Integra line done after '06?
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Integra line done after '06?
I just read that Honda/Acura plans to end production of the Integra/RSX after '06?
They are going to bring out a coupe version of the TSX to fill the gap?
This true?
They are going to bring out a coupe version of the TSX to fill the gap?
This true?
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Re: Integra line done after '06? (Jon D)
Yup, it's true. The RSX isn't an Integra to me though. Totally different car. TSX coupe? Maybe. I think the new Civic will be the new face for a coupe for Honda/Acura for a few years.
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Re: Integra line done after '06? (white rocket)
When I saw the new Civic Type R and no Integra Type R - I thought something was up.
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Re: Integra line done after '06? (Big Phat R)
SCC indicates a RDX will be here. Hondas 1st turbo car. Suposed to be around 240hp. Says its a passenger car, maybe along the lines of a WRX or Evo.
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Most of us are either going to Subaru, or Mitsubishi..
By all means, honda was the **** back in the day in the tunerdays, civics, ludes, tegs,
Now with the rsx gone, nsx gone, s2000 gone.. bah.
They should have kept up with the wants and needs of us north american buyers..
and thats POWEEEER BITCH! chevvy came up with a SC'd Cobalt, Neons came out with a goddamn 270+HP turbo NEON! .. whre was honda?? making hte ub3rcool civic si.. bah
By all means, honda was the **** back in the day in the tunerdays, civics, ludes, tegs,
Now with the rsx gone, nsx gone, s2000 gone.. bah.
They should have kept up with the wants and needs of us north american buyers..
and thats POWEEEER BITCH! chevvy came up with a SC'd Cobalt, Neons came out with a goddamn 270+HP turbo NEON! .. whre was honda?? making hte ub3rcool civic si.. bah
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Re: Integra line done after '06? (itr1244)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr1244 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i couldnt careless .. and it makes no differance to me cuz ITR has been discountinued for 5 years already. RSX dont mean **** to me </TD></TR></TABLE>
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and another thing.. why the expletive didnt they bring over an R version of the rsx..
this is just another reason i hate honda.. i just dont understand them. They WOULD sell like hotcakes.. . id be first to buy one!
this is just another reason i hate honda.. i just dont understand them. They WOULD sell like hotcakes.. . id be first to buy one!
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Re: Integra line done after '06? (Hybrid ITR43)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid ITR43 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SCC indicates a RDX will be here. Hondas 1st turbo car. Suposed to be around 240hp. Says its a passenger car, maybe along the lines of a WRX or Evo. </TD></TR></TABLE>
It was tested up and down Route 29/Route 15 in Virginia. It's a neat little thing, and the motor is good enough to end up in any number of small performance car projects.
It's hard to catch it in a lag.
It was tested up and down Route 29/Route 15 in Virginia. It's a neat little thing, and the motor is good enough to end up in any number of small performance car projects.
It's hard to catch it in a lag.
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It is all about the market.
The replacement for the 4dr integra was the TSX, and look how well it has done. It may not be the hottest car in the tuning world, but for the 21-30yo who wants a well priced midsized luxary car, the TSX fills this role well.
With the new Civic Si performing the way it is, it is cheaper and better than the RSX. The Si is a great car IMHO, and has put honda back into the tuning scene.
With the RSX being phased out, I expect to see a TSX coupe, based on how well the TSX sedan has sold.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid ITR43 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SCC indicates a RDX will be here. Hondas 1st turbo car. Suposed to be around 240hp. Says its a passenger car, maybe along the lines of a WRX or Evo. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The RDX is a crossover SUV, similar in size to the CRV and Rav4, but more luxary, and obviously the advantage of the Turbo K23.
It will be interesting to see if the SH-AWD Turbo powertrain from the RDX ends up in the TSX coupe or sedan. There are plans for an SH-AWD TSX, whether or not it gets the turbo motor, we will wait and see.
The way crash-test and safety standards are, you will not see a sub 2500lb Honda again. Cars are getting bigger, and it is hard to package a sports car into a light chassis without some serious tech, which costs more $.
TOV had an article about the S2000 replacement, supposedly it will be a competator to the 350Z, which has dominated the sub 40k sports car market...and with the expectations of a new Honda supercar to replace the NSX by 2008, I don't think it is fair to say Honda has left the sports car market.
The only mistake I see Honda has made since 2001, was not introducing the DC5R and EP3R into the North American market. Especially the EP3, which has done extremely well overseas, seeing as it is the most popular FWD sports car in Europe, with higher sales than the Golf GTI/R32.
The replacement for the 4dr integra was the TSX, and look how well it has done. It may not be the hottest car in the tuning world, but for the 21-30yo who wants a well priced midsized luxary car, the TSX fills this role well.
With the new Civic Si performing the way it is, it is cheaper and better than the RSX. The Si is a great car IMHO, and has put honda back into the tuning scene.
With the RSX being phased out, I expect to see a TSX coupe, based on how well the TSX sedan has sold.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid ITR43 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SCC indicates a RDX will be here. Hondas 1st turbo car. Suposed to be around 240hp. Says its a passenger car, maybe along the lines of a WRX or Evo. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The RDX is a crossover SUV, similar in size to the CRV and Rav4, but more luxary, and obviously the advantage of the Turbo K23.
It will be interesting to see if the SH-AWD Turbo powertrain from the RDX ends up in the TSX coupe or sedan. There are plans for an SH-AWD TSX, whether or not it gets the turbo motor, we will wait and see.
The way crash-test and safety standards are, you will not see a sub 2500lb Honda again. Cars are getting bigger, and it is hard to package a sports car into a light chassis without some serious tech, which costs more $.
TOV had an article about the S2000 replacement, supposedly it will be a competator to the 350Z, which has dominated the sub 40k sports car market...and with the expectations of a new Honda supercar to replace the NSX by 2008, I don't think it is fair to say Honda has left the sports car market.
The only mistake I see Honda has made since 2001, was not introducing the DC5R and EP3R into the North American market. Especially the EP3, which has done extremely well overseas, seeing as it is the most popular FWD sports car in Europe, with higher sales than the Golf GTI/R32.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc2r01 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and another thing.. why the expletive didnt they bring over an R version of the rsx..!</TD></TR></TABLE>
There was no need of a homologation special to meet racing needs in North America.
The RSX was rigid enough and powerful enough just as it arrived out of the box. In markets where there was a DC5 Type R, there was still no extra bolstering the way there was in the DC2 Type R.
The RSX's lack of a winning reputation and lack of popularity among racers had to do with the suspension design (bump steer and lack of travel), rather than power or chassis rigidity. It's not that the DC5/EP3 design was awful...it's just that the excellence of the DC2 was hard to top w/a vertical McPherson design.
Why the tie rod was attached to the strut is still a mystery to me.
The DC5 Type R was also not a limited production, numbered run like the DC2 Type R.
There was no need of a homologation special to meet racing needs in North America.
The RSX was rigid enough and powerful enough just as it arrived out of the box. In markets where there was a DC5 Type R, there was still no extra bolstering the way there was in the DC2 Type R.
The RSX's lack of a winning reputation and lack of popularity among racers had to do with the suspension design (bump steer and lack of travel), rather than power or chassis rigidity. It's not that the DC5/EP3 design was awful...it's just that the excellence of the DC2 was hard to top w/a vertical McPherson design.
Why the tie rod was attached to the strut is still a mystery to me.
The DC5 Type R was also not a limited production, numbered run like the DC2 Type R.
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Re: Integra line done after '06? (Big Phat R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Phat R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BPR - who hopes the next NSX doesn't suck</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here's hoping :grits teeth:
Before we know it the 2002 NSX will be affordable
. Wait, am I drunk again? 
Here's hoping :grits teeth:
Before we know it the 2002 NSX will be affordable
. Wait, am I drunk again?
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It was inevitable for Honda to take a little dip. I think 2000 was their best year - they had the EM1 Si (the best Si IMO), the DC2 GS-R and Type-R, S2000, and the NSX.
Honda will eventually dominate the automotive landscape again as we start to think of cars a little differently. Honda has a habit of being ahead of the curve, and sometimes it leads them to get rid of popular cars when enthusiast demand is still strong.
It sucks...but I'd rather they did that than hold on too long to an outdated formula, as GM and Ford have done.
Honda will eventually dominate the automotive landscape again as we start to think of cars a little differently. Honda has a habit of being ahead of the curve, and sometimes it leads them to get rid of popular cars when enthusiast demand is still strong.
It sucks...but I'd rather they did that than hold on too long to an outdated formula, as GM and Ford have done.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It was inevitable for Honda to take a little dip. I think 2000 was their best year - they had the EM1 Si (the best Si IMO), the DC2 GS-R and Type-R, S2000, and the NSX.
Honda will eventually dominate the automotive landscape again as we start to think of cars a little differently. Honda has a habit of being ahead of the curve, and sometimes it leads them to get rid of popular cars when enthusiast demand is still strong.
It sucks...but I'd rather they did that than hold on too long to an outdated formula, as GM and Ford have done.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree with most of this, except with the EM1 being the best SI, the '06 absolutely dominates it, and I myself am an EM1 owner.
Honda will eventually dominate the automotive landscape again as we start to think of cars a little differently. Honda has a habit of being ahead of the curve, and sometimes it leads them to get rid of popular cars when enthusiast demand is still strong.
It sucks...but I'd rather they did that than hold on too long to an outdated formula, as GM and Ford have done.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree with most of this, except with the EM1 being the best SI, the '06 absolutely dominates it, and I myself am an EM1 owner.
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It was a big influencing factor when I bought my car. I chose the RSX over the new GTI, for 2 reasons.
1. Bigger discount was available on the RSX since dealers were looking to "unload" being that the car is on it's way out, saved roughly $5K over a comparably equipped GTI.
2. I knew the RSX would be free of the glitches the first year GTI is already plagued with.
1. Bigger discount was available on the RSX since dealers were looking to "unload" being that the car is on it's way out, saved roughly $5K over a comparably equipped GTI.
2. I knew the RSX would be free of the glitches the first year GTI is already plagued with.
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nothing you can really do, you can bicker and whine all you want about what honda did or is doing, but its not like your one voice will do anything, just let it be. sad to say but let it be. let them do what they want to do and what there R&D belives they should do. thats why they hire these r&d's fro right?
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Re: Integra line done after '06? (Hybrid ITR43)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid ITR43 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hondas 1st turbo car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Honda's first turbo car was the Honda City Turbo in 1982.
Honda's first turbo car was the Honda City Turbo in 1982.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda's first turbo car was the Honda City Turbo in 1982.</TD></TR></TABLE>
true that
true that
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mtpktz. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I agree with most of this, except with the EM1 being the best SI, the '06 absolutely dominates it, and I myself am an EM1 owner.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ross does not want to admit the B motor's day is done or that you could possibly get a McPherson car to handle well.
I agree with most of this, except with the EM1 being the best SI, the '06 absolutely dominates it, and I myself am an EM1 owner.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ross does not want to admit the B motor's day is done or that you could possibly get a McPherson car to handle well.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ross does not want to admit the B motor's day is done or that you could possibly get a McPherson car to handle well. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, and I'd also rather pay $16,000 for a Civic Si than $25K or whatever it is they are asking for them now.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes, and I'd also rather pay $16,000 for a Civic Si than $25K or whatever it is they are asking for them now.
