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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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do strut bars actually do anything. cuz i heard that they were just flash and looks but would they be worth it if i had some cash left over from a sway bar.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Definitely not the first thing I would choose to spend my money on . . . far from it.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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well im was gonna get this rear sway bar from summit racing. then get a cheapo strut bar like megan racing.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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i was looking at JDM Password's 3 point front strut bar. So they don't do that much for chassis flex such as the one found in a del sol?
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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by excivicboy96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well im was gonna get this rear sway bar from summit racing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What rear sway bar?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">then get a cheapo strut bar like megan racing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wouldn't bother in that case. They use threaded rod ends that pivot on their bars. If you're going to buy a chassis stiffening piece, I'd at least do it right the first time and get something that has some structural rigidity.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DeadEnd9009 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was looking at JDM Password's 3 point front strut bar. So they don't do that much for chassis flex such as the one found in a del sol?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The del Sol doesn't have any less chassis rigidity than a Civic at the points that "strut bars" attempt to stiffen. The del Sol's problem is that it doesn't have a roof integrated into the unibody . . .
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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku

this one. is there anything else i could get that would help with cornering
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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by excivicboy96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku</TD></TR></TABLE>
ST makes decent sway bars, though I don't have any personal experience with that 19mm model. I'd be interested to see the mounting setup; the '96-00 Civic has a notoriously weak rear subframe and I wouldn't want to risk tear-out.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there anything else i could get that would help with cornering</TD></TR></TABLE>
What all do you have already?
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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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bone stock right mow
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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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first thing would be good coilovers / spring and shock combo.... then be sways.. front a rear.. then bars?? IMO the best strut bars are cusco and EM racing.. EM racing you car get the monkey bars for the trunk
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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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i looked on my car and i already have front sway bars
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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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get a aftermarket bigger one if you dont... all come stock with one
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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by excivicboy96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bone stock right mow</TD></TR></TABLE>
If I were you, I would do things in this order:

- dampers, springs, and alignment first
- tires and wheels next
- then sway bars
- brakes
- bushings and strut braces last

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CGP-EJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMO the best strut bars are cusco and EM racing.. EM racing you car get the monkey bars for the trunk </TD></TR></TABLE>
I disagree. The EM Racing stuff also uses pivoting threaded rod ends, and most of the stuff they make is useless crap, particularly that trunk garbage. The "best" strut tower braces are solid pieces with no pivoting joints - like OEM Honda, Neuspeed, PasswordJDM, Mugen, etc. Even the benefits from those pieces are still marginal compared to the more important active suspension components (springs, sway bars, and dampers).
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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by excivicboy96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
this one. is there anything else i could get that would help with cornering</TD></TR></TABLE>

Honest opinion, try out autocrossing if you have one near your area, then you would feel and appreciate more what strut bars and sway bars can do for you.

You could get a good sway bar and still end up understeering... that or spinning out.

but anyway if you were to buy strut bars, get all four. To me, I have one 1 piece and the rest, those cheapo type bars. I would say they still make a good difference.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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is there something cheap i could do right now. not just suspension wise
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Old May 30, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by excivicboy96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there something cheap i could do right now. not just suspension wise</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you just itching to spend money or something? There is nothing "cheap" that is really going to help you much. Cars are an expensive hobby.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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im addicted to spending money
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Old May 30, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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yo if u want a strut bar holla at me bro make me a offer
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Old May 30, 2006 | 06:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by excivicboy96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im addicted to spending money</TD></TR></TABLE>
So why not spend it on something worthwile?
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Old May 30, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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yah i probably could. there are 10$ hookers in the closest city but i dont wanna spend that much to get an std. what about a short shifter? skunk2?
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Old May 30, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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save it and get a good suspension set up
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