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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Hey guys found myself undecided this evening as to which disc is better for everyday street use. I am looking for something that is easy on the foot ,but is strong and reliable. I would also like to know what the difference is with regards to being a 4 puck and 6 puck. I currently have a good pressure plate, i am simply undecided as to what kind of disc i want to use. Opinions and those with experience using either disc are much appreciated.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Both would need some getting use to. On/Off with either. 4 puck will be slightly harsher engagement than the 6 puck. (If they are both made of the same friction material)

Go with the six puck for street

and unsprung, with the harsh engagement the spring retainers are going to fail and springs are going to pop out.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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if you arent making super power i would stick with a regular disc... they are loud, harsh and don't last as long... but if you don't care about all that then the off/on feel can be fun
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 04:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR#132 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

and unsprung, with the harsh engagement the spring retainers are going to fail and springs are going to pop out. </TD></TR></TABLE>

good piece of advice... i hadn't considered that.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 05:03 AM
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you dont have much work done to your car, keep the stock disk. youll be fine. I was running a USED (bbasso nonetheless, hardly any material left on the disk lol) clutch in my R before the rebuild, I had decent power and the clutch never gave me a problem. I was only going to use it temporarily but it worked so well I didnt even bother replacing it. I have a few used disks laying around, ill give one to you.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 05:29 AM
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i ran 11's on a act sprung street disk, it was 4 years old and started slipping not to long after that.with a good strong pressure plate a street disk will hold the power. i have a act unsprung 6 puck in the car now, i like it alot its not hard to drive at all. i actually got the same set up(unsprung 6 puck) in my nissan i drive everyday.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 06:04 AM
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Default Re: ***6 puck vs 4 puck, spring or unsprung?*** (Jon D)

Jon, what do you plan on doing with the car? I've personally never had a problem with OEM clutch discs, although I'm no drag racer.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 06:09 AM
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Jon, you'll hate yourself if you buy a 6 or 4-puck clutch.

Trust me, I have one in my CRX. (Which will be b00sted soon, so it needs something of the sort)

Unless you have alot of power, keep with the street disc. I run the ACT HD/SS (Heavy duty pressure plate/ Street disc) on my coupe, and it has witheld many passes down the 1320 on slicks, and no slipping yet. It's very easy on the foot, and the engagement is very progressive, much like a stock clutch.

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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 07:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clip the apex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you dont have much work done to your car, keep the stock disk. youll be fine. I was running a USED (bbasso nonetheless, hardly any material left on the disk lol) clutch in my R before the rebuild, I had decent power and the clutch never gave me a problem. I was only going to use it temporarily but it worked so well I didnt even bother replacing it. I have a few used disks laying around, ill give one to you. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree, a guy back home had a ACT 6-puck unsprung in a 91 hatch that was comepletely stock and it was either on or off with not much slip. For just driving on the street stick with the OEM jones. On a "normal" car there is no better than OEM.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jon D &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good piece of advice... i hadn't considered that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

stop being a ricer and get a stocker.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

stop being a ricer and get a stocker.</TD></TR></TABLE>

it's not even for my car Christopher Nicastro, just for that you get a good kick in da nutZor when i see j00 on sunday
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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Go 6-puck.

I have run both a sprung and unsprung 6-puck.

Sprung or not doesn't make a difference. Very slightly better response with the unsprung.

I was running an Action 1MS pressure plate and am ow running the 1MD, which made it a lot stiffer. Stiff to the point where there is no noticable "on/off".

However with both disc and plates, there is definitely the ability to control the engagment. No "on/off" as other people have described. And I'm using the Omnipower CMC so I have around 3-4" of pedal travel.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jon D &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's not even for my car Christopher Nicastro, just for that you get a good kick in da nutZor when i see j00 on sunday </TD></TR></TABLE>

whos car is it for? on sunday you will get a flying coke can in the head from about 200 feet away. this time i wont miss.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

whos car is it for? on sunday you will get a flying coke can in the head from about 200 feet away. this time i wont miss. </TD></TR></TABLE>

the clutch is going in friends car, he is using the pressure plate out of my old ITR tranny from mah Si days, the disc was roasted this past weekend using slicks.

P.S. you will miss cause your Daddy Lance wont be present to show you how to throw like the man you aren't
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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oh snap lol
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 08:05 AM
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i'm running a 6-puck sprung clutch on my 98 ITR tranny. i og the clutch from my friend who owns. http://www.infiniteauto.com he uses clutch specialties clutches. i'm using the clutch/flywheel combo and i love it. really easy on the foot, yet can hold a **** load of power.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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I really like the feel of the OEM piece . If you're into that and are a baller then try out the Spoon piece. Feels the same as stock, actually maybe even lighter, and has great engagement. I'm not into on/off, hard to drive type clutches though.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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ahhh its for ol' dub j's car.......
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by attentionwhore &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ahhh its for ol' dub j's car.......</TD></TR></TABLE>

nah dood... its for Brian's car
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Use an OEM or stage 1 from Exedy... A puck clutch should only be used on dedicated track cars. Reason is, it will tear the dash up...you'll hear rattles everywhere, you could possible tear the mounts up...Just happened to a co-worker (I told him so).

Engagement suX...Let your friend know that a puck clutch is not the route he should go...
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Circuit Star-29 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Use an OEM or stage 1 from Exedy... A puck clutch should only be used on dedicated track cars. Reason is, it will tear the dash up...you'll hear rattles everywhere, you could possible tear the mounts up...Just happened to a co-worker (I told him so).

Engagement suX...Let your friend know that a puck clutch is not the route he should go...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've had a 6-puck for over a year with lots of hard launches and such, no rattles.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Just wait
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Circuit Star-29 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Use an OEM or stage 1 from Exedy... A puck clutch should only be used on dedicated track cars. Reason is, it will tear the dash up...you'll hear rattles everywhere... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I can attest to this. My dash sucks *** now. LOL.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Rob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless you have alot of power, keep with the street disc. I run the ACT HD/SS (Heavy duty pressure plate/ Street disc) on my coupe, and it has witheld many passes down the 1320 on slicks, and no slipping yet. It's very easy on the foot, and the engagement is very progressive, much like a stock clutch.

- Derek</TD></TR></TABLE>

Derek, I have a firm belief that the clutch will hold many passes down the track on slicks... but to say your car has done MANY is absurd. It's been like 15 on slicks.

And I don't know why... but your ACT feels as stiff as my 6-puck, man. Your's definately isn't easy on the foot for some reason. Maybe you haven't felt a stock B-series clutch recently.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda Bull &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Derek, I have a firm belief that the clutch will hold many passes down the track on slicks... but to say your car has done MANY is absurd. It's been like 15 on slicks.

And I don't know why... but your ACT feels as stiff as my 6-puck, man. Your's definately isn't easy on the foot for some reason. Maybe you haven't felt a stock B-series clutch recently.</TD></TR></TABLE>

15 is more than 5. More than 5 is 'many.'

And yes, I drove a Eric's ITR. My pedal isn't much stiffer, whereas my leg hurts a little after driving your tin can.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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Yours is stiffer than mine though. Mine just engages all at once.
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