If I were you I would simply run around 7-8 lbs of boost. Trust me your car will be plenty fast and it will be a little less prone to problems with less boost. You are also in Arizona where it is hot, so a turbo timer is a MUST. Also go into the turbo project with quite a bit of extra money. There are always little things that come up that you dont expect and you'll need the cash to finance them. Have fun and good luck

 

tune it right. have a good/reputable tuner tune it.

 

p.s. don't forget to get u a GOOD *** fuel system... everything from a high output fuel pump to bigger lines and etc... all that air and no fuel = <U>a firework show for the person driving next to you!!!!!!!</U>

 

I don't even know why I'm bothering, but if you insist. AEM EMS, KOYO RADIATOR, MUGEN FAN SWITCH & THERMOSTAT GET THE MANIFOLD & DOWNPIPE COATED GET THE HONDATA INTAKE MANIFOLD GASKET, RUN A WELL VENILATED HOOD & BUMPER COVER,OIL COOLER, SYNTHETIC OIL, PUT SOME COOLANT ADDITIVE IN THE RADIATOR I RECOMEND RELOCATING THE OIL FILTER UP TOP WHERE YOU CAN GET IT TO COOL A LITTLE BETTER. ALSO GET THE UEGO UPGRADE ON THE EMS IT WILL PAY FOR ITSELF WHEN ITS TIME TO TUNE. I ALSO THINK A SERIAL GAUGE IS A GOOD IDEA SO YOU CAN MONITOR EVERYTHING . I WOULD DO A CLUTCH BEFORE THE TURBO AND TUNE,TUNE,TUNE THIS IS ONLY AN OPINION BUT IF YOU INTEND ON DRIVING FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME I WOULDN'T EXCEED 11.5 A/F OR 16 DEGREES OF TIMING. I WOULD NOT RECCOMEND A HEAD GASKET. IF YOUR GOING TO PULL THE HEAD ANYWAY YOU MIND AS WELL DO THE RODS AND PISTONS WHILE THE TRANNY IS OFF FOR THE CLUTCH.

 

Honestly, I would hesitate to run more than 10 psi on a stock motor. Turbo choice, turbo manifold, and exhaust will have a HUGE affect on how much boost you can run. With a log manifold, stock exhaust and cat, and smaller turbo, you would probably be limited to about 6 psi on a stock motor. With a larger A/R, tubular manifold, and good exhaust, 10 psi on pump gas should be possible without a headgasket. Be careful. More boost is fun, but it will require better gas and more conservative tuning.

Tim

 

I didn't see anyone specifically mention getting a wideband to monitor those a/f ratios while on the road. I also suggest an oil pressure and water temperature gauge. Nothing will burn a bearing up faster than a loss of oil pressure. Being in AZ you'll want to make sure you don't overheat and warp a head. EGT gauge is okay for monitoring changes from the known values during the tune.

Getting an attitude towards people trying to help won't get you very far on HT. Grow up, bite your tongue, take their advice (and EVERYONE else’s.. including mine) with a grain of salt man and move on. It's real easy for someone who hasn't gone through the process of boosting a car to give out opinions on what will and won't work, especially when it’s YOUR money that’s funding their experiments.

Boosting an engine that wasn't designed for it is possible, but when **** starts to hit the fan, it usually happens pretty quickly. The higher the compression, the more challenging it is to get a reliable tune (being harder to do, less tuners out there can actually do it..). Compression does have its benefits for boost too. Like someone said, find a reputable tuner that has done S2k's before with a similar setup. As with just about any Honda, 12psi on a stock block is very high. A great tune will probably let you get away with it for a while, but it's still going to be hard on an engine that wasn't built for it. If you're dead stuck on having 12psi available, get it tuned for that and use a boost controller to tool around on the street at 6-7psi for longevity, fuel mileage, etc. Then when you really, really want that extra oomph, flip it up to that extra psi for a run.

Knowledge is power. Read, read, read.

Respect your machine and it will serve you well.

p.s. don't argue over the internet.. it makes YOU look like the retard.

 

^^^^^^^^^^^ IS HE A GOD??? Almost made me cry!!! <U>PERFECTO...[/U] exactly what he said is DITTO for me...

 

You're just being too damn nice to someone that isn't going to walk the talk.

 

Nah, we've all been there.. in more than one way or another.

 

&lt;--- 2mm HG... 8-10 psi daily and 1 bar for max psi. GT35r

hopefully i'll be done by august... our damn cars require a whole lot more money than a bseries