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k20a in EG: Missed 3rd, Now I cant go into 4th?????

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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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Default k20a in EG: Missed 3rd, Now I cant go into 4th?????

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1994 Honda Civic Hatch with k20a motor/trans w/ 25k.

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I was driving and I went to do a 2nd/3rd gear pull. I redlined 2nd and I went to shift into 3rd and i missed it and it grinded, so I pulled back and slammed it into 5th. Right after that things felt horribly wrong, I could not even tell what gear it was in. So I kept the clutch pushed down and brought it to a side street, shut off the car. I messed around with it and got it to go into 1, 2 and 3. I would not go over to where 5, 6 and Reverse are. It would not go back into 4th either. So I was a mile from home, So I started it back up and planned to just drive it home in 1, 2 and 3. So I am driving it back and again I try to move it into 4, wont go. So I try 5 and 6. I now have 5 and 6 again, not sure about reverse because I never had to use it, but I assume reverse is fine. But I still have no 4th.

Does anyone know what would cause me to be BLOCKED out of 4th when I missed 3rd? I have a feeling the issue is with the cable that hooks to the LEFT side of the shifter because that was keeping it from going towards 5/6/R. My trans has always had a slight high rpm 3rd gear grind sometimes.

I am hoping it is something externally on the trans, and at worse I hope I bent a shift fork, would that be possible slamming into 5th???
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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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Default Re: k20a in EG: Missed 3rd, Now I cant go into 4th????? (midwesta)

shift fork imo, i have no 3rd gear at all and i think its the same thing.
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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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Default Re: k20a in EG: Missed 3rd, Now I cant go into 4th????? (vtecsir1)

yeah anyone else?
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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Default Re: k20a in EG: Missed 3rd, Now I cant go into 4th????? (midwesta)

ok... have you looked in the engine bay? All the shifter cables hooked up right?

What aboutt the shifter? ARe they cables hooded up right?

By all means, it does sounds like a stuck/burned shift fork... Are you sure the tranny had fluid inside?

On a k20a eg, taking the tranny out with the motor in the car can be done if you have access to a lift.. or else it is bitch... You also need to take out the intermediate shaft before you remove it. Putting it back in the car, is going to kick your ***... Point of all this.. Take out the whole motor+tranny.. that is much easier.

At the same time... with the power od the k20a, maybe you don;t need 4th anymore
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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Default Re: k20a in EG: Missed 3rd, Now I cant go into 4th????? (Nikos)

haha nah getting the trans out was easy as hell in the EG, way easier than taking a B series trans out.

I already pulled the trans and it is at a local shop (topsetup) being torn apart tomorrow because i dont trust myself working inside the trans lol.

So I will let u know whats up.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 07:42 AM
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Default Re: k20a in EG: Missed 3rd, Now I cant go into 4th????? (midwesta)

subscribed - like to see what the problems really was
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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Default Re: k20a in EG: Missed 3rd, Now I cant go into 4th????? (_adirondackR_)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _adirondackR_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">subscribed - like to see what the problems really was </TD></TR></TABLE>

pulled apart the trans, the problem was the synchro sleeves. more info later.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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Default Re: k20a in EG: Missed 3rd, Now I cant go into 4th????? (midwesta)

See the area that is boxed. Those are suppose to be completely
smooth. Not jagged like mine. The outer sleeve was binding so
I counldn't shift. [Charlie]




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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 05:55 AM
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Default Re: k20a in EG: Missed 3rd, Now I cant go into 4th????? (midwesta)

lol no big deal....only five days to expo
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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it will be ready. are u goin to expo?
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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Default Re: k20a in EG: Missed 3rd, Now I cant go into 4th????? (midwesta)

no im not gonna make it
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Default Re: k20a in EG: Missed 3rd, Now I cant go into 4th????? (grannyEK)

good to know, maybe mine is the same thing.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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Default Re: k20a in EG: Missed 3rd, Now I cant go into 4th????? (midwesta)

damn youre synchros really did get f0cked. i was gonna say your shift forks but think someone already mentioned it... damnit dude. you know i love that motor! i kinda have that problem with my trans with 5th gear but you got LSD dont you..
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