So i went to the dyno the other day....i didnt think id get such low #'s but heres my mod list motor wise:

-skunk2 stage 2 cams
-skunk2 springs/retainer, etc, complete valvetrain
-skunk2 68mm t.b
-skunk2 cam gears
-aem short ram intake
-megan racing 4-1 header 2.5" collector
-test pipe
-greddy midpipe
-spoon axle back
-mild port+polish to the head
-chipped p28 ecu
-fuel press. is around 47psi accordin to the gauge

Note -- This was ran on Bosch platinum spark plugs that are just over a year old, with original cap + rotor and wires. i just replaced the plugs and cleaned the cap and it runs alot smoother, especially at idle.

So, is it me, or should i have gotten better results? im open to any suggestions, any help will be greatly appreciated

 

I'm willing to bet if your car could be tuned (i.e hondata, etc), there would be more power to be gained. Toda header couldn't hurt either. g/l

 

better header, better ecu, perhaps even better intake..camgears....full 2.5inch exhaust....bigger injectors.

but before spending all this money....

Are those plugs the Bosch +4 Platinums or something? We haven't had much luck to be honest with those.... but I guess with items like this...results will vary.

Why not replace the cap and rotor instead of just "glossing them up?"

I might have missed it...but before you go and spend more money....check on the car's health perhaps? Compression/leakdown test?

I will also assume the valves were adjusted when the cams went in?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RagingAngel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">better header, better ecu, perhaps even better intake..camgears....full 2.5inch exhaust....bigger injectors.

but before spending all this money....

Are those plugs the Bosch +4 Platinums or something? We haven't had much luck to be honest with those.... but I guess with items like this...results will vary.

Why not replace the cap and rotor instead of just "glossing them up?"

I might have missed it...but before you go and spend more money....check on the car's health perhaps? Compression/leakdown test?

I will also assume the valves were adjusted when the cams went in?</TD></TR></TABLE>

im not sure i can do better on the exhaust except for the header part.

Just so everyone is aware, this motor is a 96spec typeR, with 61,xxx kms on it (38,xxx miles). New cap and rotor along with wires will be on their way, i just temporarily cleaned them up a bit.

yes the valves we ajusted twice already since i got the cams put in.

 

what are the compression numbers?

low mileage motors doesn't mean much....

It might have been abused from the beginning and not show the tell-tale signs when the valve cover was removed.

 

ill get a compression test done after all this to see where those numbers stand.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RagingAngel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">better header, better ecu, perhaps even better intake..camgears....full 2.5inch exhaust....bigger injectors.

but before spending all this money....

Are those plugs the Bosch +4 Platinums or something? We haven't had much luck to be honest with those.... but I guess with items like this...results will vary.

Why not replace the cap and rotor instead of just "glossing them up?"

I might have missed it...but before you go and spend more money....check on the car's health perhaps? Compression/leakdown test?

I will also assume the valves were adjusted when the cams went in?</TD></TR></TABLE>


sound like your telling him to change his entire set up. What's wrong with skunks cam gears?

 

i'd check your compression first and get the head (valves) checked.

i am in progress of installing my cams.
i did compression test. it read. 230 180 230 230.
#2 cyl was leaking.. in the valves both intake and exh.
pulled my head out and took it to machine shop for internal installation and clean up all the nasty stuff and fix the leak.
my car dyno'd at pretty low number. it was stock motor with bolt ons and only got 165 whp and 120 tq. about 15-20 whp less than what i expected. and i am pretty sure it has something to do with leaking valves.
.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by realis9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sound like your telling him to change his entire set up. What's wrong with skunks cam gears?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nothing wrong with the camgears...I just missed it on his OP.



But everything else I stand by what I said.

 

Do a compression test to double check everything is alright.

Are you on stock injectors?

What did you use to tune with?

Are you on stock compression? Because a compression bump wouldn't hurt with those cams.

 

cool. I was thinking about getting some that's why .

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by realis9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cool. I was thinking about getting some that's why .</TD></TR></TABLE>

i was getting some getting getting some


Modified by itr1244 at 12:21 PM 6/4/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 43! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm willing to bet if your car could be tuned (i.e hondata, etc), there would be more power to be gained. Toda header couldn't hurt either. g/l </TD></TR></TABLE>

I just happen to have a brand new s200 for sale, PM me if you want it.

 

thanks for the replies guys.

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I just happen to have a brand new s200 for sale, PM me if you want it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

for some reason my pm's dont really work on here...email me at tvtec@hotmail.com for more info if u can

So the numbers i got, is that normal for my current setup? i know if i change stuff with better parts ill get better results, but i also want to know if these numbers are good for my mods?

 

spent all that money on parts, only to buy a "chipped" ECU without TUNING it. Never understood the concept behind that. for some reason everyone thinks because an ECU is "chipped" they are gonna make 300whp. maybe I missed something somewhere.

 

i think u did miss somethin here...cause i never said i aimed to 300whp...all i was goin for was 190whp..

 

He's just being sarcastic.

A compression and leak down test definitely won't hurt. I'd recommend some sort of engine management, tuning, and a nice compression bump will definitely help.

A better header and velocity stack would make this a pretty solid setup.

 

Yes I didnt mean you were looking for 300whp. I was leaning more toward the fact that so many people run "chipped" ECUs without getting them tuned, and wonder why their numbers arent what they should be.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wildoutwhitegsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do a compression test to double check everything is alright.

Are you on stock injectors?

What did you use to tune with?

Are you on stock compression?</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

With as much money that you threw in on junk parts, you probably could have got more power without the cams and cam gears.

I would rather have a setup like mine......simple and reliable

Custom header & exhaust 2.5"
Mugen intake
SMS cat
Hondata S200
FPR

I made almost the same power u did on a dyno jet in 70 degree weather

 

hey wuz up? the chipped ecu came from where? was this some just drop in program, or was this crome tuned?

 

You should have it looked at, change the plugs and ignition setup and little stuff and see how it does. A friend of mine with a ITR put down 178whp 120wtq with only AEM intake and DC header and no axle back exhaust. I bet you can gain a few hp with a tune up and better plugs, im sure hondata wouldn't hurt either.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deanh8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A friend of mine with a ITR put down 178whp 120wtq with only AEM intake and DC header and no axle back exhaust. </TD></TR></TABLE>

blah....

peak numbers only tell so little of the story.....

irregardless, the motor's health needs to be determined first.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by syn inside &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey wuz up? the chipped ecu came from where? was this some just drop in program, or was this crome tuned? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Likely some drop-in program, otherwise whoever did the tune on crome should be fired....

 

Yes, a PROGRAMABLE tuning program(ie: Hondata, AEM EMS, Apexi Power FC, etc.) would give you/your tuner better control over your car. Since every car reacts different a chipped program could hurt the motor or at least not let it run to its full potential. Get a better header too.

 

UUMM time to put a K20 in there