Love the s2k, but the seats...
Hi, I don't own an s2k, but i'm looking at buying a new civic Si or leasing an s2k with the intent to buy. I would not normally even consider a lease, but w/ payments of only $299 for three years with a residual under the private resale value, I'm suddenly interested. Even w/ the $3500 down, it still comes in at sticker price without tax after you buy it. And, I can save most of the $19000 residual(resale for excellent cond.=$22000)over the lease period to avoid having to finance at the end, too. Am I missing something that is going to catch me in the long run?
Also, is there an aftermarket item to replace the S2000 interior piece behind the driver's seat? I really have to get more recline out of the seat to be comfortable. It's bad enough that I'm seriously considering the Si instead.
Thanks
Also, is there an aftermarket item to replace the S2000 interior piece behind the driver's seat? I really have to get more recline out of the seat to be comfortable. It's bad enough that I'm seriously considering the Si instead.
Thanks
Behind the seat is a roll bar...which is a good thing in a convertable. Behind the roll bar on the driver's side is the gas tank. The car feels like it was built for smaller Japanese drivers...my 5'3" ex said she was very comfy in the seats.
It's not the g thing at all actually. When I scoot the seat back to a comfortable spot, the seatback won't recline enough. If I scoot the seat up to recline, my knees are in the dash. So sad
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I wouldn't recommend this to anyone, not even for lower initial payments. If you calculate how much money you'll have spent in a 3 year lease, and then how much they are going to rape you once those 3 years are over, you will have paid much more than the car will ever be worth.
If you don't think you can afford it by just financing it to buy on a 48 or even 60 month plan, try for 72 months. With good credit Honda may finance you or turn to a credit union.
As for the seats, I am 6'1" and fit in the car fine. There are many people over 6ft tall that have an S2000 and drive it without trouble.
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I wouldn't recommend this to anyone, not even for lower initial payments. If you calculate how much money you'll have spent in a 3 year lease, and then how much they are going to rape you once those 3 years are over, you will have paid much more than the car will ever be worth.
If you don't think you can afford it by just financing it to buy on a 48 or even 60 month plan, try for 72 months. With good credit Honda may finance you or turn to a credit union.
As for the seats, I am 6'1" and fit in the car fine. There are many people over 6ft tall that have an S2000 and drive it without trouble.
Check this link for the NICE S2000 lease:
http://automobiles.honda.com/t...n=new
Actually, the total of payments, w/ tax, and the money down is about $14500. Add $14500 to the payoff, $19700(kelly blue book $19000 for just fair cond.), and you get darn close to the sticker. Plus, this allows me to save the payoff over the three years in order to avoid interest. I think it sounds fine, but keep grillin' me so that I feel better about the choice. I think it's all about the time it buys me to save money and avoid the interest, which w/ Honda is horrible, not the lower payments really. I would be very scared if I planned to finance the residual. There's where they could kill you. But I have the same problem with ordering an Si. I'm scared of what they'll give me(in terms of interest rates) when the car gets here and I have to buy it. .
I'm about 6'1". The seat seems too straight up to me. I'm going to drive one again Tuesday with my dad to see if he can fit at 6'2" cuz I really want him to drive it some, too for the reverse spoiling factor. He's 63 and used to old-school power, so it should be really fun to see his reaction. I hope he loves it and convinces me that I'm being a baby over the seats considering the ridiculous smile factor, not to mention the going topless part.
Modified by Robotaz at 10:22 PM 5/27/2006
Modified by Robotaz at 10:32 PM 5/27/2006
http://automobiles.honda.com/t...n=new
Actually, the total of payments, w/ tax, and the money down is about $14500. Add $14500 to the payoff, $19700(kelly blue book $19000 for just fair cond.), and you get darn close to the sticker. Plus, this allows me to save the payoff over the three years in order to avoid interest. I think it sounds fine, but keep grillin' me so that I feel better about the choice. I think it's all about the time it buys me to save money and avoid the interest, which w/ Honda is horrible, not the lower payments really. I would be very scared if I planned to finance the residual. There's where they could kill you. But I have the same problem with ordering an Si. I'm scared of what they'll give me(in terms of interest rates) when the car gets here and I have to buy it. .
I'm about 6'1". The seat seems too straight up to me. I'm going to drive one again Tuesday with my dad to see if he can fit at 6'2" cuz I really want him to drive it some, too for the reverse spoiling factor. He's 63 and used to old-school power, so it should be really fun to see his reaction. I hope he loves it and convinces me that I'm being a baby over the seats considering the ridiculous smile factor, not to mention the going topless part.
Modified by Robotaz at 10:22 PM 5/27/2006
Modified by Robotaz at 10:32 PM 5/27/2006
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Exactly.
The S2000 is not really "blingin"....so no gangsta lean is necessary.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Exactly.
The S2000 is not really "blingin"....so no gangsta lean is necessary.
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Exactly.
The S2000 is not really "blingin"....so no gangsta lean is necessary.
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pretty soon they will be blingin
s2000 modding has been takin a crap, theirs gonna be a lot of rice out there soon.
Exactly.
The S2000 is not really "blingin"....so no gangsta lean is necessary.
</TD></TR></TABLE>pretty soon they will be blingin
s2000 modding has been takin a crap, theirs gonna be a lot of rice out there soon.
just curious, but, have to checked to see if you qualify for that $299.00 / month special rate? I'm sure it's a pretty strict criteria and excellent credit history will play a large role in getting it.
At any rate, I hope it works out for you. That will be one mighty monthly payment when it comes time to finance the remaining $20k for 36 months. Should be a tad over $600.
At any rate, I hope it works out for you. That will be one mighty monthly payment when it comes time to finance the remaining $20k for 36 months. Should be a tad over $600.
I said I was saving the residual so that I don't have to finance. And yes, I have the "Super Preferred" or whatever silly name they give tier 1 credit. I would never buy an S2000 without good credit. For now, I can save a lot of cash for the residual payoff, but I could leave my job at some point in search of another. If that happens, then my payment is only 300 bucks and I still have a sick car. If it doesn't happen, hell i'll have the payoff saved in the first year to year and a half of leasing anyway. Then, I'll save up their $300 payments and pay it all off within a couple of years and at very close to the sticker in total. Keep grillin' me. I'm looking for holes in my own argument. lol
I guess I didn't explain the job uncertainty combined with the very good current income situation really. It makes sense if you can afford to buy the car, but want the freedom of leaving your good job. I really have no other bills as my company imported me to work in a very rural place and pays all my bills and a pretty good wage. Sorry to bore w/ these details, but I think it matters when considering it.
Thnx for the feedback.
I guess I didn't explain the job uncertainty combined with the very good current income situation really. It makes sense if you can afford to buy the car, but want the freedom of leaving your good job. I really have no other bills as my company imported me to work in a very rural place and pays all my bills and a pretty good wage. Sorry to bore w/ these details, but I think it matters when considering it.
Thnx for the feedback.
I'm 6-2 and I can sit in the car just the way I like, close to the wheel, and still be able to brace with my knees.
It wasn't my usual seating position a couple of years ago, but once I started racing my 'stang I had to find a better way to sit to be effective, changed it and have been loving it ever since.
Leasing is a tricky route, chances are they won't rate the car as fair condition(slight body damage, poor interior, etc), if you take care of a car they will rank it as excellent. If they do rank it has fair you ususally have to pay a penalty, because you didn't technically own the car for the 1st 3yrs of its life, basically a contracted rental agreement. Plus you have milage penalties also and modding is out of the question. You roll a lease car in modded and kiss your warrenty good by amoung other things. They are MUCH tougher on a lease because it's thier car.
I would never dream of leasing a car, not just because I drive way more then a lease allows, but just for the fact any damage you will have to pay a penlty. You have it worked out on paper, but again that's an ideal situation. I know for a fact they won't rate the car a fair condition if it is well taken care off, even if you put 100k on the clock.
I would reconsider that route and ask a LOT more questions about penalties.
It wasn't my usual seating position a couple of years ago, but once I started racing my 'stang I had to find a better way to sit to be effective, changed it and have been loving it ever since.
Leasing is a tricky route, chances are they won't rate the car as fair condition(slight body damage, poor interior, etc), if you take care of a car they will rank it as excellent. If they do rank it has fair you ususally have to pay a penalty, because you didn't technically own the car for the 1st 3yrs of its life, basically a contracted rental agreement. Plus you have milage penalties also and modding is out of the question. You roll a lease car in modded and kiss your warrenty good by amoung other things. They are MUCH tougher on a lease because it's thier car.
I would never dream of leasing a car, not just because I drive way more then a lease allows, but just for the fact any damage you will have to pay a penlty. You have it worked out on paper, but again that's an ideal situation. I know for a fact they won't rate the car a fair condition if it is well taken care off, even if you put 100k on the clock.
I would reconsider that route and ask a LOT more questions about penalties.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Robotaz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually, the total of payments, w/ tax, and the money down is about $14500. Add $14500 to the payoff, $19700(kelly blue book $19000 for just fair cond.), and you get darn close to the sticker. Plus, this allows me to save the payoff over the three years in order to avoid interest. I think it sounds fine, but keep grillin' me so that I feel better about the choice. I think it's all about the time it buys me to save money and avoid the interest, which w/ Honda is horrible, not the lower payments really. I would be very scared if I planned to finance the residual. There's where they could kill you. But I have the same problem with ordering an Si. I'm scared of what they'll give me(in terms of interest rates) when the car gets here and I have to buy it.</TD></TR></TABLE>.
Its a good deal, I would take it. You will still make out ok even if you finace the buy out at 7.5% you are still making out.
Its a good deal, I would take it. You will still make out ok even if you finace the buy out at 7.5% you are still making out.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLO S2k »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't forget that Honda of America requires big time coverage for your insurance....something like 1,000,000 so they don't get sued (because they're the owner during your lease).</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the heads up on that one. I'm checking it out.
Thanks for the heads up on that one. I'm checking it out.
"You're gonna love driving it so much, $.20 a mile will add up and rape you."
Please read the whole thread. I will be buying it at the end of the lease. You don't pay mileage if you buy it. lol
i'm 6'3'' and 230 lbs. and i'm plenty comfy...i have an accord too but i've opted to drive the s2k to work every day since i've had it
you just get used to the seating position (that is how you SHOULD be sitting in a car anyways, not reclined)
but something i've noticed about a few friends...fat people have a horrible time fitting in the car...
you just get used to the seating position (that is how you SHOULD be sitting in a car anyways, not reclined)
but something i've noticed about a few friends...fat people have a horrible time fitting in the car...




