So, I just finished soldering up all the wires that are used for the 94-99 gsr cluster swap into the 90-91 CRX. I used these as points of reference...

https://honda-tech.com/zerothre...01807
http://www.angelfire.com/dc/oregonimport/gsr.html

Now, The first time I turned the key to on, everything lit up like it should, CEL turned on, then off (cycling the ecu), fuel pump ran. EVERYTHING but the turn signals worked from what I could tell. I didnt test to see if the ebrake light would turn off or if the seatbelt light would turn off.

I cranked it over, and it ran for 1 second before dying, I checked my kill switches, and tried again. This time I didnt get any power to the gauges at all, so I checked my fuses. One of them was melted and another was blown. Both 10A fuses, one for the alternator solenoid and the other was the switched power to cluster fuse (14 I think). I put a new fuse in each spot, and tried again, this time it immediately blew the alternator solenoid fuse again. Is there some wires in those sites that are not correct? Do I just have a short across some of my wires? Any idea what I did wrong?

TIA!!

 

This is a revised list of wiring that I had to do from that first link because some things were on there wrong...

"1990-91 CRX:
12 pin connector:
1) Blue-tach
2)White/Blue-Volts
3)Black/Yellow-12v power
4)green/Orange-Check Engine
5)yellow/Red-Oil Light
6)Green/Red-E brake
7)Blue/Yellow-Door Light
8)Red-Dash-Dash Lights-(POWER-red/blk on 13p connector)
9)Red/Black-Dash Lights
10)Yellow/Green-Water Temp.
11) red/Blue-High beam
12) Green/Blue-Turn Signal Left

8 Pin connector:
1)Green/Yellow-Right Turn Signal
2)Yellow-12v Power
3)Yellow/white-Fuel Gauge
4)Blue/Red-Driver Seat Light
5)Green/black-Trunk light
6)Not used
7)yellow/red-Speed sensor
8)Black-Ground

94-01 GSR:
13 Pin connector:
1)Blue- Tachometer
2)Green/Orange-Check engine
3)Yellow/Orange-Oil Light
4)Not Used
5)White/blue-Volts
6)not used
7)Yellow/green-Water Temp.
8) black-ground
9) Red/Blue- cruise (not used unless you have it)
10) Yellow-12vPower
11) Not Used
12) Not Used
13) Not Used

16 Pin connecter
1)Green/red- E brake
2)red/Green-High Beam
3)Green/Yellow-Right Turn signal
4)Green/Blue Left turn signal
5)not Used
6)black/yellow-12vPower
7)Red/Black-Power
8)Red-12vpower
9)blue/Red-ABS(not used unless you have it)
10)green-Trunk Light
11)Orange-VSS
12)not used
13)Blue/White-Low Fuel(not used unless you have it)
14)Yellow/white-Fuel Gauge
15)Green/Red-door
16)red/blue-seat belt

 

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Nevermind. For some reason it was blowing fuses, but I went out there, used my voltmeter to check every wire for power, then replaced teh fuses one more time and tried it again, and it all works perfectly. Now I'm wiring up the VSS and I'll be done

 

ok, well that problem is solved, but now I cannot get my speedometer to work. I've tried swapping wires at the plug, tried different wires at teh cluster plug, but I still cant get it to work. Can anyone show me a pic of how the wires on teh plug look and where they go to a 91 LS ECU, and a 94 GSR cluster?

TIA!!

 

Will this swap work on a 91 civic dx hb?

 

HELP!!

 

Dude, when you have a critical failure like a melted wire, don't ever just stuff another fuse in there. That's a really good way to burn up your car. Fix the problem first, then fix the fuse. I can't really help you on the wiring without seeing it. Have you checked and double checked everything? Are your connections good and nothing can short?? What are you using for the VSS? Your cluster needs an electric one, and your car has a cable one. Did you swap that?

 

um, you need an electric VSS for the speedo to work.

my advice to anyone doing a cluster swap, NEVER follow someone elses online instuctions. just trace the back of the cluster and find out what goes where. its not that hard. it takes a little longer, but at least you know everything is 100% right.

ive done a few cluster swaps and always done it this way. no manuals, no help, just tracing the back and figuring it out on my own. every time it works and everything works how it should.

just my .02

 

There wasnt a melted wire. The fuse looked melted on one half. It is a headlight fuse. I had a short in it.

yes, I know that it needs an electric vss. I am using a 94 gsr vss, which is electrical. EVERYTHYING works except for the speedo,so the writeup I went by is pretty good. This is a picture of how I have teh vss wired up. Any insight on why it isnt working would be helpful.

 

swap the signal and power wires on the VSS side. i hear it's different depending on what the vss is from

gnd, pwr, signal.

 

I just tried all 7 combinations you can try at the plug today. None of them worked...use this as a template for what I did...

A-B-C

A is Orange (signal)
B is Black/yellow (power)
C is Black (ground)

I did the following:
ABC
ACB
CAB
BAC
CBA
BCA

The yellow/red wire from pin B16 on the ECU was left untouched by the conversion, so it was obviously left for the vss. I have the orange wire going to pin B11 on the cluster (16P connector). The yellow/red wire is spliced into this. The black/yellow wire is spliced into a solid yellow wire that gets switched power on the cluster. And the Black wire is grounded on the T-Stat housing.

Any insights?

 

maybe the speedo on the cluster is bunk

 

I think the speedo is alright. somehow, with a standard continuity tester (grounded) I could rub the signal wire with the metal probe on the end of it, and with the key ON, it would make the speedo jump. I dont know what this means though....

 

 

why does the diagram you posted show the signal wire with 2 sets of pins and then splitting to the ECU? the signal wire needs to split only to the ECU and the VSS on the cluster. Cuz pin 6 is switched power (blk/yellow) and pin 11 is for the VSS.

 

yea you dont need 2 signal wires at the cluster. only 1.

 

When I drew that, I had it in that configuration because one writeup said that they got it to work that way, but I have since taken it off of that power source... It is split to the ecu and vss wire only now, and I still cant get it to work.

I'm assuming my yellow/red wire behind the cluster is the same yellow/red wire at the ecu (pin b16). Next I"m gonna try splicing it directly on the wire at the ecu clip.

 

The yellow/red wire on your cluster is for the oil pressure light. You should connect the VSS to the orange wire on the cluster, pin 6 on the 16 pin plug. You read something wrong and I think I just saw those incorrect instructions posted elsewhere. Did you repin that plug or something? All I can see is that orange wire is pin 6.

 

I'm gonna check it out real quick. My oil pressure light turns on like it should when you turn the key and turns off wheen the car runs for a second as it always has. I'm gonna check my wiring according to what you said real quick. brb

 

Just looked at it. I have the signal from the VSS to the orange wire (pin 6) on teh 16 pin connector. I have the oil pressure wire to the yellow/red wire that was on the CRX 12 pin connector, and I also have another yellow/red on the CRX 8 pin connector that is supposed to be for the speed sensor to the ecu. Maybe I dont have it on a good switched power source?