well as some of may remember i was having some misfire issues at like 18psi, with plugs gapped as low as .018


well i pulled it all off (MSD 6AL and 2 step) and wired the dizzy back to factory and what do you know............boosts fine, and i raised the boost a bit more and no issues.

it even ran great on the spray as well, which was my major concern

thanks guys


MSD sucks

 

What a suprise ..ive had nothing but bad luck with msd,I dont know what the problem is with their boxes

 

another reason we only sell M&W boxes..

 

It isnt just hondas either..I ran 2 of their boxes parellel on my old rx7 and they went out on me..Switched to mallory and had no more issues..

 

I tought the 6a box's were ment for lower power cars. I mean why would you put a 6a box on a 450-500 hp car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92cxturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I tought the 6a box's were ment for lower power cars. I mean why would you put a 6a box on a 450-500 hp car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

the stock ignition can handle 450-500hp and this "aftermarket high performance unit" cant even handle that? or should i say its not that it cant handle it but the car just breaks up when you're running it weather you got 180hp allmotor or 700hp turbo....even my rx7 was only about 180hp allmotor if i was lucky,,and i got it cause it was revving to over 10k rpm,,and isnt that the point of msd,to come in and handle what the stock ignition cant?

 

I use an MSD box and was thinking of pulling it out with all the issues everyone has but decided to keep it in to see if I do get issues. I use a Crane coil (LX91) so what about just using an external coil and no box? I would think that would be sufficient for most of us?

Thoughts?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ladysman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I use an MSD box and was thinking of pulling it out with all the issues everyone has but decided to keep it in to see if I do get issues. I use a Crane coil (LX91) so what about just using an external coil and no box? I would think that would be sufficient for most of us?

Thoughts?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think if you're not revving over 9000revs and not making more then 700hp the complete stock ignition would be fine..

 

great to hear you got her fixed, sounded mean last night

 

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thanks, bro. im glad it IS running right now


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">another reason we only sell M&W boxes.. </TD></TR></TABLE>


i need to hit you up about those art


also what else can i do now for a 2 step? i have hondata but i really dont want to use thier fuel cut 2 step. the only other choice i have is to launch it off the rev limiter now

 

everyone talks about using stock ignition but what about the coil?

 

FYI, I was running 10.4@140 last year with a stock ignition and a blaster 3 coil revving to 9600. Guys have made more power than me with a stock coil.
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Having that said, M&W is next on the list

 

i thougth with msd u are spose to gap higher?

 

i guess i am an exception to the rule. sorry to hear about that and glad it is running better now. you guys got me all skerd now.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by importdude2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thougth with msd u are spose to gap higher?</TD></TR></TABLE>


anything higher than a .020 on my car WITH the MSD and it was popcorn,


all i did was remove it, and i am boosting better than ever

also i tried to run like 22psi WITH the MSD and my car sounded like ***, well i hit it last night and it pulled like train

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrbsponge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


anything higher than a .020 on my car WITH the MSD and it was popcorn,


all i did was remove it, and i am boosting better than ever

also i tried to run like 22psi WITH the MSD and my car sounded like ***, well i hit it last night and it pulled like train </TD></TR></TABLE>
ur making me get worried

ill be putting out 240 and 8=9 psi only i hope it doesnt effect much?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i guess i am an exception to the rule. sorry to hear about that and glad it is running better now. you guys got me all skerd now.</TD></TR></TABLE> me 2 i have had it on my car for like 2 years now

 

some people have had good and bad luck on their boxes. im running it on my built sohc and haven't had any problems

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by importdude2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ur making me get worried

ill be putting out 240 and 8=9 psi only i hope it doesnt effect much?</TD></TR></TABLE>


i seemed to have no issues with it on lower boost settings, just anything from like 16-18+psi

i have had the box for 3 years, maybe its just an issue with that particular box, all i know is im glad to be able to make a full gear pull with no breaking up

 

If I remember correctly all MSD boxes use capacitive discharge. Capacitive discharge does not work well with boost. A boosted car wants a long duration spark, because of the increased density (and latent heat) of a rich, compressed mixture. CD spark tends to blow out under boost or rich fuel mixtures.

I learned all of this after my MSD DIS-2 ignition install. It was a little surprising to install a "performance" ignition box and have the car run like crap afterwards. All the DIS-2 ever did for me was acellerate plug wear.

 

Sorry to bring this back from the dead.

My car died today right after I started it, and I got no spark. Checked the ignitor, jecked the cap & rotor for corrosion, everything was fine. I have an MSD 6AL box with 1,000 miles on it and its mounted under my dash - so I was like, Oh hell no it can't be the MSD. So just to rule it out, I wired the ignitor signal straight to the blaster3 coil, boom car starts right up. How does a box with 1,000 miles on it die like that? Granted the car has been sitting for 2 years, but its mounted inside the car! I'm pissed. I was gonna just buy a new one, but I only use it for the rev limiter. I think it'll be better in the long run if I just use neptune for the rev limit. Man I was pissed! Just wanted to share...


DON'T GET MSD

 

It depends upon which "box". I had a Digital 7 for 5 years, and helped immensely. But the Mallory systems work as well.

 

just took mine off also and fix my ignition misfiring only at 300 hp

 

Ya Im a bit skerd now too. Ive had my 6A for over 4 years. 19 psi. No issues

 

What's wrong with the Hondata 2 step?