Like title says, looking to see if my old s1 clutch pressure plate will work over a 92-93 integra clutch disc. The s1 tranny broke, so the tranny being used is a YS1. WIll the bolts line up or do I have to buy the entire clutch kit to mate the YS1 tranny to my first generation b16a.

 

you could use the same flywheel, but you need a 92-93 integra clutch. the splines are diffrent from the older models.

 

I know the splines are different from the clutch disc, just wanted to know if the s1 pressure plate will fit on the 92-93 integra clutch disc, like if the bolts line up right

 

all b series plates are the same. only difference are the disk.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ch3mik &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all b series plates are the same. only difference are the disk. </TD></TR></TABLE>

False

90-91 uses different fly wheels than 92+

if you are just bolting the tranny to the same motor the you are using the same flywheel and you will be fine, the only difference that I know of is the spline thickness on the disc other than that I think they are the identical size and what not

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Loserkidwac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

90-91 uses different fly wheels than 92+

if you are just bolting the tranny to the same motor the you are using the same flywheel and you will be fine, the only difference that I know of is the spline thickness on the disc other than that I think they are the identical size and what not</TD></TR></TABLE>
your wrong

all b seris flywheels and pressure plates are interchangable
there are 2 different clutch disc small spline for 90-91 trannies and big spline for 92-01 trannies. There is a cable tranny throw out bearing and a hydro thro out bearing. both clutch disc are 24 teeth but the 92+ is bigger in diameter.

so a 92-93 cable clutch kit is the same as a hydro clutch kit except for the throw out bearing. all piolot bearing are the same

so yes you can use any b seris flywheel, pressure plate, piolot bearing with any b seris engine

 

Thats not true not all B series flywheels are the same, they are interchangeable but the 90-91 has a differnt flywheel than the 92+ look at them sometime if you don't believe me, I have had both in front of me, I have a 90-91 in my car with a 90 LS trans on a B18b motor, the presssure plate woul not line up and bolt to the original flywheel, if you don't believe me go to http://www.lsdmotorsports.com and ask them, they deal with clutchs and are very helpful, I originally though that 90-93 were different but it is just the 90-91, the B16 may be different than the USDM LS integras, but I don't think so

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Loserkidwac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats not true not all B series flywheels are the same, they are interchangeable but the 90-91 has a differnt flywheel than the 92+ look at them sometime if you don't believe me, I have had both in front of me, I have a 90-91 in my car with a 90 LS trans on a B18b motor, the presssure plate woul not line up and bolt to the original flywheel, if you don't believe me go to http://www.lsdmotorsports.com and ask them, they deal with clutchs and are very helpful, I originally though that 90-93 were different but it is just the 90-91, the B16 may be different than the USDM LS integras, but I don't think so</TD></TR></TABLE>

then how come I used my existing 91 flywheel (that I was using with my 91 cable b16 tranny ) with my 93 gsr clutch kit when I went to a 93 gsr cable tranny?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Loserkidwac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats not true not all B series flywheels are the same, they are interchangeable but the 90-91 has a differnt flywheel than the 92+ look at them sometime if you don't believe me, I have had both in front of me, I have a 90-91 in my car with a 90 LS trans on a B18b motor, the presssure plate woul not line up and bolt to the original flywheel, if you don't believe me go to http://www.lsdmotorsports.com and ask them, they deal with clutchs and are very helpful, I originally though that 90-93 were different but it is just the 90-91, the B16 may be different than the USDM LS integras, but I don't think so</TD></TR></TABLE>
you dont know what your talking about

all b seris pressure plates will work with all b seris flywheels
there is no different bolt pattern

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by riceball777 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you dont know what your talking about

all b seris pressure plates will work with all b seris flywheels
there is no different bolt pattern </TD></TR></TABLE>

yep. ive used a 91 and a 95 flywheel with the same clutch before

 

Yes, you can use a 1992-1993 disk with your pressure plate and flywheel.

 

Part Number Image Description Year Model
22100-PR4-010 FLYWHEEL 90 - 93 INTEGRA
22100-P75-305 FLYWHEEL 90 - 93 INTEGRA
22100-P75-000 FLYWHEEL 94 - 96 INTEGRA
22100-P75-005 FLYWHEEL 1997 INTEGRA

Why so many different part numbers? I know for a fact that my 90-91 pressure plate did not fit on the 96 B18b flywheel I had but it fit on the 90 LS flywheel...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Loserkidwac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Part Number Image Description Year Model
22100-PR4-010 FLYWHEEL 90 - 93 INTEGRA
22100-P75-305 FLYWHEEL 90 - 93 INTEGRA
22100-P75-000 FLYWHEEL 94 - 96 INTEGRA
22100-P75-005 FLYWHEEL 1997 INTEGRA

Why so many different part numbers? I know for a fact that my 90-91 pressure plate did not fit on the 96 B18b flywheel I had but it fit on the 90 LS flywheel...</TD></TR></TABLE>
some ls and b20 parts are interchangeable. and they have different part numbers.

 

Wow, thanks for that relivant info, look those are all LS motors B18a and B18b, if the parts aren't different then why new part numbers? I can understand if all the 22100-P75-XXX are the same but the 22100-PR4-XXX is different, I guess I should have listed these

Part Number Image Description Year Model
22300-PR4-020 DISK, PRESSURE 90 - 91 INTEGRA
22300-P54-010 DISK, PRESSURE 92 - 96 INTEGRA
22300-P75-005 DISK, PRESSURE 96 - 01 INTEGRA

Those are the clutch pressure plate part numbers

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Loserkidwac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the B16 may be different than the USDM LS integras</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is possible but back up your info I've provided you with part numbers to show 2 different part numbers for the 90-93 flywheel along with a seperate part number for the 90-91 clutch pressure plate, but again this is just USDM integras

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StorminMatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, you can use a 1992-1993 disk with your pressure plate and flywheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And this is the answer for the original post

 

LOL... so much mis-information from people who just know what they read on the internet. I've been doing swaps for the past 10 years and all B-series (minus the B20A Prelude crap), the flywheel and pressure plates are the same or interchangable. The disc is what is different as you have the smaller input shaft on the 90-91 transmissions, and the larger input shaft on the 92-01 transmissions. You can use a 2000 ITR clutch disc, flywheel, and pressure plate on your 92 Integra if you really wanted to, just need a cable tranny throwout bearing instead of the hydro tranny one. Don't know why there's so much wrong info being passed around these days

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RVD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL... so much mis-information from people who just know what they read on the internet. I've been doing swaps for the past 10 years and all B-series (minus the B20A Prelude crap), the flywheel and pressure plates are the same or interchangable. The disc is what is different as you have the smaller input shaft on the 90-91 transmissions, and the larger input shaft on the 92-01 transmissions. You can use a 2000 ITR clutch disc, flywheel, and pressure plate on your 92 Integra if you really wanted to, just need a cable tranny throwout bearing instead of the hydro tranny one. Don't know why there's so much wrong info being passed around these days </TD></TR></TABLE>

exactelyfiannly snother person that knows what they are talking aboiut

there is no damn different bolt patter for b seris flywheels or pressure plates!!! they are all interchangable. there a 90-91 clutch dick and 92+ and a cable throw out bearing and a hydro one
thats it!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by riceball777 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> [B][B]there a 90-91 clutch dick and 92+ </TD></TR></TABLE>

interesting

 

Well i am waiting for a response from some companies that sell clutch kits, if i am wrong, I'll appologize but I know what i know from experience not just reading on the interaweb, and no one here seems to have anything to back there info up, I just sold my B18b flywheel but I have a pic and I still have my stock 90-91 PP so I will see if i can compare them once I get home...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Loserkidwac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well i am waiting for a response from some companies that sell clutch kits, if i am wrong, I'll appologize but I know what i know from experience not just reading on the interaweb, and no one here seems to have anything to back there info up</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL... you do realize that at 'companies' these days they hire idiots and a lot of times they don't know what really works because again, they have not done it themselves or had actual hands on experience. They just go off of what others tell them to say or what they've read on the internet or somewhere

In a way, I hope you do get the wrong parts. That way you can actually LEARN from the experience and know for yourself what works and what doesn't. Otherwise, what I just posted up is correct above. I know this because I used to work for a few different shops in the 90's and early 2000's that just did swaps and motor conversions. So putting in a clutch like 3 times a week, you know what works and what doesn't.

 

Word, yea i appologize for that i got some more info, i'm like half ture but year 90-01 will work together, i e-mail a reliable informant:

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Some of the flywheels have 9 bolt holes as opposed to 6, but the dowel pins would still line up and everything would still work fine.
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I really don't know what was up with my flywheel and I swear i tried rotating it a couple different ways, he said it was possible it was from a 88-91 prelude also

So yea 90-01 are interchangeable but there are still differences so i was almost correct

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Loserkidwac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Word, yea i appologize for that i got some more info, i'm like half ture but year 90-01 will work together, i e-mail a reliable informant:

I really don't know what was up with my flywheel and I swear i tried rotating it a couple different ways, he said it was possible it was from a 88-91 prelude also

So yea 90-01 are interchangeable but there are still differences so i was almost correct </TD></TR></TABLE>

o yea. that is true. the bolt holes for the plate. 6 and 9. they all still work though.