My cousin has a 1997 R and just installed Skunk2 Pro2 cams but were having a really hard time trying to make it idle. It has a Apexi VAFC and is running the stock itr ecu. Anyone have any experince with the Skunk2 Pro2's to make it idle, and another question is should this ECU be able to handle these cams, any help would be appreciative

 

Pro2's in a stock motor running on a stock ecu? Why?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pro2's in a stock motor running on a stock ecu? Why?</TD></TR></TABLE>

its not a stock motor bro, block is bored/sleeved to 84.5mm, the only thing that is stock is basically the ECU.

 

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Even more of a reason not to run the stock ECU. Get it tuned!

 

Oh ok, gotchya.

 

im gonna try to advance the dist. tomorrow, and try advancin the cam gears also, any other ides how to make this bitch idle, it has an VAFC but i have no clue how to mess with that, what is "wide throttle" and "narrow throttle"?

 

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DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING. You ******* with it is only going to make matters worse.

If the motor is built and bored and sleeved and etc, why the hell is he only using a VAFC? Get a Hondata, Crome or Uberdata and get it professionally tuned on a dyno.

 

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DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING. You ******* with it is only going to make matters worse.

If the motor is built and bored and sleeved and etc, why the hell is he only using a VAFC? Get a Hondata, Crome or Uberdata and get it professionally tuned on a dyno.</TD></TR></TABLE>

forsure , i still cant believe your running a stock ecu

 

to answer your question, those cams SHOULD purrrr at idle. even with the stock ecu and injectors.

but the big question is what else did you do while installing the cams??? did the afc go in at the same time? if so, take it out.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by trickeng &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to answer your question, those cams SHOULD purrrr at idle. even with the stock ecu and injectors.

but the big question is what else did you do while installing the cams??? did the afc go in at the same time? if so, take it out. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Skunk 2 pro's have a lopey idle because of the Large primarys they have, even with good tuning with hondata or chrome etc. you will still have somewhat of that lopey idle.

 

but the car should still idle and not stall out.

when he says pro i take that as pro-series which are available in different stages, and with stg 1-2 i've never had a lopey idle and with 3's its very little. ????

sounds like he has something else going on to me.

 

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sounds like he has something else going on to me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

your prolly right , do a compression test etc.

 

Mike thanks for the info that i already know about the new Pro series cams have larger primary lobes(mike you retard), the Apexi VAFC was already in the car, we put in a friends chipped P28 ECU and it helped a little, but still sometimes wanna die, we just need to take this thing to a dyno and tune it something better than VAFC, think Hondata or Crome. There is nothing wrong with the motor, its just the tuning that is needed for this bad boy to idle

 

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probably because the baseline on the ecu was not made for toni's set up how many times do i have to tell these ametures , one ecu DOESNT fit all

you NEED atleast a basemap with those cams for them to idle...SEARCH next time

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by trickeng &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to answer your question, those cams SHOULD purrrr at idle. even with the stock ecu and injectors. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong. There is alot of overlap present on those cams causing a lack of vacuum in the manifold throwing off the MAP sensor reading.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by trickeng &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but the car should still idle and not stall out.

when he says pro i take that as pro-series which are available in different stages, and with stg 1-2 i've never had a lopey idle and with 3's its very little. ????

sounds like he has something else going on to me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It SHOULD idle and stall out. Especially if you installed the cams 'straight up'. The Pro Series camshafts are very aggressive. Dont be fooled by the Stage #'s. That Stage 2 is not made to be a 'drop in' cam. Retard the intake cam 1-2 degree's and take away fuel at idle UNTIL you can get it to the dyno.

 

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probably because the baseline on the ecu was not made for toni's set up how many times do i have to tell these ametures , one ecu DOESNT fit all

you NEED atleast a basemap with those cams for them to idle...SEARCH next time </TD></TR></TABLE>

ametures?!? haha i think i taught you everything you know till this day, oh yea, you wanna run Toni now? didnt think so haha ****** wannabe

anyways, we finally got this bitch to idle like around 1300 rpm

 

good info....running into the same situation...but I am running Crane Stage 3 Cams..... the block is 81.50 and trying to make it idle.......

 

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oh yea, you wanna run Toni now? didnt think so haha ****** wannabe
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actually,, YES I DO, im waiting on some parts

 

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actually,, YES I DO, im waiting on some parts</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha waiting for the last year and a half i see, haha we done with racing with you man, NEXT

 

well see