If you have a Scion tC that had a stock h/u, and have a 10w6v2 powered by a jl 250/1...what would you buy as components? I love to listen to loud music...but I want it to be clean...Right now it's aggravating the **** out of me because the sub seems to overpower the highs...what would you guys get?


*edit* money is not an object...well yeah it is...willing to spend about $1,000-$1,500...


Modified by m1sterpanda at 8:54 PM 6/7/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m1sterpanda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you have a Scion tC that had a stock h/u, and have a 10w6v2 powered by a jl 250/1...what would you buy as components? I love to listen to loud music...but I want it to be clean...Right now it's aggravating the **** out of me because the sub seems to overpower the highs...what would you guys get?


*edit* money is not an object...well yeah it is...willing to spend about $1,000-$1,500...


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I'm a fan of the Dynaudio system 360. they'll fit into your budget if that budget is for speakers only. plan on spending close to that for an amp to power them.

 

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I'm a fan of the Dynaudio system 360. they'll fit into your budget if that budget is for speakers only. plan on spending close to that for an amp to power them. </TD></TR></TABLE>

nice sig

 

I'd get a new headunit first. A decent aftermarket headunit will put out more power than your factory one, and also give you front, rear, and sub crossovers (to protect your speakers).

For components I'm a big fan of diamond audio. Very smooth when you use their silk dome tweeters.

Personally I wouldn't buy a component set unless I bought an amp at the same time

 

I would throw in a better headunit, You can have the best speakers in the world but there going to sound like $hit if the signal is garbage. Also look into getting a amp for ur new components. And don't skimp on a set of good rca's,

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by a_s_ol_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd get a new headunit first. A decent aftermarket headunit will put out more power than your factory one, and also give you front, rear, and sub crossovers (to protect your speakers).

For components I'm a big fan of diamond audio. Very smooth when you use their silk dome tweeters.

Personally I wouldn't buy a component set unless I bought an amp at the same time </TD></TR></TABLE>

What is the use of buying 500 dollars speakers with the same oem unit and it will still sound like crap. Like this guy said change the h.u. first. Now the h.u. is not about how much power its going to make thats what amps are for. U want to look for h.u. that will deliver clarity to yur speakers. Also unit that will have front,rear, and subs outputs. And a unit that has a low/high pass crossover will come in handy too.

Oh btw diamond rocks!!!!

 

In regards to speakers from what i heard.....

MB quart
CDT
Focal
Boston Acoustic

 

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are alpine as good as they seem? i hear people saying how alpine is the best out there...any contradictions? and i have no bills or anything to pay for...so imma spend most of my money on this system...tahnks for the info guys

 

Alpine is ok, but just that imho. Personally I think their decks have a steep learning curve for someone who has never used one before, and for the bang for the buck factor , they are lacking. Their amps tend to seem underpowered and their speakers aren't all that fantastic either. Granted I haven't heard their type X or F1 stuff, but I've heard $140 coaxials that sound better than the type R separates. Can you tell I'm not an alpine fan?

Make sure you research before you buy man, impulse decisions can be a killer unless they are well-informed (this coming from a car stereo salesman ). Keep posting questions and we'll keep answering

 

I myself used to be a kenwood fan now i have a pioneer and i love it.

This are the top h.u. that i like:

Eclipse
Pioneer
Panasonic

All i can say go to a audio shop and here them out. WE all have different taste so just go and check em out and see which one you like.

 

I don't like pioneers apart for their avic stuff, and even then it's just for nav. Eclipse's used to be good, but they've sold out I had one in my car and it sounded AMAZING, but it required A LOT of tweaking to get it right.

I like kenwoods because they're usually drop it in and it sounds good, no tweaking really needed. Panasonic on the other hand =

 

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Just as an FYI - a steep learning curve means that something is easy to pick up - a common misusage is that a steep learning curve makes something difficult to lean....it's just not true. The learning curve depicts how long it takes for someone to gain knowledge, the steeper the curve, the faster you learn

As for the OP. I have two words - Seas Lotus

OEM headunits, generally are not that bad when used as a preamp. The headunit in my car is made by alpine - and has balanced outputs Personally, I'm not a fan of a lot of the sets you have mentioned, but you have to do yourself a favor and go audition speakers to see what you think of them.

I'm a fan of Seas Lotus Reference set - it sounds just fantastic. I also like DLS speakers and Dynaudio are nice as well. As always, install is everything, so spend a little more on the install and you should fare pretty well.

 

Kenwoods, for the average consumer, are a fantastic unit. Good feature set in every price point, and not too hard on the wallet. Eclipses used to be good, but no so much before ( my previous deck is in my sig )

For my own car I'd love a mcintosh deck, but I'm not that much of a baller. I did however get a hell of a deal on a kvt915

 

how do you guys know so much about this stuff? i mean i'm doing some reading, and it seems like another language...i have a cousin who is an electrical major, or something of the sort, and he's gonna be helping me out with the wiring and stuff...i was thinking about getting the alpine 9856 or 9857...so what you guys are saying that alpine decks are for the "elite"? i mean im far from elite, but i have some audio background (helping sisters bf set up his system in his car)...any tips on what h/u to get will be greatly appreciated

btw dont want to spend over $350 for a h/u

 

another quick question...my audio system is going to be in a tc...what would you recommend (sp) for sound dampening and where...i mean it's a hatchback, similar to an rsx....any suggestiosn?

 

hate to be a post *****..but i was just thinking...my co-worker/friend has a 12 kicker comp with a kenwood KAC-7252 (2 channel amp with 170 watts rms x 2) do you think it'll sound better than a w6v2 that is powered on a jl 250/1? i mean his sub hits hard...then again my sisters ex bf had a w6 and it was loud and sounded so clean...what do you guys htink?

 

Yeah this forum doesn't move very fast

As far as decks I would stay away from alpine at the 350$ price point. Having no crossovers in a deck for that much is ridiculous.Instead I would get the kenwood excelon kdcx790 - 5volt preouts, built in aux in, good 24bit dac, blah blah blah blah.

I know what I do because I've been a car stereo salesman for the past two years, and I actually enjoying learning about this stuff, so I read in my spare time

As far as amps/subs go, I'm not really a kenwood fan, more of a boston acoustic/diamond audio fan. Unfortunately I haven't found one brand that I can stick behind and say "I'd buy a whole system from them" given what I now know, though rcurly may attest to me not having enough experience in high end stuff

In my own car I have a boston GT24 and a G5 12" woofer in the trunk. I'm running about 600watts rms @ 4ohm to the sub and it sounds as clean as possible for a del sol, yet it's still loud when I want to crank it. Btw the setup is for sale (/end shamless plug)

Ht seems to be HEAVILY in to JL, and they're a decent brand but there's always better out there. I'd definitly recommend looking in to some diamond audio and boston acoustics subs: all you have to do is find a local dealer and go listen. In the end this is about what you like

 

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As far as decks I would stay away from alpine at the 350$ price point. Having no crossovers in a deck for that much is ridiculous.Instead I would get the kenwood excelon kdcx790 - 5volt preouts, built in aux in, good 24bit dac, blah blah blah blah.

I know what I do because I've been a car stereo salesman for the past two years, and I actually enjoying learning about this stuff, so I read in my spare time

As far as amps/subs go, I'm not really a kenwood fan, more of a boston acoustic/diamond audio fan. Unfortunately I haven't found one brand that I can stick behind and say "I'd buy a whole system from them" given what I now know, though rcurly may attest to me not having enough experience in high end stuff

In my own car I have a boston GT24 and a G5 12" woofer in the trunk. I'm running about 600watts rms @ 4ohm to the sub and it sounds as clean as possible for a del sol, yet it's still loud when I want to crank it. Btw the setup is for sale (/end shamless plug)

Ht seems to be HEAVILY in to JL, and they're a decent brand but there's always better out there. I'd definitly recommend looking in to some diamond audio and boston acoustics subs: all you have to do is find a local dealer and go listen. In the end this is about what you like </TD></TR></TABLE>

okay..so im going look into that deck you recommended...as far as the jl stuff goes...i got that stuff as a high school graduation present...free stuff is good ....you work for an audio store in general? i wish i could have a job at an audio store while being in school...

 

is that the kenwood excelon deck you were refering to? because i looked on crutchfield and it was about 350...and i looked on woofersetc.com and it was like 240....so idk..just making sure it was the same deck you were talking about

 

pioneer 780 end of story.

CD player with built-in MOSFET50 amplifier (22 watts RMS/50 peak x 4 channels)
slide-down, motorized face with customizable, full-color Organic EL display
CD, CD-R, and CD-RW compatible, including discs loaded with MP3, WMA, and AAC files (not compatible with songs downloaded from Apple iTunes Music Store)
Supertuner IIID (18 FM/6 AM presets)
Digital Sound Processor with 16-band graphic EQ and time alignment
Auditory User Interface
loudness (3 levels)
auxiliary input
three sets of 5-volt preamp outputs
high-and low-pass filters for improved speaker performance
compatible with iPod using Pioneer CDIB100II adapter
satellite radio-ready (XM or SIRIUS tuner, subscription, and antenna required)
remote control
clock
CD frequency response: 5-20,000 Hz
CD signal-to-noise ratio: 94 dB
FM sensitivity: 8 dBf

 

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CD player with built-in MOSFET50 amplifier (22 watts RMS/50 peak x 4 channels)
slide-down, motorized face with customizable, full-color Organic EL display
CD, CD-R, and CD-RW compatible, including discs loaded with MP3, WMA, and AAC files (not compatible with songs downloaded from Apple iTunes Music Store)
Supertuner IIID (18 FM/6 AM presets)
Digital Sound Processor with 16-band graphic EQ and time alignment
Auditory User Interface
loudness (3 levels)
auxiliary input
three sets of 5-volt preamp outputs
high-and low-pass filters for improved speaker performance
compatible with iPod using Pioneer CDIB100II adapter
satellite radio-ready (XM or SIRIUS tuner, subscription, and antenna required)
remote control
clock
CD frequency response: 5-20,000 Hz
CD signal-to-noise ratio: 94 dB
FM sensitivity: 8 dBf


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so in your opinion this is the best bang for your buck? i mean i get my car back soon, and i want to put all the audio stuff in asap, so i wanna purchase the h/u as soon as possible...

 

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so in your opinion this is the best bang for your buck? i mean i get my car back soon, and i want to put all the audio stuff in asap, so i wanna purchase the h/u as soon as possible...</TD></TR></TABLE>

i checked one website and i saw it for 274.00 u might want to check around u might get it cheaper.

 

my cousin has this deck, JVC KD-LHX500 (touch screen head unit)



and he's willing to give it to me for a small price...you think i should get it? i mean i like it because it's touch screen, but what's teh longevity/reliability of it?

 

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Imo pioneers don't sound as good as kenwoods, are trickier to use, and their crossovers are sloppy.

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is that the kenwood excelon deck you were refering to? because i looked on crutchfield and it was about 350...and i looked on woofersetc.com and it was like 240....so idk..just making sure it was the same deck you were talking about</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, that's the one. 350 is retail, woofersetc is NOT an authorized dealer

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and he's willing to give it to me for a small price...you think i should get it? i mean i like it because it's touch screen, but what's teh longevity/reliability of it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Jv's sound shitty

I've been selling car stereo's for a couple years so "I'm kind of a big deal,"

 

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Imo pioneers don't sound as good as kenwoods, are trickier to use, and their crossovers are sloppy.

Yes, that's the one. 350 is retail, woofersetc is NOT an authorized dealer

Jv's sound shitty

I've been selling car stereo's for a couple years so "I'm kind of a big deal," </TD></TR></TABLE>

what about the dex-p9 with the deq-p9?