This will not be the typical I'm crxbart and I hate H22 swaps in EF chassis post. I have done a H22 swap in a EG now, and have gathered much insight from the experience to share with all of you. A H22 EG Sedan, just rolled out of my shop a few hours ago. Not only is the extra heft of the H drivetran a major drawback. I can point out several other notable problems I have came across firsthand and will warn you on.

SIZE

I did the swap in an EG chassis that has a substantually bigger engine bay than a CRX/EF chassis. That being said it was a major squeeze play, there is not much room to work on anything in that chassis. I would hate to do a cam swap/timming belt job on it while in the car, if it is even possible at all. The drivetran I was using ultilized a JDM LSD tranny. With the new Hasport mounts I had to notch the frame for it to fit because theJDM LSD tranny is wider than normal. There is a 1/8" clearence on either side from the mount to the frame rail. Needless to say I'm glad the car is gone, and I hope I never see it again. It was the biggest PITA swap I've ever done. Now imagine it in a CRX chassis. I had talked to Ryan droppedcrxsi, and he assured me the K fits in the CRX bay with pleny of room to work on.

Weight/and weight distribution

This next item is partially somewhat debatable. The part up for debate s the actual weight difference of H vs. K. I've heard anywhere from 25lbs, to 85lbs. All I know is thet is the heaviest honda drivetran, I've ever dealt wit, and it is noticable. The next portion is not debatable the engine placement on the pass. side, way back in the chassis is great for road racing, street driving or auto-xing. It should help offset the driver weight, for one, and also being so far back, it will also help the weight distribution. The H motor is tall and heavy on the driver's side, conventionally mounted and will add more to the front of the chassis.

Power delivery

I drove the EG for the first time, and I ws impressed I will say that. It was ill faded though. I was astounded that it fryed tires in three gears under normal use, even with an LSD. I wasn't clutch dumping or any stupid ****. 10mph roll nothing but wheelspin. On the top end it seems to run out of umph. This pretty much the opposite of what you want in a front drive car for any situation, drag, street, or road race. The K power delivery is more linear down low, with still a great top end, to keep you going. The only K car I've driven to date was a 06 Si and I felt it wasn't powerful enough in the heavy car it was in, because the way the power is delivered it seemed kinda sluggish, it is such smooth power. In reallity I found out later that the 2900lb behemouth, runs 14.2 second quaters stock. Thats pretty quick for the heaviest Civic to date. Imagine that in a chassis 900lbs lighter.

Aftermarket support

The k series is a new engine developed for the masses, in the new Civic, and RSX platforms. The power is not yet tapped out, on these engines and new product is developed everyday. The addition of VTC provides for better output, than was previously achievable with earlier versions also. The H on the other hand was used in a Prelude, a big touring car, that really was never good for much, other than a nice sporty comfortable unit to go on trips with or commute to work. There were many less preludes modified for performance, when compared to Civics, and RSXes, and it is an old motor, and I'm not aware of anyone currently researching making new parts for them. It really just isn't a good choice of a motor, expecially because of that fact. You would honestly be better off building a 2.0l b series, than messing with the H22. There never really was a market for parts for that motor, and there still isn't.

Overall the H IMHO is not a good engine to swap in a EF chassis, under my firsthand experience. It doesn't look good on paper either. It doesn't seem to fit well int the EF engie bay either, it looks way worse than the EG I did. Spend the extra money, buy the K series. My K mounts should be here tomorrow, where are yours at?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx2nr822 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">k20a3 is crap.......if your going to get a k series, get the k20a2 or k20a. Dont even waste your time with the other one. And yes, the H series will prolly cost you ALOT less, but with minor mods you will put down some serious power with the K swap. You need to choose to be baller, or not to be a baller.

P.S. Y does your sig say u have a 91 civic LX and u live in illinois? Never heard of a civic lx in that year.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was talking about the lowest model just to start out. : )... Its actraully a Sedan L0l.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JLefevers &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go h22 b/c it is way cheaper and you build an h22 and it will haul ***** </TD></TR></TABLE>

Cool cool

 

not my quote... "A K in a rex is better than sex" - John

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EfSedanLove &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was talking about the lowest model just to start out. : )... Its actraully a Sedan L0l.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dear God, I was hoping it wasn't true and wanted to give u the benefit of the doubt...... haha j/k a k in a 4 door EF would be a nasty sleeper! ZZZZzzzzzZZZZ

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lvcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bench racing FTL</TD></TR></TABLE>