I knwo its not like changin an air filter or cd player, but how easy is an auto to manual conversion. I have a DA9, auto, and supposing i got a YS1 manual mounts wiring harness ect. all the parts i needed, what kind of timeframe am i lookiin at and how reliable would it be assuming it was all put together properly

 

if you have any mechanical skills its not hard at all...two day at most...my car used to be an automatic....and its been a manual for quite some time now

 

you will also need a new pr4 manual ECU

 

why will you?

 

i think for a few reasons, speed sensor, ect, you also need the wiring harness, half shaft, flywheel, slutch, guage clutster if you are picky, a trim piece, shift boot, shift linkage, shifter....

 

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http://www.hondata.com/ecus.html

 

your automatic ecu will work...i know cause i was using mine for over a year....speed sensor is still a speed sensor...independent of which tranny is accelerating the car...you dont need any wiring harness...

 

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http://www.hondata.com/ecus.html

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your link means what

 

the only reason i would think you would need ti is if you install a new guage and want the speedo to work (from what ive heard) and secondly i think it might have an effect on how fuel is injected

 

explain your logic for why it would alter fuel maps....have you seen the fuel maps for an automatic integra vs a manual? they are identical... the manual vss and automatic are the same....interchangeable....in fact...im using my auto one because the manual one i had was trash...


Modified by lVlemphizStylez at 7:27 PM 6/3/2006

 

To be honest, it's pointless. A fun project, but a waste of money IMO

 

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it really isnt that expensive one...and two...i dont think the OP was asking that...

 

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scroll down a little bit to (2). you need a manul transmission ecu to run hondata. they are different from the auto ecu's

 

how about if i told you all it took to make a auto ecu a manual one was one simple chip....??? and i didnt see where hondata was mentioned in this thread? The two ecus use the same board...you can chip a manual to be an auto and an auto to be a manual....so buyin a whole new ecu is a waste

 

you're still gonna need the manual ecu

http://www.team-integra.net/fo...Topic

 

you can post link after link all you want...im talking from experience...not internet webpages

the auto ecu can be retained...end of story...if you desire for the one code it throws to be removed...the auto ecu can EASILY be chipped to a manual...and the code that it throws in NO way effects how the car drives...the ecu merely looks for the TCM which isnt present anymore

 

the auto and manual ecu aren't the same. just because it works doesn't mean it;s the right part for the swap

 

to the OP: ive done this swap before...and im telling you the auto ecu can be retained....and if you want the code to be removed the Auto Ecu can be CHIPPED TO A MANUAL...making it VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL to a manual ecu...you can take my foolish advice from experience or go by methods of those who have no experience with the swap...im done

the only differences between the ecu's is the auto ecu communicates with the tcm...everything else is the same...ignition tables...fuel maps...all same

 

Think of the manual ECU as being the base, and the auto as being added on to control the trans. THATS IT.

 

i did the swap on my da 20k ago you will need as follows

5speed cable tranny also a flywheel cover.

shift linkege and all the mounting hardware.

5 speed half shaft.

axels are the same.

as far as the ecu i ran my car on the auto ecu for a month unplug the TCM or jus find a 92-95 ls 5speed ecu. 94-95 rev limiter is higher think the fuel maps are the same or similar.

pedals_ are the most pain the @ss part to do you see when you do it, and new clutch cable the hole is pre-marked under the dash to drill out with a hole saw.

clutch kit wat evr brand you would like also all hardware flyweels bolts and pressure plate bolts.

auto to 5 speed mount&lt;~~~ now as far as this the only company i know of who makes it is innovative mounts. i tried using a stock 5 speed mount and found out you have to shim it to make it work so i oppted for the mount instead.

Now as far as wiring all that is needed to do is keep the selecter in park and tuck it away under the center console. or you can go to g2ic.com and search the wiring info to get rid of the selecter, wire in a clutch switch and bypass the shift interlock switch. hope this info helps you. P.s if you have acces to a lift and a service manual and a ETM it helps in the end.

 

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thank you...some people find that hard to grasp however...

 

When you sit and think about it, the auto ECU does more than its supposed to, so youre getting more bang for your buck ^^

 

Good topic - I just picked an auto DA for a good price but I plan on doing a manual swap.
I only saw an innovative mount for the 94-01 auto/manual conversion and where can you get the manual "chip" for the ECU? Thanks

 

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K i wasnt sure, your right, i just thought that maybe the fuel maps would be different so as to help keep the engine running when in drive at a complete stop, but anyway thanks for your help, im not trying to tell you wrong so dont be all defensive about my assumption, it said it was an assumption not that it was fact


To the guy who said ti was pointless and a waste of money...
right now my auto tranny is having huge internal clutch issues.... I KNOW ITS AN AUTO BUT LOOK IT UP THERE ARE CLUTCHES INSIDE THE TRANNY ITS NOT A CONVENTIONAL PLANETARY GEAR TRANNY
That being said, auto tranny work is about as much as it costs to do the entire conversion, and I really would like to have a manual car. Pointless??? I dont think so, pointless is adding a stupid park bench to the top of your trunk...


to another poster: Thanks for the info of what you needed, i never thought about a flywheel cover, i just assumed that the flywheel would attach to the crank the same way the torque converter did

 

just go to the g2ic.com forums. theres a detailed write-up on the whole procedure containing a parts list and basic guidelines/instructions. i dont feel like searching for it...so u do it haha.