b16 i/e
at or close to wot the engine bogs.. esp if i am in too high of a gear.
Even on the parkway this morning in 5th gear at 75-80 wot caused it to bog.
The rps dont go down at all they just do not go up.

Fuel pump? its a 2000 w/ 115k on the chassis, that doesnt make sence.
The filter is only about a year old. Air filter is clean. CEL on for o2 sensor, but i would like to run a diag to see if there is anothor code up now. Also my vss doesnt work when its cold so vtec also wont work for a couple miles till the car is driven and warms up, i doubt that makes a difference tho

any ideas?

 

bogging can be caused by many different things, but here is a way to narrow your problems down. first does the car also bogg if it is not in gear, or is it only under load. if you can duplicate the problem with vehicle stationary then pull the intake off and hold the throttle open till it boggs, when it starts to bogg spray a shot of CARB. cleaner into the throttle body. if it revs up then your problem is fuel related. if it doesn't make a difference then i would look at your timing marks and also look at your distributor. sometimes if the shaft in the dist. has play it will rev limit the car to like 3 grand or so. try these things and let me know what it does and i may be able to help you further.

 

i do believe its only under load.. thats a good idea, ill put it on jack stands n try what u said.. thanks

 

ok well its doin it more often now.. n the dizzy rotor looks to be a little rusted.. im startin to think its a missfire n the rotor is the culprit

 

rotor didnt fix the prob

When i advanced the timing it helped a little.. and ideas ppl?

 

If you have a fuel pump I would try it. In my 93 DX Civic it was fine with the stock motor. However, as soon as I swapped it out for a B20Z2 it seamed like the motor had no *****. Someone suggested that I change the fuel pump and I did it. It was like a night and day difference too. So you never know, might just be your fuel pump.

 

thats what i thought at first, but its a 2000 chasis

bump ,any more?

 

Well, I didn't think so at first myself. I just happen to have a extra fuel pump and was like, expletive it, I will change it and see what happens. **** you not, the motor came to life. So I guessed that the fuel pump was ok when it had the D15B7 in it however, as soon as the B20Z2 need more fuel then the stock D15B7 did the fuel pump could handle the load.

 

Have you detailed the car lately?

Start the engine and grab a spray bottle with water in it and spary down the plug wires, does that make it bog more?

Does it run rough at idle?

Missing under a load is ONLY caused by secondary ignition. So the means everything after the coil. So think small, plugs and wires are the most common cause of a misfire. So check them before you go off on some wild goose chase for a fuel problem. Most fuel problems will throw a CEL, and most will also cause the car to run rough all the time.


What is the code for the O2 sensor, there are several?

And what makes you so sure that it is the VSS that is inoperative when the car is cold?

 

im havin a problem just like this, i just replaced the dizzy cap , rotor, and sparkplugs. they helped a lil but didnt cure the problem, but im still waiting on my new fuel pump and wires.

 

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Why a new fuel pump? If your car does not "bog" all of the time then it is most likely not a fuel problem.

 

My Civic didn't bog all the time. It drove fine when you would be driving normal. As soon as you went wot it would act shitty.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Scorchin Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My Civic didn't bog all the time. It drove fine when you would be driving normal. As soon as you went wot it would act shitty.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your car is much older. Your pump is much weaker. And if you would have read my post I said MOST problems like this are NOT fuel related.

I'm trying to diagnose something and you are throwing parts at it. The car needs to be tested to determine what is wrong, not just have parts, time and MONEY thorwn at it until it goes away.

Go post in a thread where you can actually be of some help.

 

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Your car is much older. Your pump is much weaker. And if you would have read my post I said MOST problems like this are NOT fuel related.

I'm trying to diagnose something and you are throwing parts at it. The car needs to be tested to determine what is wrong, not just have parts, time and MONEY thorwn at it until it goes away.

Go post in a thread where you can actually be of some help.</TD></TR></TABLE>Don't be a *** bro! I was just throwing my $0.02 worth of info that I went through. Besides, what if he has planes on changing the fuel pump out anyway. How would he be through away time and money on that. I am sorry if your the all mighty Honda God and that I have upset you.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Scorchin Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't be a *** bro! I was just throwing my $0.02 worth of info that I went through. Besides, what if he has planes on changing the fuel pump out anyway. How would he be through away time and money on that. I am sorry if your the all mighty Honda God and that I have upset you.</TD></TR></TABLE>


I'm not being an ***. You were when you said "well my car did this". I apprciate your 2 cents, that wasn't the problem. It is when you try to argue against diagnosis.

Oh and I'm not the "Honda God". I work for Lincoln.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM-97CX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have you detailed the car lately?

Start the engine and grab a spray bottle with water in it and spary down the plug wires, does that make it bog more?

Does it run rough at idle?

Missing under a load is ONLY caused by secondary ignition. So the means everything after the coil. So think small, plugs and wires are the most common cause of a misfire. So check them before you go off on some wild goose chase for a fuel problem. Most fuel problems will throw a CEL, and most will also cause the car to run rough all the time.


What is the code for the O2 sensor, there are several?

And what makes you so sure that it is the VSS that is inoperative when the car is cold?</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok well i found some water around one of the plugs... i dried it up n that helped, but it still does it a little.

the code for the o2 is the primary slow response

now i know the vss is bad b/ the speedo doesnt work for a little while, then it eventually starts workin after the car has been driven for a while, while the speedo isnt workin vtec also doesnt engage

 

I'd pull all of the plugs to be sure that they are dry. The washer around them doesn't act as the greatest seal sometimes.

That O2 code has nothing to do with this problem so we can ignore the CEL now.

And that sounds to me like it could be a VSS.

Next step after being sure that the plugs and wires are dry, start the car and spray the wires with a bottle set on mist. Spray the entire wire, if it gets worse then your wires are the problem.

 

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Why a new fuel pump? If your car does not "bog" all of the time then it is most likely not a fuel problem. </TD></TR></TABLE>

naw mine does bog even when its not in gear, my buddy had a similar problem and fuel pump worked for him. even if its not the fuel pump, im good to go wit my new walbro 255

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM-97CX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd pull all of the plugs to be sure that they are dry. The washer around them doesn't act as the greatest seal sometimes.

That O2 code has nothing to do with this problem so we can ignore the CEL now.

And that sounds to me like it could be a VSS.

Next step after being sure that the plugs and wires are dry, start the car and spray the wires with a bottle set on mist. Spray the entire wire, if it gets worse then your wires are the problem.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well i got 4 new plugs, im goin to put them in n if that doesnt help ill spray the wires like u said maybe its that... funny how this prob just started the other day when it was raining..

Now about the VSS, it wouldnt have anything to do w/ the car not running good correct?

 

i have now replaced the cap, rotor n plugs... still the same

Anyone on the jersey area that has an obd2 b16 that i could use ur dizzy just to see if thats my prob please let me know.. ill throw ya a few $$

Thanks

 

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well i got 4 new plugs, im goin to put them in n if that doesnt help ill spray the wires like u said maybe its that... funny how this prob just started the other day when it was raining..

Now about the VSS, it wouldnt have anything to do w/ the car not running good correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>


This started when it was raining? It's the plug wires, replace them. There is a hole in the insulation and they are shorting when they get wet.

The VSS would not cause the car to misfire.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM-97CX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This started when it was raining? It's the plug wires, replace them. There is a hole in the insulation and they are shorting when they get wet.

The VSS would not cause the car to misfire.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah b4 i leave the office i wana try to spray them and see if that does anything